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Cnaiur posted 30 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnaiur by Curethan, Didact

Now, now.
Cnaiur appears to be the most overlooked character on these forums. It's surprising to me to see that there is speculation that TTT was his "swazond-song"(hehe).
In my estimationhe gets almost as much narrative devoted to him as Akka, which in itself should tell you something. His character is one to which Scott has devoted a lot of thought to creating, because his actions require a convoluted and deep study to understand. Although he is responsible for many horrid acts, these are largely premeditated by his "darkness that comes before" and his attempts to reconcile his personality to it, giving rise to his insanity. However, of all the characters in the entire series, he is also one of the few who performs/attempts selfless acts to aid others, although he refuses to aknowledge them. Furthermore his role saving Kellhus in the circumfixion underpins his role as a key device in the series.
His relationship to both the consult and Kellhus is doubly interesting as he is "outside" their control, yet used/using both.
And as for him being too old for the next volume, the glossary clearly states the inchoroi's ability to grant "immortality". view post

Cnaiur posted 31 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnaiur by Curethan, Didact

I believe that all of the main characters will return. Throughout the three books, the three main povs have followed the focal point of Kellhus, who is never properly defined as a character, but remains a fasinating plot device. He is the crucible through which they have come to be the characters required for the events of the major story arc, imo.
Cnair is the most interesting of these characters because he stands closest to Kellhus' id and is yet his most adverserial. After all from Kellhus' admittedly diminutive emotional perspective, (which is never enlarged upon) he has always told truth.
And the "miracle" of the circumfixion was dependant on Cnaiur's intervention, I seem to remember Kelhus ruminating that the reigns had slipped his fingers at that point.
Several times Kellhus says, "I should have killed him..." and yet he does not... I think that Cnaiur has become Kellhus' "proof", hehe. view post

Books that have induced a mindfuck posted 31 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionBooks that have induced a mindfuck by Curethan, Didact

Alright people.
Just read Aylett, Steve.
Slaughtermatic, Shamanspace, Crime Studio.

The day they get optioned for movies will be the day that I realize I have died and gone to Mindfuck Heaven. view post

Needing some good suggestions. posted 31 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionNeeding some good suggestions. by Curethan, Didact

Some good mentions above, so I won't repeat any. Here I some other books I would recomend to anybody.
Read Jeff Vandermeer or Steph Swainston if you enjoy fantasy/lit style.
Steve Aylett's "Slaughtermatic" if you enjoy wicked prose and a good laugh.
Greg Egan has some great SF shorts, and "Quarantine" is great.
If you want an easy read, and want to catch up on one of the all time fantasy pioneers, get into Micheal Moorcock's "Eternal Champion" series.
You think RJ got a lot of volumes in the WoT series.... view post

Dan Brown posted 31 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionDan Brown by Curethan, Didact

I can understand a lot of the frustrations that some people hold regarding Dan Brown's books. When something is so popular and you know there are many, more worthy books that people should appreciate...
I myself haven't read it, the story does not appeal to me because I am an Aetheist and have little interest in the story of the new Testament. That doesn't stop me from understanding it's broad appeal; those that both dislike and like the catholic church will find this an interesting notion, the concept of conspiries within ancient clerical societies that hearken back to the very scriptures all Christians revere...
Doesn't make it a work of art though.
I did read Harry Potter, and they were a cracking good read. Sure, I was reading the Illiad, LOTR and Moorcock when I was a kid, but understand the broad appeal of this series too.
I'm just happy that people are still buying books to be honest!
After all, you have to read a lot of books before you develop a proper critical language. Then you can tell after the first 50 pages whether or not you will enjoy it. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post

DELETED posted 31 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtDELETED by Curethan, Didact

