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Re: sranc posted 14 Aug 2008, 14:08 in The Darkness That Comes Beforesranc by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Sranc = el chupacabras. Hairless, greyish, dog-like creatures that if they stood on their hind legs would be about 4-5 feet tall. They are supposedly viscous and relentless in nature. The name alone means "goatsucker/goateater". They attack livestock, mainly goats, and drink their blood with a side order of goat steak. I suspect that's where Scott got the influence. Well, that's how I see the Sranc as: genetically enhanced albino chupacabras view post

Re: Names and Pronunciation posted 14 Aug 2008, 20:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeNames and Pronunciation by Cnaiür, Peralogue

It would be fantastic if Scott could produce some audio to properly pronounce the names and words used in his books. He does provide some basic examples we can work with, but its not good enough! I can only suspect Scott wants us to use our own methods of pronunciations, based on our own language backgrounds. If I had something of mine published and released, and fans came up to me pronouncing all the names and words wrong, I would get seriously annoyed! I would find myself wanting to correct them each and every time. A time-waster! Hide, Scott, hide! If I ever meet you I will maul you down Kellhus closed-fist style for proper pronunciations. :mrgreen: Anyways... Based on his examples and my language background these are some of the rules I use, and how I pronounce some of the names: û = long u sound. au = separate into 2 syllables, like ah-oo (oo like moon and spoon) ai = long i sound ei = long a sound oi = oy (boy, toy) y = (the tricky one) if its paired with a vowel, then its a long e sound (like meal, reel), and its also its own syllable. The vowel its paired with gets pronounced separately. If its alone in-between consonants its a short i sound (skill, shit, pick). If it precedes paired vowels or is in-between vowels, it is its own consonant sound (yes, yellow) j = the j sound I use no traditional English method. Its either a consonant 'y' sound, or a revving j sound. Say shhhhhhh as in shut-up. Now rev that shhhh HARD, like water flowing aggresively, like a car revving HARD. (I'll use jjj to capture that revving j sound). I suspect its also used as a long e sound in certain words, like Cironj. (See-ron-nee?) i = I mainly turn it into a long e sound, with some exceptions. Dûnyain = Dune-yen Gilcûnya = Gill-coon-nee-ah Mog-Pharau = Mog Fah-ra-oo Paro Inrau = Pa-row In-ra-oo ('pa' as in ma and pa, the short a sound. The same with 'ra') (Imperial) Saik = Sike (although I sometimes wonder if its 'sake' - They are there for the Imperial's sake. :lol:) Mysunsai = Me-sun-sigh Isûphiryas = Ee-sue-fee-ree-us Scylvendi = skill-ven-dee Inchoroi = Een-kor-roy Cûnuroi = Koo-nuh-roy ('nuh' like mud, nothing/nuh-thing, the short u sound) Aujic = Ah-oo-jjj-ick Ainoni = Eye-non-nee Sheyic = Shay-yick Kyranean = Kee-ra-nee-en ('en' is like saying the letter 'n') Kyraneas = Kee-ra-nee-es ('es' is like saying the letter 's') Kûniüric = Koo-nee-yur-rick Kûniüri = Koo-nee-yur-ee Ikurei = Ee-kur-ray Istriya = Ee-stree-yah Xerius = Zee-ree-us (like serious, as he always is :lol: ) Conphas = Conf-es ('es' is like saying the letter 's') Nansur = Nan-sir ('sir' like purr) Skeaös = Skay-yose Seökti = Say-yoke-tee Mallahet = pronounced as its spelled; Mal-la-het Conriya = Con-ree-yah Nersei Proyas = Nair-say Proy-es Krijates Ximenus = Kree-yaht-es Zee-men-us ('yaht' pronounced like the boat 'yacht') Tydonni = Tie Domi :mrgreen: Otherwise, Ti-don-nee ('ti' like tit) Now here are ones I'm really at a loss: Cironj = See-ron-nee? Jiünati = jjj-ee-you-na-tee? Or is that j silent? Ee-you-na-tee Eärwa = If it wasn't for that umlaut ä I would pronounce it as Ah-yar-wah ('yar' like yard without the d) Eänna = If it wasn't for that umlaut ä I would pronounce it as Ah-yah-nah Thoti Eännorean = Thot-ee Ah-yah-nor-ree-en Eleäzaras = El-ah-yah-zar-as ('zar' like star) I think that Eä would sound as ay, the long a sound, or more like Eh! like Canadians say eh? Eh? Eh!-rrr-wah??? Eh!-nnn-nah??? Or, long e, then the eh! sound. Like Ee-eh! E. Eh! Sports. Ee-ehrr-wah? Ee-ehn-nah? Have any of you heard Scott pronounce Eärwa? I also would like to check out some of your pronunciations to these words. Perhaps we could build a pronunciation lexicon. Even move it over to that wiki (good idea) someone started up. Until Scott ever decides to do audio recordings. view post

Re: Took me a bit...l posted 14 Aug 2008, 21:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeTook me a bit...l by Cnaiür, Peralogue

