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posts by Coldsnap Commoner | joined 25 Apr 2007 | 2

Breaker of Horses and Men posted 26 Apr 2007, 22:04 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]Breaker of Horses and Men by Coldsnap, Commoner

As brilliant as the plot is, and I do truly mean that: the Dunyain phiolosophy, the clash of religions, Kellhus and Moengus, Achamian and Sesthwana... the historical clash between the ancient kingdoms and the Inchoroi, sranc, scylvendi and the No-god... MY FAVORITE AND MOST RESPECTED CHARACTER IS CNAUIR. Who is with me here? I see him underestimated here and there in these threads because he was world-born or not a sorceror, or one person implied he was just a product of having been used by Moenghus... But let's not forget that he impressed Kellhus more than anyone else. I would wager he was the greatest mortal warrior to walk the earth, brilliant strategist, massive in all contexts... larger than life! His descriptions throughout the novels are fantastic, his penetration of all Kellhus tries! His one-liners are the best! Better than all the ajencis and dunyain philosophies. He is brutual and horrifying, and yet my favorite part of all the novels. My god, sometimes i reread how much he stands apart from even the Scylvendi as Most-violent of all Men! He beats sarcellus in one on one battle, he kills hundreds in the battle of Kiyuth, he give Kellhus pause in their first and only fight... and he represents, to me, a pure and brilliant anti-thesis to some of the concepts that the world seems to be run on: Dunyain perception and control, Sorcery, Religion, Inchoroi.... And so that is all I have to say as my first post! In a world so complex, full of insanely powerful creatures, sorceres, people.... Cnauir was by far my most favorite! view post

posted 26 Apr 2007, 22:04 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWas Cnauir gay? by Coldsnap, Commoner

Of course he's homosexual, and or course it matters!!! It doesn't take away from him, it adds... but come on, you'd have to be insane not to see his homosexuality as a integral part to his story! I mean, i may have read it wrong, but i think he even rapes Conphas! Be careful though not to confuse homosexuality with how it appears in our culture... i mean, we are talking about an ancient, medieval and frankly fictional fantasy culture! And he's a massive, unbeatable barbarian! It doesn't manifest in a way that we would understand, but he is homosexual. And it never took away from the story, it only added! That's just my opinion, but i was never insulted by the idea... if anything, i applauded the courage of Bakker to take it there! But it is a major part of his struggle against his people, against himself... and the beauty is how Bakker realistically never lets him address with words or some unrealistic monlogue of acceptance... he is the breaker of horses and men, most violent, and Bakker lets him be homosexual in a breath-taking way... grim, silent, brooding... a storm of violence waiting to be unleashed, and chasing Moenghus through the whole world to deal with the betrayal, the heart break, and the classic belief of a homosexual barbarian in denial: that a someone MADE him this way and must pay for it! Someone else is responsible for his lack of respect among the clans, for his feeling of loss and hollowness, for his feeling of inadequacies... and his compensation is to become so violent, so horrifying, with so many wives, and with the taking of serwe as a sexual prize... and all of it is to no avail, because he cannot deny what he is. He can only deny the world the chance to see it. view post


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