To my mind, there is a simple answer. Kellhus is being both recognized as the head the thousand temples and as he of state above all the nations of the three seas .
It's worth noting that as yet, he is only recognized by about half of the powerbrokers of the three seas (not everyone attended the holy war i think, and only Maithenet and the Mandate had showed up at the end of TTT). Admittedly Kelhus has control of the most powerful army and religious and political figures, but I think we can understand why we will skip so many years before Aspect Emperor.
The term aspect is certainly interesting and undoubtedly important. To me it suggests that Kellhus is possessed by the God, or one of his 1000 aspects as seen by Inrithism and is therefore an agent of God in history. (ref the Glossary)
TTT seems to suggest that Cnaiur is possesed by an &quot;God&quot; or &quot;demon&quot; in a similar way, either that or he is merely insane...
I got the feeling that the Gods, whatever their true nature have been moving through all the major characters, that each is on the way to becoming &quot;aspected&quot; somehow.
Prob'ly way off the mark though, but its been nagging at the back of my mind. view post

Vogon Poetry posted 31 March 2006 in Member Written WorksVogon Poetry by Curethan, Didact

When I sit down to do some writing, the first half to full hour can be an agony as I strive to find my pace and linguistic rythym for the piece I am going to work on. Perhaps this is because I only do so sporadiacly - however.
I find it theraputic and cleansing to first disgorge some inane and absurd poetry or go blah on the web.
This way I'm doing both.
Enjoy.... or not.

The Night of the Pale Mourning

The night bled into the horizon as the sun fled.
Hens cackled like bereaved chickens,
The fox removed his headphones.
And the night continued to paint the sky the colour of sorrow.

The mountains sank to the plain,
Cows removed their palatoons,
And danced hidden amongst the shadows,
Darkness encompassed the eyes of the world.

All was cosseted in the blanket of night,
Playful rocks winked as I slept,
I felt their eyelashes stir the breeze,
The stars turned their light inward to leave the sky unbreached.

The dark enslaved the moon with a headsock of velvet,
People of the world were enlightened
By the vilisimnitude of light denied,
Peace rained down like a sightless glass.

With the sound of a million motionless rocks,
The pain of a butterfly peaked,
As it withstood the gale of my sigh,
And the darkness broke into the endless crash of morning. view post

Seswatha's dreams. posted 02 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSeswatha's dreams. by Curethan, Didact

I am curoius as to what people think about the dreams of the Mandate Schoolmen. They seem to me to come from &quot;outside&quot; the world, and towards the end of TTT, it becomes evident that their content is not immutable, at least to Akka. I think in WP he talks about the dreams &quot;changing&quot; too. If this is the case, what relevance does it hold?

The Celomomian prophecies are a key point regarding the 2nd apocalypse, but there is no other evidence of precognitive magic throughout the series.

Are the dreams in fact proof of the influence of some of the thousand gods (whatever their true nature) inside the world? view post

The No-God posted 02 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Curethan, Didact

Hmm, I have a theory about the nature of the no-god. I think he may be &quot;manufactured&quot; through the sythesis of the Scylvendi's &quot;dead god&quot;.

The Consult are, after all, not inchoroi to my interperation. They are humans and non-men who allied with them, and have since become synthese, products of the Tekne.

The No-god is sealed by choroi for a good reason to my mind. He is sealed inside the world of the three seas - dead on the &quot;outside&quot;. This would explain why he cannot know his nature. He would be a neccesary tool for sealing the world from outside imo, a way to suck all the souls of the world up, a diversion from the normal flow of the cycle of souls.

Hey, and remember that the chorae are called the &quot;tears of god&quot;, yet
they originate from the consult. view post

The No-God posted 03 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Curethan, Didact

Hey, thanks for the feedback guys. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Very interesting points there, obv. I'm not the first to detect a link between the no-god and the dead god of the Scylvendi.

I'll try and clarify the cycle of souls thing, EE.

It seems to me that the passage of (human) souls from Earwa is determined by the gods to which they pay homage (do a good job worshiping in their chsen way, get a ticket to one of their pocket realities in the afterlife). For it to be a cycle, souls must obviously come the other way too. Thus, souls' passage from the world to the &quot;outside&quot; and vice versa must in some way be linked to the gods.