When I first purchased The Darkness That Comes Before in mid-2003 I was sucked into a world and writing style like no other I've ever experienced. Just the prelude alone took a few days and a handful of reads. Such exquisiteness I wanted to laminate and frame each paragraph. Such depth of character I could smell their liver and pancreas. I was trying to savour every word and sentence strung together. I was flipping pages with such delicate care in fear they would crumble just by the intensity of what was written (or what was resonating throughout all of me). This sentence alone on pg. 5, "The mountain breeze was bitter with the smell of bruised pine." rabbit-holed me into memories of Europe where all I remember of the smells there were cow shit and bruised pine. Bruised pine! It was then and there I knew I was holding onto something incredible. Even with a full-time job, the grind of daily responsibilities, and gf issues (vivid images of Scylvendi discipline flashed before my soul's eye) I always found some space and time to submerge myself in-between those pages. Chapter 12 is when I put the book down. Not because I lost interest. No. It was because that entire chapter struck profound blow after blow within me. I reached a point I became so overwhelmed I could no longer proceed any further. I recall spending the next 2-3 weeks in a hypnotic state thinking about nothing else except those words, those sentences, those paragraphs. And placing them in the context of life, my life. I felt like I was [i:1vq2pcn2]awake[/i:1vq2pcn2]. Like an intense yearning was spiraling within me, through me. It was like living in a dream within a dream within a dream, like being more awake then I've ever been, and like standing outside myself and everything else. But, then an even more strange thing occurred. The gf issues were solved and I was getting laid again. That dream-like wakefulness all ended days after having non-stop make-up sex, so much I was left yoked and braindead. I swear, it was like all that profoundness and wakefulness blew out of my cock and into warm oblivion, leaving me cold and hollow. I began thinking about living the Ghandi life. The life of celibacy. If nirvana ends with spilling the seed, then I will never spill mine when I reach nirvana. I was sacked. I felt raped of something wonderful. But I digress...... Now, over 5 years and 100 books later, I have finally picked up TDTCB to absorb it once again, this time determined to read it the whole way through. I've started from the beginning and its still as fresh and new as ever. Still as profound and moving. I'm still feeling those waves of sensations in my body from time to time. This is how stories should be! I've reached pg. 500 and still going strong! It took me a bit.... a long bit... but after my experiences through and in-between reads I just might mark my arm with a swazond after I'm done with this one. Even go as far as a swazond for each book! :mrgreen: view post

