a friend of mine theorized that kellhus took esmenet into his bed specifically because she appears to be the most cerebral woman he met in the three seas. if the dunyain are interested in breeding for cerebral purposes then she would be a better choice than anything else offered. of course there is the thought of: own esmenet = own achamian = get the gnosis. and what better way to gain ownership of emsi than to make her pregnant... but then why maintain your marriage twenty years later? we all know loyalty isn't one of kellhus' strong suits.[/quote:2qw5q934]

but for all khellus' dunyain-ness, he does appear to develop feelings for esminet later on in the third book, as he begins to see himself as a prophet. perhaps these feelings could turn into love?
in which case there would definatley be more that two children view post

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The Aspect-Emperor posted 28 March 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed] ⟩ The Aspect-Emperor by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

Quote: "Madness":129mmws9

Now at the end of The Thousandfold Thought, again, I'm entirely convinced that Cû'jara Cinmoi has plans for the Dûnyain. As I've iterated before, once again I think in this very deleted post, I do not think that Kellhus is the most able or most intelligent Dûnyain from among them.[/quote:129mmws9]

allthough Kellhus may not be the most able-minded/bodied of the dunyain, we must take into account that he is, in fact, an anasurimbor. even if this did not provide him with any inborn ablility to become a leader of men, the surname itself would put him at a higher veiw point than other dunyain as far as world-born men are concerned.

also we must take into account that khellus may not be the only anasurimbor amoung the dunyain. with a small number of people interbreeding for two thousand years it is neither reasonable nor plauseable that kellhus and moengus are the only two living bearers of that surname.

how or if this would tie into the story is niot what im getting at i guess as i am merley expressing my opinion view post

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inrau posted 28 March 2007 in The Darkness That Comes Before ⟩ inrau by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

in my first reading and every other after that i have never been able to discern exactly what inrau discovered about the shira before he died

am i missing something or do we not know? view post

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Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 28 March 2007 in Author Q & A ⟩ Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

Quote: "Buckethead":34myvajk

I read this passage the same way i have approached the haloed hands issue... that perhaps kellhus can visually decieve people into seeing what they want to see the same way a professional hypnotist or magician can use illusion. Our brains really do filter the information that our eyes recieve, this is fact. my first year at art school in visual perception our teacher put a yellow square against a white wall, we concentrated on it for one minute and when it was removed there was the illusion of a purple square on the wall. why? because the human brain always seeks balance and orginization. your brain attempts to balance the vibrant yellow with it's complimentary colour.
I tend to think that kellhus manages this both through slight of hand and building the expectation of the supernatural through his words and actions. this may explain why serwe sees haloes around the hands of the skin spy. Her brain is projecting those haloes in response to trying to make sense of the unbelievable and fantasmagorical actions and speech of kellhus...
just a thought.

also, ambiguity in moderation can make a good story great. most of the story is quite clear. i think scott uses ambiguous amd creative writing to his benefit, especially with the amount of philosophy entrenched in the book... i find it refreshing to read fantasy that i can reread, think about and discus at length. too much clarification can make something boring the same way ambiguity can confuse.[/quote:34myvajk]

is it at all impossible that kellhus could actually be a prophet? i mean this would go entierly against what he is but at the same time it would explain his expanding morality view post

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Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 29 March 2007 in Author Q & A ⟩ Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i though he was shouting to the sky not to apologize for lying to them about what he said nor anything he did, but who he said he was. at first, he lied about his class and status. then, before the circumfixion, he still refered to himself as a prophet even though he did not yet beleive it himself. i dont think he was reffering to the sermons, but the fatc that they still have yet to learn of his dunyain heratige view post

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Questions that haunt me after just reading TTT. posted 29 March 2007 in The Thousandfold Thought ⟩ Questions that haunt me after just reading TTT. by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i think cnair killed moengus simply to tell himself he had done it. the entirty of his life post-mo was bent on finding and killing mo, and at some point during the holy war he seemed to latch on to the fact that killing mo was the only way to ease his growing madness. the, when finally confronted by mo, he realizes that yes, he is still in love w/ mo, but at the same time he must quell the madness in his heart. then after killing him, he discovers that not only has the madness not lifted, but he is without the man he loved, and cries "why did you leave me" because there is no one who he feels can ease the pain within him view post

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OK, this is stupid, but... posted 29 March 2007 in Off-Topic Discussion ⟩ OK, this is stupid, but... by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

what do the runes represent? i mean in a linguistic sense anyway. is it some form of script from the book or something different entirely? view post

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Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 29 March 2007 in Author Q & A ⟩ Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

yet at the same time he lead those closest to him to beleive very strongly.
while teaching esminet to read, he scraped out a passage from the tusk. when she protested, he replied "just who, exactly do you think i am?" view post

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Ian Irvine posted 29 March 2007 in Literature Discussion ⟩ Ian Irvine by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

ive read the first of the veiw from the mirror and found it very entertaining and suprisingly realistic. no epic battles, no sword waving or magic fireball launching around. just (almost) normal ppl trying to get through hard times view post

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Avatar posted 29 March 2007 in Off-Topic Discussion ⟩ Avatar by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

its a good show, its just too family-oriented for my taste view post

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Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 29 March 2007 in Author Q & A ⟩ Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i just think its him coming more to turns with his morality. whether or not he is communing with god, i think he beleives that he is shouting to him.he is unused to greif or regret and doesnt know how else to respond view post

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Avatar posted 29 March 2007 in Off-Topic Discussion ⟩ Avatar by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

that is a good point. i just think the dialogue and action scenes are too toned down. but the animation and storyline are incredible view post