Remembering that the Scylvendi were originally one of the five tribes of men and were not allied to the consult before the summoning of
Mog-pharau, the fact that they worshipped only one god (I think he was the god of war too?) suggests that he was quite a major diety.

Perhaps by summoning him completely into the world (a more powerful version of summoning, and a good reason that such practices would lead to damnation), the Inchoroi were able to kind of subvert and short circuit the link that he originally played in the human cycle of souls.

Thus, instead of passing into the outside or inhabiting the bodies of the babies for which they were destined on the way into the world, the souls were drawn to him ... creating a kind of whirldwind that constanly surrounded him even? This would make the Consult's aim of sealing the world off from the outside almost complete, they could've just sat in the Incu-Holinais and waited for everyone to die of old age, I guess...
His carapace would be some kind of prison or casing for a pocket dimension that binds him.

Well, it kinda makes sense to me...

Oh yeah, and the only kind of diety that the Consult would venerate would be their instrument of liberation from damnation, he doesn't need to serve any other purpose to be the closest thing they would ever get to regarding as &quot;holy&quot;. view post

Steve Aylett! posted 03 April 2006 in Literature DiscussionSteve Aylett! by Curethan, Didact

Anyone here ever read any Steve Aylett?
I know it ain't fantasy, but it is damn good stuff. (And worth 100 cool points in my eyes <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> )
Just beware, about half his books are almost inpenetrable, but if you appreciate wit and prose that burns your retinas, give it a go.
Start with Slaughtermatic, Shamanspace, The Crime Studio and Bigot Hall. view post

The No-God posted 03 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Curethan, Didact

Perhaps it is the act of him absorbing, then perhaps using or transforming the nascent souls that results in the the stillborn children. Thus the end justifies the means.

Earlier, when I described the dead-god as manufactured, I meant to imply that my impression of the synthese led me to think that the Inchoroi's creations were synthesised from fauna native to Earwa and the Tekne. When they made first contact with the non-men they had no mouths with which to communicate, but they quickly progressed to the point where they could manipulate the &quot;genetics&quot; of the non-men to make them nigh immortal with the Tekne, so it stands to reason that many of their creations would be pervsions of creatures they found on Earwa - a synthesis of the Tekne and the Onta, maybe.

It seems that the summoning of the No-god etc happened after they had been given knowledge of the Gnosis by the renegade school... (Interesting that they could make chorae before that though.) view post

Bad, bad book. BAAAD. posted 03 April 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionBad, bad book. BAAAD. by Curethan, Didact

Terry Goodkind.
Robert Adams (never to be confused with Adam Roberts).
P-tooie. view post

The No-God posted 04 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Curethan, Didact

Oh. I think that new births are a very important thing for the Inchoroi and the consult to stop. Remember they used the womb plague as a very effective means of wiping out the non-men. (At that time humans were seen as little more than beasts and thus escaped attention)

Reducing the number of souls (or total extermination) on the plane and stopping the influx of new/re-incarnated souls would seem to be key to their plan to &quot;seal off&quot; the outside.

They may be immune to ageing, but that does not stop them being killed or subject to the influence of &quot;outside powers&quot; (I too baulk at designating them &quot;gods&quot; in the classic sense) and thus succumbing to damnation.

Although I'd have to say damnation must be a pretty horrible fate for the consult to fear it so.

Also, I'm not sure that Kellhus felt that the Dunyain would ally with the consult, wasn't he specifically saying that Moenghus would, and that was why he had to kill him? view post

Seswatha's dreams. posted 04 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSeswatha's dreams. by Curethan, Didact

Hmm. Could be that Kellhus is manipulating the dreams. He has mastered the gnosis by that point...

As for Akka becoming more like Seswatha, I'd don't think so.
Seswatha seemed to be highly manipulative and focused on defeating the consult only. As a prodigy from an early age he experienced none of the tribulations that Akka has, and had a supreme sense of conviction and self belief.