Re: Names and Pronunciation posted 15 Aug 2008, 01:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeNames and Pronunciation by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] :lol: It's funny this topic should spring back to life today, actually -- I was just (procrastinating from real work or writing) by musing over issues of orthography and pronunciation for names in my little fiction project (being an extremely slow, amateur, and unpublished but grimly determined would-be author). ;) [/quote:3itd6cbd] I've been writing a book for 18 years and I've yet to complete chapter 1. How's that for a handicapped snail's pace. :lol: I'm also determined to complete it, along with all the others I've scribbled up. But, really, when you come across a book like TDTCB, it becomes both discouraging and inspiring to write. It pissed me off so much I grow more determined! :mrgreen: [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] I think, once upon a time, I would have been horrified were I an author and people pronounced my characters' names wrongly. Nowadays ... I think I'd just be happy they'd bought my book and were pronouncing the names at all! Still ... I do ponder how to write names in ways that will be more or less transparent to English-speakers unaccustomed to seeing diacritics or "funny" letters (not to mention publishers reluctant to print them!) and without doing too much violence to the "real" pronunciation. There are always a few vowels and consonants that I just can't decide what to do with! [/quote:3itd6cbd] Stick them in there. A book to decipher and discover and continuously learn from is a great book indeed. I've read many times most publishers want easy readable 'write-for-the-market' type of material, for those people who enjoy an easy read, and familiar topics, and no strange characters. English only. (isn't the iq and attention span of many in the U.S. extremely lower nowadays? :lol: I have no pity). This is why we have troll trash like Stephen King and Chuck Palahniuk (Fight Club was 100 times better than the book, and that was his best book!!! Yet he sells sells sells. It boggles me and bothers me.) But, then there are the other kinds of people. The more intellectual who prefer intellectual reads. The ones who want a challenging read, in various aspects. The ones who want all these materials that appears advanced and unfamiliar to them, yet they would still enjoy. Then again, I'm no successful writer or publisher, so what do I know. :lol: I just know I like challenging and gripping reads, books I can savor and remember. Books that can resonate loud and long enough I research, study, and learn whatever it was I got out of it, so I can get more from it. And most importantly, perhaps the most important thing of all (for me), books with characters so real I can smell them off the pages, and character interaction so real its like I am present listening, watching. Without either, the book is a fucking bore. Like every story I've ever read by Arthur C. Clarke, save one. Anyhow, moving on.... [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd]au = separate into 2 syllables, like ah-oo (oo like moon and spoon)[/quote:3itd6cbd] Hmmm, why not a diphthong as with your interpretation for [i:3itd6cbd]ai[/i:3itd6cbd] ("ai = long i sound"), like /au/ (English "ow" as in "cow")? I'd be more naturally inclined to go with a diphthong unless there were something like a diaeresis (¨) over one of the vowels (e.g. aü), marking it as being in hiatus (as done in, say, Occitan). [/quote:3itd6cbd] My base for pronunciations is to step away from English as much as I can. In English, 'au' would be pronounced like a short o sound, like doll, hall, aura, awe, and so forth. I'll always remember an African man I once worked with that pronounced the 'au' as 2 separate syllables, ah-oo, That's ah-oo-ten-tik (authentic). Ah-oo-straw-lee-ah (Australia). I found it amusing then. And very fitting for Bakker's world. So I've stuck with it. [edited add] The only exception is Cishaurim = See-shar-rim (shar like tar, bar. In this case, the 'u' is not pronounced, it just adds a lengthier 'r' sound) [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd]y = (the tricky one) if its paired with a vowel, then its a long e sound (like meal, reel), and its also its own syllable. The vowel its paired with gets pronounced separately. If its alone in-between consonants its a short i sound (skill, shit, pick). If it precedes paired vowels or is in-between vowels, it is its own consonant sound (yes, yellow)[/quote:3itd6cbd] I do agonize over the use of "y". I really want something to represent the vowel /y/ as the u in French chute or the ü in German Blüte, but since this vowel doesn't even exist in English, I know that wouldn't be at all transparent to English-speaking readers. Up to this point, I've only dared deploy "y" as a consonant /j/ as in English "yes", though I am sure you are right that Scott is using it as both a consonant and vowel -- and, yeah, at a guess maybe kind of /i/ vowel, either long or short. [/quote:3itd6cbd] Always the tricky letter. One must hear it vocalized to know its proper sound in a word. [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd]j = the j sound I use no traditional English method. Its either a consonant 'y' sound, or a revving j sound. Say shhhhhhh as in shut-up. Now rev that shhhh HARD, like water flowing aggresively, like a car revving HARD. (I'll use jjj to capture that revving j sound). I suspect its also used as a long e sound in certain words, like Cironj. (See-ron-nee?)