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"Murderous Children" posted 29 March 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed] ⟩ "Murderous Children" by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

im not so sure that the desire for injury comes from the inchori possesion but her own internal bitterness. she is angry at the world for the way it was toward her, and she has subconcious desires for revenge view post

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Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 29 March 2007 in Author Q & A ⟩ Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i always thought that the tft was more of an expansion of the probability trance. i think its the ability to grasp, control, and predict things outside the aspect of cause and effect using the outside rather than excluding it. so through the tft he is not seeing gods will but trying to find a way to see it.

and i do beleive he is gaining morality. during the circumfixion he has a massive internal struggle in which he mourns serwes' death but regrets being a part of it. afterwards, he invisions the no god in his dreams, then, taking everything into account, he weeps. although he doesnt understand why or how at the time, the sentiment is there view post

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The Aspect-Emperor posted 29 March 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed] ⟩ The Aspect-Emperor by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i had forgotten that. but that being the case, would that mean the dunyain do as well? view post

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The Meaning of Life posted 29 March 2007 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ The Meaning of Life by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i beleive civilization will eventually destroy the world not because it tried to rule it but because it tried to better it in way unsutable to anyone other than those making it better. as the saying "better for whom?" the world we create can never be more than a paradise for some and a hell for the majority, mainly because we create it. beauty is is in the eye of the beholder, and the way our structured life evolves proves this. our society today is based on human progression, yet fails miserably. we try to better the world seeing this imoerfection, but in making our situation better in response someone elses problems worsen. view post

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Kellhus's State of Mind posted 29 March 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed] ⟩ Kellhus's State of Mind by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i was under the impression the dunyain had denouced allthings sorcerous, including the no-god and the consult view post

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Kellhus's State of Mind posted 29 March 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed] ⟩ Kellhus's State of Mind by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

the dunyain sent moengus out to scout after being attacked by sranc. they sent him out to see if teir isolation was intact, and after his return, deemed him tainted and outcast him

and it would be very easy to ferget something like sorcery or even the state of the world when none have left or entered the fortress for 2000 years and ones people do not beleive in history or the past. as stated several times in the book, sorcery goes against all things dunyain, compleatly reversing the cause and effect of the logos view post

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The Meaning of Life posted 30 March 2007 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ The Meaning of Life by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

no i was quite literal. the world suffers because man betters his habitata and does not imrove the standing of the world around him. humanity will not just fail. we or on such a path of advancement and betterment that when humanity falls, so much else will be taken with it. view post

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Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 30 March 2007 in Author Q & A ⟩ Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

im sorry, i misspoke. what i meant by morality was humanity, that his dormant emotions were begining to surface.

thank you for pointing that out view post

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Evolution vs Creation posted 30 March 2007 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Evolution vs Creation by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i beleive in both creationism and evolution. i beleive that god created the universe not as it is, but more like a blank canvas and let it follow the course it took. evolution is unaceeptable to me to beleive that a thousand thousand near-impossible chances in chemicals and substances created life without some help. and creationism is unacceptable to me simply because there is too much that points away from everything it is. so i choose a happy medium view post

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Life and Death posted 30 March 2007 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Life and Death by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

lifes one true purpose is what we make it. not a single ghoal each individual strives for but looking for the one place you belong most in the world. to each his own. view post

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OK, this is stupid, but... posted 30 March 2007 in Off-Topic Discussion ⟩ OK, this is stupid, but... by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

they look a bit like the text on the filler pages, which i think are exerpts from the tusk, but i may be entirely wtrong on that view post

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Halos about Kellhus' hands? posted 30 March 2007 in Author Q & A ⟩ Halos about Kellhus' hands? by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i would agree on any matter acept this. we cat say he is a prophet unless we know wether or not he truly communes with the gods. even if he lies to him self, there is a fine line between a madman and a prophet view post

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sranc posted 30 March 2007 in The Darkness That Comes Before ⟩ sranc by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i think they are mostly humanoid other than a few key diffrences. and sice they take after the noman, it is plauseable they would inherit their beauty, albeit twisted or strange view post

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Language posted 30 March 2007 in Writing Tips ⟩ Language by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

laguage is easiest if you start with an alphabet, then develop grammer. word and sentece structure make forming the words infantessimaly easier view post

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Logos is theft posted 30 March 2007 in The Warrior Prophet ⟩ Logos is theft by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

the dunyain use the logos not as a tool for theft, but as the supreme reality of life. mission is key to them, by whatever means are neccesary, even if deciet is involved. to them, passion, feelings, even possesions are meaningless, so using another for ones own purposes has nothing to do with thier goals.

and the world born, mostly, ARE inferior to the dunyain. they have breed for 2 millenia for intelect and understaning, so even a dimwitted dunyain would outshine the smartest world born child. kellhis would only attempt to teach a full dunyain the true path. view post

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Evolution vs Creation posted 30 March 2007 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Evolution vs Creation by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

i didnt mean evolution directly but mearly the emergment of life view post

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The Meaning of Life posted 30 March 2007 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ The Meaning of Life by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

survival would be definate. but recovery? view post

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Kellhus's State of Mind posted 30 March 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed] ⟩ Kellhus's State of Mind by Trutu Angotma, Peralogue

Quote: "TheDarkness":n0i9yqnd

.......s student will bring the Spear of Heron (the significance of which i am still a little cloudy on) and destroy the No God once and for all!...[/quote:n0i9yqnd]

the heron spear is a spear constructed of pure light and was the weapon of the inchori leader sil, called suorgil, and was the only wepon that could injure the no god because of the chorae imbedded in his armour view post

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