I can hardly imagine two less similar characters to be honest.
However they are similar in a number of situational ways, and Esmenet does bang on about their similarities, so perhaps it's just my interperetation of their characters. view post

Seswatha's dreams. posted 04 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSeswatha's dreams. by Curethan, Didact

The Dreams were changing before Kellhus mastered the Gnosis

I thought that was the case, it was just that I could only be sure of it during the last dream described in TTT. If you could elaborate?

Kellhus seems (to me) to be more Seswatha's historical equivilent as Seswatha mainly seemed to work through others also ... Celomas, his son, Anaxophus etc. - a motivator as much as an active participant.
(Why couldn't he wield the Heron Spear btw? It seems almost as if he couldn't even touch it...)

I'd like to hear others' reasons for believing that Akka and Seswatha are so similar, perhaps I'm missing something. view post

Sex posted 04 April 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionSex by Curethan, Didact

I am male. No, wait ... boy. No, no ... girly-man. Hehe.

I tend to think that the covers of the (paperback) books would not be appealing to females in general. Black, brooding man faces and a blurb that rattles on about dominating men and apocolyptic happenings...
You get enough of that in RL.

After all, the content of the books is ipso facto, and I believe the strength of the writing and the entangling of philosophy and fantasy overides any gender bias that would detract from a female's perspective, imo. The atrococities described within, whilst wearying, are neither gratuitous nor suggestive of Scott having any morbid fascination, merely a matter of fact occurence of the setting and culture. No worse than delving into historical fact really.

Overall, I wouldn't accuse any of the POV's in PON to be repulsive to women in general, and Esmenet is a fascinating portrayal of strong femininity in a culture that places little value on women. (Certainly turns the &quot;whore with a heart of gold&quot; stereotype on it's head to my mind). view post

The No-God posted 04 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Curethan, Didact

Yah, I believe Khellus said that Moenghus had commited acts as he travelled the three seas that would damn him , and that was why he would ultimately ally with the consult.

Also, I was reading the glossary and was struck by a phrase there-in, namely &quot;(the) soul that encounters him passes no further&quot;. It references the battle plain of Mengedea where the No-god was destroyed.
And the Scylvendi swazond are &quot;believed by some to be the markers of stolen strength&quot;. Whether or not these things are relevant to the nature of the No-god is debatable, but I it might be part of where I get my crazy theories.
Hmmm view post

The No-God posted 05 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Curethan, Didact

Obviously we don't have enough information, that's what makes speculating on these forums fun. We sharpen our perceptions of the ideas presented in the novels on each other's views and gain further enjoyment from the story thereby. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> (gosh this thread is rather nebulous really)

A couple of points (as I see them);
The Dunyain do not lie. As conditioned ones, they are taught to deal only in empirical truths as defined by their teachers. The only time Kelhus tells a bald faced lie throught the series is when he misrepresents himself as a prince. Even then, the lie was not his, and I recall him being somewhat suprised at the concept and it's efficiency. The truth is their lever for manipulation and a part of their conditioning. Of course the truth differs to each person, however, the Dunyain's use of the logos apparently alows them to cut to the barest truth. The logos itself is very interesting, being defined as that which allows humans to strive against the darkness that comes before, implying that those that are self-aware (note that the No-god does not seem to be) have some latitude of moving whithin the strictures of their predetermined circumstance and personality. Dunyain &quot;conditioning&quot; focuses on aprehending and manipulting the truth of these factors.

So lying is not seen as part of the logos, and would be seen as useless.
My understanding of the outside etc is that it is the unknowable part of the universe. Earwa itself is a part of the outside, but is largely self contained in the way that it's inhabitants percieve it. (Remember the &quot;pocket realms&quot; of the gods.) It could be likened to a habitat at a zoo in some ways (a very wobbly analogy), the creatures within are only dimly aware of the greater world outside - which itself can have a large effect on them. The different faiths in the three seas have vastly seperate views of the outside, yet they both find vindication in their views. The struggle between Inrithism and Fanimry could well reach beyond the manipulations of the Dunyain at large. Obviously, one united faith is required to oppose the inimical machinations of the Consult and the No-god, who are definately the opposite of the denizens of the outside and the logos.