[/quote:3itd6cbd] Actually, though my background is in Germanic languages where "j" is /j/ and I live in a Spanish-speaking country where "j" is more like /h/ , I'm actually more inclined to see Scott's "j" as something more like the typical English "j" in "judge" (as a /dʒ/). After all, why use "j" for the /j/ sound of English "yes" when its seems he is already using "y" itself for that sound? Scott's use of final "j" as in "Cironj" actually makes me think of Turkish final -c, pronounced as a /dʒ/, just like English "j" in "judge". Though your "rev'd shhhh" sound is interesting; it makes me think of the Castilian Spanish /x/ for "j", or maybe even the earlier Spanish /ʃ/ (English "sh") pronunciation of "x" -- or even the elusive Swedish "sje" sound (/ɧ/). Egotistically, I still personally think like that j = /dʒ/ ("j" in "judge") is more [i:3itd6cbd]likely[/i:3itd6cbd], but I kind of like the idea for you "j" interpretation. :) I kind of like the idea of "j" as /i:/ (long i) as well, though I'm not sure its the case here. [/quote:3itd6cbd] My Brasilian and Portuguese backgrounds rev that j up in every word I know. Ex. January = Janeiro. Janeiro is pronounced jjj-ah-nay-rrr-oo (the r is also revved up, very much like a loud cat's purr. ). Even the g gets revved up from time to time. Its a unique step away from English. Cironj was the only word I considered using the j sound, just like you stated. Like Judge. George. See-ron-ge. [edited add] What about jnan? I'm at a loss for that one, and just pronounce it as ye-nan. [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd]Dûnyain = Dune-yen Gilcûnya = Gill-coon-nee-ah[/quote:3itd6cbd] Here, for example, I be tempted to interpret Scott's "y" as /j/ ("y" in "yes") in both of these names: /du:njain/ and /gilcu:ɲa/ (interpreting the "ny" combination in the latter as something like the Spanish "ñ"). [/quote:3itd6cbd] That's interesting. You just opened up a door for me. Tie that in with the long i sound for "ai" and Dûnyain would sound Doon-njine, with a hard inflection on the 'nj' sound Gilcûnya was tricky. I first pronounced it with a revved J (most Portuguese words that begin with 'gi' are pronounced with a revved j). Jjj-ill-coon-yah. I do believe you're onto something more precise with the 'ny' pairing being pronounced as you stated. It creates a great harsh inflection I can imagine being used in Bakker's world. Gill-coo-njah. Cironj = See-ron-nge. [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] Oh, but what about that "ph"? Yeah, it's probably just an orthographic variant for "f" to look more cool :) but wouldn't it be fun if it were a aspirated /p/ like Ancient Greek letter [i:3itd6cbd]phi[/i:3itd6cbd]? :)[/quote:3itd6cbd] Mog Pharau = P-ha-row? the p and h separated like in the word up-hill? Tres cool. How about P-ha-ra-oo. :lol: Scott probably just pronounces it as Pharoah. :mrgreen: [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd]Inchoroi = Een-kor-roy[/quote:3itd6cbd] Now here I would have gone with "ch" as typical English "ch" as in "church". For you predicted pronunciation, I would have expected a spelling simply with "k". In my own project's spelling conventions, I've been using plain "c" to stand for typical English "ch" as in "church" (as in Italian). I realize "ch" would be more obvious to English-speakers, but ... I?ve just shied away from "ch" for some reason! Whenever I've tried it, I've been unhappy with the "look". Scott's "c" seems likely to just be an orthographic variation of "k", though. (Unless he's got something enormously funky going on in in names like "Cnaiür"!) :)[/quote:3itd6cbd] No 'ch' sounds as in church. I personally want to stay away from it. Even if the 'ch' as in church is really Scott's intention. :P I will try to do a better job visualizing my pronunciation. Inchoroi = ink-hor-oy ('ink' like the english word, 'hor' like whore but with a really light stress on the h, 'oy' like boy and toy) [edited add] Chorae = Kor-rye-ee (the long e cut short) [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd]Kûniüric = Koo-nee-yur-rick Kûniüri = Koo-nee-yur-ee[/quote:3itd6cbd] These spellings make me think Scott is using the diaeresis (¨) to mark hiatus, the separation of two vowels: / and perhaps / Though of course a disyllabic /i.u/ or similar construction with initial /i/ before another vowel in hiatus will easily change into /i.ju/, so we could (in a future version of the languge!) even end up with something like /ku:.ɲur/ [/quote:3itd6cbd] I think I got this one correct: Koo-nee-yur-rick and Koo-nee-yur-ee with very little emphasis on the -nee- as if its barely pronounced. I guess it would be like this: Kooni-yur-ick and Kooni-yur-ee Although, I do wonder if there is a y sound right after the K, like K-you-nee-yur-ick. Like literally saying the letter Q. Q-nee-yur-ick. [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd] Jiünati = jjj-ee-you-na-tee? Or is that j silent? Ee-you-na-tee[/quote:3itd6cbd] Yeah, here is where I think j = /dʒ/ ("j" in "judge") solve those problems neatly (if mundanely!).[/quote:3itd6cbd] You could be right. But think it like this. How would the Scylvendi pronounce it and how would, say, the Ainoni pronounce it. The Scylvendi probably use the hard 'g' sound, while the Ainoni use the revved j, or just silence the j. Very much like how Portuguese use the hard g and the revved j for the letter "G" while the Spanish silence the "G". And both are so close together in land and language they're like big brother and little brother to each other in the Iberian peninsula. Which makes me think if that's the reason why Scott will not create pronunciation audio for us. One method of pronunciation for one race/group of people could be entirely different than the pronunciation of the next race/group of people, in the context of his world. [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] [quote="Cnaiür":3itd6cbd]Eleäzaras = El-ah-yah-zar-as ('zar' like star)[/quote:3itd6cbd] Why "zar" as "star" rather than "tsar"? [/quote:3itd6cbd] Like err and in error?? like how the French pronounce zero? like czar. Ell-ah-yah-czar-as That's actually very fitting! But I'm still at a loss for Eä. I personally like Ah-yaaaaah. Like Kung-fu. But from Scott's use of 'E' in Serwë, the 'e' could be the same, a long 'a' sound (hay, may, day) so eä would be ay-yaaaah Or like what I suggested earlier, the Canadian's use the word 'eh', which is very much like a long 'a' sound, but cut short. Scott [i:3itd6cbd]is[/i:3itd6cbd] Canadian! And he could very well be intentionally inserting the 'eh' sound in 'eä' for the sake of his Canadian heritage. Sooo.... Eärwa = eh-yaaaah-rrr-wah Eänna = eh-yaaaah-nnn-nah Eleäzaras = Ell-eh-yaaah-zerr-as [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] I am one of those madmen who reads the appendices of [i:3itd6cbd]Lord of the Rings[/i:3itd6cbd] for fun. ;) [/quote:3itd6cbd] You truly are a madman. :shock: [quote="carlsefni":3itd6cbd] If the publishers balk at putting in appendices, I'd love to see such info go on the Web site. And if Scott hasn't got a pile of notes on this stuff, if he has just "made it up", then he's done an excellent job at faking a very realistic looking multilingual milieu! :mrgreen:[/quote:3itd6cbd] I doubt he's faking it. He stated it took him 13 years to put together TDTCB. And his areas of education speak for themselves. This man is steeped! I'm glad you responded to this topic. Keep it coming. We'll do Scott's job for us. :lol: view post