Sorcery is the act of making the world conform to language, and language is also the very root of the logos, that which enables self awareness and understanding what has gone before and what may be.

Although the Dunyain have no understanding of sorcery and repudiate its efficiacy - remember that it's power lies in analogies, abstractions, paradox and the duality of thought and speech. All quite useless in dealing with the logos, which demands clarity, truth and certainty. Only when one must struggle to deal with lies, misunderstanding and one's own unreasonable emotions do such things become necasary. The Psukhe is very interesting, being related to emotion rather than intellect. The duality of these two concepts within the souls of men is, imo, paramount to many of the concepts that Scott is exploring through this series (and one of the primary concerns of philosophy). The Logos is devoted to mastery through intellect, but lacks direction without the motivation of emotion.

The reality of demons in the narative leads me to believe that the gods are similar entities, only more powerful, able to meddle to some extent in the Earwa from without. As to their nature, I would imagine that it would in some ways be shaped by the will of men. I would speculate that they are forces shaped by memes, souls can enter and leave Earwa, and they are the connection to gods and the outside.

Whew, I wonder if any of that makes sense. Or if it's on-topic. view post

Seswatha's dreams. posted 05 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSeswatha's dreams. by Curethan, Didact

I agree that Achamian is more than he thinks he is (Aren't we all...)
And Seswatha's dreams would certainly affect your personality (They're nearly as bad as some of mine, hehe)

I feel that Achamian has certainly changed throughout the series, but I cannot see him in anything like what Seswatha was during the first apocalypse. He was the constant, implacable foe of the Consult rousing nations and armies against them, at the head of every victory and calamity that befel the Norasai. Possesing unrivaled knowledge of the gnosis and the lore of the non-men, he certainly seemed the Kahiht of the apocalypse to me. Achamian on the other hand has, at the end of TTT, rejected Kellhus, the Mandate, Esmenet and everything that made him himself, becoming an outcast with no purpose. The way I see it he has three options ... return to Kellhus and kneel (probable, Kellhus isn't wrong much), join with the consult (highly unlikely) or go and live as a hermit and fight the consult on his own (not very conducive to the storyline).

I guess that in the way that Esmenet sees the parallel between Achamian and Seswatha I can agree though. (Recalling that Esmenet's perception of Seswatha is drawn from the Sagas) Both Achamian and Seswatha suffer greatly in their struggle against the consult and neither recieve aknowledgment or reward for their pain and loss. view post

The Amoral Khellus posted 06 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Amoral Khellus by Curethan, Didact

I agree.

And I find it interesting that it is these emotions that provide impetus. I mean, it's all very well to be Dunyain and strive to create a &quot;self moving soul&quot; ... but what the hell would one do? The process of selection and conditioning seems devoted to removing all emotional responses and focusing on logic and intellect but what the heck does someone with no emotion want? Nothing, as emotions are born of the physical body's innate needs (hunger, a mate, mastery over the environment etc)

I would speculate that the Dunyain's ultimate descendant would abandon it's body and achieve assescion to the outside, rendering it's mastery over the physical world an empty and trivial thing. But then, I'm kinda in love with irony.

Kellhus is aware of the fundamental shift in his character and I think it is pivotal in the overall story arc. view post

Now listening to... posted 06 April 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow listening to... by Curethan, Didact

System of a Down.
Judas Priest.
Queens of the Stone Age.
*Randomize - Wig out* view post

First Word that Comes to Mind posted 06 April 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Curethan, Didact

day view post

Words You Like or Don't Like posted 06 April 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionWords You Like or Don't Like by Curethan, Didact


It is a stoopid word with four constanants in a row. What's not to like? view post

Kellhus, his divinity, and his &quot;good guy&quot; status. posted 11 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKellhus, his divinity, and his &quot;good guy&quot; status. by Curethan, Didact

Haha. I like the thought of Kellhus as evil, but I would like someone to present one &quot;evil&quot; act the guy has performed....
Sure, he manipulates people, but their choices remain their own. And the method of his manipulation is certainly not evil. Possesing an encyclopediac knowledge of the scars of the soul and your current emotional state, he knows your possible answers and simply choses the right question. When I manipulate my child in a similar fashion in order to compel him to go to bed or perform a chore, am I too being evil?