Re: Names and Pronunciation posted 15 Aug 2008, 01:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeNames and Pronunciation by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Actually, it would really help to know Scott's background, and the languages he learned, so it can narrow down the realm of pronunciations for us all. How about one of you forum admins who is close to Scott ask about those things. :wink: Or else this rash Scylvendi bastard might have to unsheathe his sword and mark a couple of swazonds seconds afterwards. :mrgreen: view post

Blogcritics Magazine interview with Scott Bakker 06-12-2008 posted 15 Aug 2008, 13:08 in Interviews and ReviewsBlogcritics Magazine interview with Scott Bakker 06-12-2008 by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I couldn't find a post for this interview anywhere on the forum. Here it is. [img:upo6icdd][/img:upo6icdd] view post

Re: Midnight sufferings posted 16 Aug 2008, 15:08 in Member Written WorksMidnight sufferings by Cnaiür, Peralogue

That's some good hopeless romantic material. Well written. I really enjoyed it. view post

Re: Names and Pronunciation posted 16 Aug 2008, 17:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeNames and Pronunciation by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] Sounds about right! I think I officially decided I would write a proper novel in 1995. :roll: I've made it through more than a chapter, but it's been a learning process, and I've often found myself what I thought was a long way in, but then deciding things were not right, and starting over again. I think the first few paragraphs of my most recent drafts are still largely the same as when I began -- but everything else has moved and shifted and usually changed utterly! :lol: [/quote:1qxfotaw] Sounds like you're meticulous like me. I have chunks written, but from time to time I go back and change a word here, add a sentence there, its always like I'm never satisfied. I've realized this can be a deadly trap, so I've placed my main story in dormancy months ago (it'll always be my prime story until its complete :lol:), and moved on to scribbling up a couple of other ones. [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] I've done lots of writing over the years, but never imposed much structure, so now I'm trying to think carefully about outlines and plans ... a skeleton over which to paint flesh, layer by layer .... [/quote:1qxfotaw] imho, it's always best to create the skeleton of the story first. From the beginning to the very end. Draw it up like Achamian's map. The rest of the journey is to add everything else. [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] Yes, after reading TDTCB, I decided I could at least get away with a few diaeresis and circumflex marks. :) I do know many readers find that sort of thing distracting, but I like to think it adds a little "seasoning".[/quote:1qxfotaw] Do you eat your salad plain? Without the oil or vinegar or salt or dressing? :P [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] I do think I'll use the circumflex to sporadically mark long vowels where I think an English speaker might otherwise pronounce them short (e.g. to encourage something written [i:1qxfotaw]dûk[/i:1qxfotaw] to be pronounced more like French [i:1qxfotaw]duc[/i:1qxfotaw] than English "duck"), and likewise I think I'll use the diaeresis sporadically to mark out vowels as separate syllables where I think English speakers might otherwise pronounce them as a diphthong in combo with an adjacent vowel (as in French [i:1qxfotaw]Noël[/i:1qxfotaw], "no-ehl") or as silent (e.g. to distinguish something like [i:1qxfotaw]winë[/i:1qxfotaw], "wihn-eh" from English "wine"). Not flawless techniques, of course, but they will add occasionaly "visual interest", if nothing else, and will perhaps remind people that they are not looking at English-language environments. Still, I intend to try to stick reasonably closely to usages that will work for English-speakers. I think I must use "y" for /j/ (the "y" of English "yes"), and "j" for /dʒ/ ("j" in "judge"). I have flirted with using "dg" or "dj" for /dʒ/ ("dg" in "judge"!), but I wonder whether spelling a word pronounced like English "judge" as either [i:1qxfotaw]dgudg[/i:1qxfotaw] or [i:1qxfotaw]djudj[/i:1qxfotaw] would be too weird? Though, actually [i:1qxfotaw]djudj[/i:1qxfotaw] as a kind of pleasantly exotic look to it .... :) Still, I don't think I need the letter "j" for anything else, so I don't really [i:1qxfotaw]dj[/i:1qxfotaw] instead of just plain [i:1qxfotaw]j[/i:1qxfotaw] for the "j" in "judge". Being set on "y" for /j/ (the "y" of English "yes"), that makes it straightforward to use "ny" and "ly" for what Portuguese would write [i:1qxfotaw]nh[/i:1qxfotaw] and [i:1qxfotaw]lh[/i:1qxfotaw] or Spanish would write [i:1qxfotaw]ñ[/i:1qxfotaw] and [i:1qxfotaw]ll[/i:1qxfotaw]. My pain remains in whether to admit "y" to represent that elusive /y/ vowel as in French [i:1qxfotaw]chute[/i:1qxfotaw] or German [i:1qxfotaw]Blüte[/i:1qxfotaw]? So far, my decision has been "no", since I'm pretty sure English speakers would simply pronounce a "y" vowel as a /ai/ diphthong (as in English "why") or possibly a long i vowel (as in English place-names like "Shelby"), and I can't use a German-style "ü" either, since I'm pretty sure I want the diaeresis to distinguish syllabication in vowels. And since that /y/ vowel is not terribly Anglophone, I think I'll to abandon marking it distinctly, and simply write it as an "i" or a "u" ... probably just "i", since I'm actually not very happy with the [i:1qxfotaw]look[/i:1qxfotaw] of the letter "u" in names where I would like a /y/ vowel.[/quote:1qxfotaw] Balance is crucial. Imho, balance must be struck between writing for yourself and writing for an audience. Put in everything [i:1qxfotaw]you[/i:1qxfotaw] want, then balance it out -change it- with what you think would work best for the reader. In your scenario, it would probably help greatly to add an appendix for proper pronunciations (more thorough than Scott's. :D) Then again, mystery breeds faith and devotion. :wink: Just look at us here on this topic. [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] [quote="Cnaiür":1qxfotaw]My Brasilian and Portuguese backgrounds rev that j up in every word I know. Ex. January = Janeiro. Janeiro is pronounced jjj-ah-nay-rrr-oo (the r is also revved up, very much like a loud cat's purr. ).[/quote:1qxfotaw] Ah, I think I'm with you now -- basically a /ʒ/, like the like the French "j" in joue or a bit like the sound of "si" in English "vision". Yeah, even though I'm thinking like an English "j" in "judge", I think I'd be happy with your Portuguese "j", too. :) Only a few steps away, in a sense![/quote:1qxfotaw] You hit the nail on the head. That revved j I speak of is exactly like the English word 'vision', and 'fusion'. [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] Yeah, in a way, I'm seeing that "ny" in Scott's "Gilcûnya" and "Dûnyain" as something like a Portuguese [i:1qxfotaw]nh[/i:1qxfotaw]. So, in Portuguese orthpgraphy .... like a "Guilcunha" and "Dunhain", perhaps! :) [/quote:1qxfotaw] Another nail you hit. I use the Portuguese 'nha' manner of pronouncing the 'nya' in Gilcûnya: But that sound works best with the 'k' sound preceding it, like cunha, and picanha, etc.... But not in words like Dûnyain. Since writing in this topic I've decided to revert back to my original method of pronouncing Gilcûnya with the revved j. Jjj-ill-cunha. For me, it just seems more appropriate. :) [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] [quote="Cnaiür":1qxfotaw]Although, I do wonder if there is a y sound right after the K [in Kûniüric], like K-you-nee-yur-ick. Like literally saying the letter Q. Q-nee-yur-ick.[/quote:1qxfotaw] Ah, though that would be a very "Anglophone" style pronunciation, as that added /j/ before long /u:/ is a particularly English-language thing -- like the typical English-speaker's pronunciation of "Cuba" as /kju:bə/, whereas a Spanish speaker would say /ku:βa/. Thus, I think I lean away from that "K-you-" pronunciation, as I would expect to see that actually written "Kyûniüric". [/quote:1qxfotaw] True. The Q sound is too "anglophone" as you put it. :) It was just a curious thought. [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] [quote="Cnaiür":1qxfotaw]But think it like this. How would the Scylvendi pronounce it and how would, say, the Ainoni pronounce it. The Scylvendi probably use the hard 'g' sound, while the Ainoni use the revved j, or just silence the j. Very much like how Portuguese use the hard g and the revved j for the letter "G" while the Spanish silence the "G". And both are so close together in land and language they're like big brother and little brother to each other in the Iberian peninsula. Which makes me think if that's the reason why Scott will not create pronunciation audio for us. One method of pronunciation for one race/group of people could be entirely different than the pronunciation of the next race/group of people, in the context of his world. [/quote:1qxfotaw] Though are we assuming that the Scylvendi and Ainoni are all encountering these names in a [i:1qxfotaw]literate[/i:1qxfotaw] context -- that is, they see the name written down and are trying to pronounce it in accordance with their "standard orthographies" -- or are they encountering these names in an [i:1qxfotaw]oral[/i:1qxfotaw] context -- that is, hearing a name spoken that we (as obligated readers in this situation) are seeing represented as Scott writes it on the page in some orthography or another? I would guess the latter, such that Scott is showing us the name written as someone in Eärwa would write it (or in transliteration or transcription from whatever script system they use :)) and characters from outside the speech community associated with that orthography simply do their best to reproduce the name as it is [i:1qxfotaw]spoken[/i:1qxfotaw] to them, rather than pronounce a name that they see [i:1qxfotaw]written[/i:1qxfotaw] ....[/quote:1qxfotaw] Using the Scylvendi was a bad example. They don't read nor write. Its only tribal symbols and colours, and swazonds for them. One reason Cnaiür despises the world of men is because they put "breath on parchment". In terms of oral, I use the African person I worked with as this example. Even though people tried to correct him with his pronunciation of 'authentic', he would always say it in his African manner. Each race and group of people have their unique ways of pronunciation no matter what. Also, some group of people can't even do certain pronunciations no matter what. For example, their are many groups/races of people not able to do the "th" sound no matter how hard they try. Words like thick, three, through will always be pronounced as tick, tree, true. So.. once again, I elude to Scott not doing these pronunciation audio files because he doesn't want to cement the pronunciations, when the words could very well be pronounced differently to each reader with their language background, and to the characters themselves and their language backgrounds. It would probably be best if Scott could give us some cross-referencing info on real languages to the PoN languages. On real groups of people to the ones in PoN. Right now I can only assume the cross-referencing with my limited history and language knowledge. :( [quote="carlsefni":1qxfotaw] Mmmm, more musings and ramblings! :) [/quote:1qxfotaw] :D view post