Well, I guess it is an aspect of human nature to resent those more powerful/intelligent than oneself, and to pity those less capable than ourselves.

I would refer to Frederik Nietsche (Beyond Good and Evil) for an insight into the concept of the superman as represented by the Dunyain in PON. view post

Kellhus, his divinity, and his &quot;good guy&quot; status. posted 13 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKellhus, his divinity, and his &quot;good guy&quot; status. by Curethan, Didact

One who argues his point well manipulates.
Once your point of view, or perception of things has been changed by an argument, you still command your actions thereafter. If you sacrifice your life without cause because I have manipulted you (without lying, as Kellhus does) that is not my moral choice, but yours. Doesn't make me evil - makes you a victim of Darwinism in my book. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

Comunication is nothing but manipulation in this sense of the word; to my mind, falsehood and deception are the root of the fear and evil that can arise from it. As I have previously stated, Kellhus never fabricates lies himself, and rarely dresses the truth to merely to suit his aims. The feelings of deception and betrayal that beset the characters who have dealt with him arise because they have not asked the right questions -either of themselves or him.

Morality is a highly personal thing, and is defined through your life experiences and perceptions, as is one's concept of good and evil.

Kellhus lacks a personal veiw of good and evil as a Dunyain (they understand the way emotions work in order to master them, but knowing something intellectualy is completely different to experiencing it), as a human he still posseses a normal emotional spectrum. Prevoius posts on this forum have done a great job of charting his devolpment and recognition of this. One that I think has been overlooked is his recognition of Conphas as a psychopath, which Khellus certainly is not.

He may yet don a black hat and &quot;turn to the dark side&quot; (snigger). But I think he would be a victim of hubris rather than selfishness in that case. I simply cannot see someone conditioned as a Dunyain becoming a victim of their appetities and hatred. view post

the decapitating adventures of the merry chainswhore posted 13 April 2006 in Member Written Worksthe decapitating adventures of the merry chainswhore by Curethan, Didact

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Ace, bravo, wunderbar.
I felt a goodly amount of cartharsis reading that. Haha, Red Durst - shoulda poked out his piggy little blue eyes to see what's really behind 'em.

Ha - mascot 'eh, shredding it onstage with a chainsaw - nice!

Encore! view post

Water posted 13 April 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWater by Curethan, Didact

Hmm. I tend to think of the difference between the two types of magic this way.
Standard sorcery as practiced by the schoolmen is constructed through artifice (using their intellect and ancient forms to wield the power, that originates from outside - thus &quot;source-ery&quot;), whereas the Cishuarim basicaly &quot;channel&quot; the power directly via their emotive connectection with their god/ancestors.
The term water is especially relevent in this case, as it suggests power without form. Water is the most destructive element in the world. Beats fire hands down - and carves the very shape of mountains and continents. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> view post

if you were in his shoes... posted 14 April 2006 in The Thousandfold Thoughtif you were in his shoes... by Curethan, Didact

Hmm, personally, I'd go get wasted for a couple of years, wait for the pain to abate and get over it. Cutting yourself off from your past is always fun too, it allows you to make new friends and reinvent yourself. Revenge is never worth the bother.
Moping around and casting yourself as the wronged party just bores everyone (including yourself eventually). Poor little Akka... he could just relocate to a Stephen Donaldson novel. (Okay, that's a bit harsh <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> ) view post

Words You Like or Don't Like posted 14 April 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionWords You Like or Don't Like by Curethan, Didact


Hate that. My father used it as a pet name for me, then one day I looked up the etymology behind it ... now I worry about repressed memories.
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