Re: Midnight sufferings posted 17 Aug 2008, 14:08 in Member Written WorksMidnight sufferings by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I thought it was good as it is, as a short story. No more adding, just polishing. I thought you ended the story well... to me it carried a little mystery. Was he heading back home to sulk? Going elsewhere to drink some more, in a more private area where no one can bother him? Was he going to try to change himself for the better? Was he going back to April again? Was he going to off himself? I enjoy story endings that keep my mind continuing the story. Your story did that to me. view post

Re: Review of Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman posted 17 Aug 2008, 14:08 in ReviewsReview of Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Garbage. Not even worthy of a paper weight. Not even worthy of being sold to a used bookstore. It sits at the bottom of a box of old books I have so I never have to see it again. If I ever need paper to get a fireplace fire going I know where to look. The second book I read by Gaiman, and I'm most adamantly certain its the last one too. view post

Re: Nothing against female Fantasy authors but... posted 17 Aug 2008, 15:08 in Literature DiscussionNothing against female Fantasy authors but... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="Chyndonax":ryt1sb5z]Am I the only one who has trouble getting into their works. It seems like every time I try and get into a book by a female fantasy or sf author I can't. It just isn't interesting at all to me. Anyone else feel the same? And Diane Duane is the exception here. She's a fun read.[/quote:ryt1sb5z] You shot yourself in the foot with that last sentence. I wish I was here back when you started this topic so I could shoot your other foot. In comparison to male sf writers, the women sf writers are a tiny minority. And of all those male sf writers how many do you really enjoy? Probably a tiny minority. As many as there are women sf writers in the business. Here's a couple names I have found to be excellent. Ursula Le Guin and Marion Zimmer Bradley. For me, MZB is a champion at telling a story. Imho, she blows away almost everyone in the sf/fantasy arena (and outside it), whether they have testicles or not. If you enjoy action packed stories, then stay clear from her. She's [i:ryt1sb5z]all[/i:ryt1sb5z] about the characters and how they interact and react to situations and other characters, and to themselves. And her writing is [i:ryt1sb5z]to the fucking point[/i:ryt1sb5z]. Never has an author absorbed me so deeply I forget I'm hungry and forget what time it is or where I am when I lift my eyes off the pages. I compare Scott to her in many aspects, and not the other way around. Its like Scott is her reincarnation, and packed with all this education to mix into a new world to explore. I know everyone has their tastes. For me, MZB is a queen. If you haven't read anything by her, then I recommend Mists of Avalon, Stormqueen!, The Fall of Atlantis (its 2 books in one) to start off. She has over 50 novels. Enjoy. view post

Re: Top 10 (or so) Ways You Kow You're an R. Scott Bakker Fan posted 17 Aug 2008, 16:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionTop 10 (or so) Ways You Kow You're an R. Scott Bakker Fan by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I've almost completed reading The Darkness That Comes Before and, so far, these are what I came up with: - You're become a "pompous ass" and sign your name with an "R." in front of it: R. John Smith, R. Jane Baker - You name your daughter 'Esmenet' - You experience the Mandate dream - You pray your pregnant wife doesn't give birth to a blue baby - You now look at crows more intently to find the one with the small head and blue eyes - You render the hidden movers and shakers of Earth as 'The Consult' - You attempt to live and be a Dûnyain monk; you surrender to the Logos, seeking absolute awareness, living the Shortest Way, committed to mission, reading thoughts and faces to dominate souls and circumstance. You become what comes before. Well, at least, you try. - Despite your Christian faith you say "Sweet Sejenus" - You look upon all non-Christians as heathen - You refer to the Pope as Maithenet, and the Jesuit Supreme General as Sarcellus - You're convinced all priests who molest little boys were raised in the House Gaunum, and Michael Jackson is the Patridomos himself - You now call the North Star the "Nail of Heaven" - You mark swazonds on your cock for every woman you lay - Every time you're horny you look at your wife/gf as Esmenet, and mumble, "Come to me my Esmi". After a long sweaty session of vibrant sex your wife/gf stuns you by saying, "Ah, Callustrus, you're dreadfully gifted... what would I do without that thick cock of yours, hmmmm. Of all the morsels I get, you truly are the banquet." - You look upon trouble-making terrorizing toddlers and pre-teens as Sranc, and give them grubs and insects on Halloween - "Pardon my Sheyic, but, f--- off!" - You point to your asshole friend and say, "Coony, coony. That's Gilcûnya for 'you're a dirty, mold-infested douchbag'". - You're convinced Scott's flushed cheeks are due to his wife's male Scylvendi complex. - A beggar once asked you for money and you responded, "I only have 3 copper talents, just enough for a couple pints of ale and a 1/2 pound of Sranc jerky. You should try your luck in Momemn. I've heard many from all across the Three Seas have gathered there in masses, something about an Inrithi calling. And you know those Inrithi, they're very kind and giving." - In fear of not making next month's mortgage payments and insurance payments and bill payments, you begin to entertain the idea of selling one of your daughters off. Especially, now that they are of age. And you look upon little Caroline as your retirement deposit. - You now refer to chess as Benjuka. If your opponent asks, or appears perplexed by that name, you reply, "Oh, its the Aujic name for it, dating back over 5000 years. I've studied its masters and permutations since those historical times to the present". Without making your first move, you now have the upper hand. - You quote Ajencis every chance you get. "Faith is the truth of passion" - You etch PoN runes into a marble-sized ball-bearing and clutch it tightly every time your mother-in-law is present. - You look upon all lonely grieving drunk men as Leweths - You name your cock "The Heron Spear" :mrgreen: view post

Re: Took me a bit...l posted 19 Aug 2008, 00:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeTook me a bit...l by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Well... I [b:3h8dvii4]finally[/b:3h8dvii4] completed reading The Darkness That Comes Before the other day! Woo-hoo! :D What an exhilarating read! A great way to end the first book. I never expected Skeaös to be a Consult spy. Its got me thinking about all the other characters in the book, even the Mandate ones, like Nautzera. I'm already edgy to begin The Warrior Prophet, which has been sitting on my bookshelf still crisp, new, and virgin tight for over 2 years. :lol: Unfortunately, I passed by the library the other day, cuz I had time to kill before an appointment, and walked out with 2 Philip K Dick books. I've already plowed through A Scanner Darkly, and just started Valis today ( :shock: :!: ). This man is one of a kind! Once I'm done Valis I'm going to begin The Warrior Prophet. I just hope it doesn't take me over 5 years again. :lol: Sometimes I read certain books at a slower rate than normal, and some I read quicker, and at the rate I've been going with Scott's book he might have the 3rd trilogy already released before I've even finished reading the first trilogy. :mrgreen: He probably writes them faster than I read them. Actually, he does! :lol: Truly, I already consider Scott's writing and story (so far) as one of the best out there. Almost worthy of being king in my heart. Its incredible for a first book. I hope Scott can keep the books coming. 8) Definitely worthy of a swazond. :mrgreen: view post

Re: Use of mythology when creating... posted 19 Aug 2008, 14:08 in Writing TipsUse of mythology when creating... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I echo this writing tip. Almost all my inspiration stems from mythologies. The Greek stories alone are worthy of pumping out thousands of novels. :mrgreen: view post

Re: Scott Bakker ruined it for me. posted 19 Aug 2008, 15:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionScott Bakker ruined it for me. by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Check out Marion Zimmer Bradley's material. I compare Scott's TDTCB (only one I've read so far) to her work in many ways, but TDTCB has more of a ... (can't find the proper word, so I'll just say....) philosophical and deeper edge in the writing. MZB just tells the story like it is. Or, step outside of fantasy and look in the SF section. Philip K Dick is one of a kind! He's another writer that tells it like it is. I'm reading Valis at the moment and I'm already blown away and loving every moment of it. His stories and writing are very different from Scott's. Perhaps, that's what you need, something [i:fybgtw37]different[/i:fybgtw37] in all aspects from Scott's work. Step into the mythology realm. The Arthurian legends or the Greek myths are great places to start. If you want to keep along the lines of Scott's work and inspirations, then delve into philosophy works, learn a new language, read GRRM books, pick up the Bible, check out the book "A Mind of its Own" by Cordelia Fine, which Scott highly recommends everyone read. Or just go pick up a Far Side collection and laugh until you cramp and hurt. One thing is certain, in this day and age there is no scarcity or shortcomings in things to read. And to say Scott ruined it for you... :roll: If only I was there to give you some good ol' fashion Scylvendi discipline. Scott's work is inspiring and mind-opening, and I'm grateful for it. If there's truly nothing you can read, then go hug your mom and dad and express how much you love them so much for copulating and bringing you into this world, because without them you never would've had the opportunity to read Scott's work. :wink: view post

Re: Names and Pronunciation posted 21 Aug 2008, 16:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeNames and Pronunciation by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":tn4vtmw1] [quote="Cnaiür":tn4vtmw1]It would probably be best if Scott could give us some cross-referencing info on real languages to the PoN languages. On real groups of people to the ones in PoN. Right now I can only assume the cross-referencing with my limited history and language knowledge. :( [/quote:tn4vtmw1] Well, I recall this quote from earlier in this same thread: [quote="Lies And Perfidy":tn4vtmw1]It's worth noting, for those who missed it in the glossary of TTT, that the names we get in the books are chiefly Ketyai interpretations; for instance, "Coithus" is actually "Koütha" in the original Galeoth, which definitely has more of a Norsirai (read: Anglo-Saxon) ring to it. It'd be interesting to see what some of the other equivalents are.[/quote:tn4vtmw1] Now unfortuntely, I haven't got TTT yet :cry: and so I haven't seen the glossary there! So perhaps that would answer more of my questions about pronunciations and even similarities or analogues between some of Eärwa's fictional languages and Real World languages. Time (and successful intercontinental delivery from Amazon) will tell. ;)[/quote:tn4vtmw1] I have TTT. I've browsed through the encyclopedic glossary but never read its intro. This is some of what it states: "Inrithi scholars commonly rendered names in their Sheyic form, opting for native forms only in the absence of antique Sheyic analogues. So, for instance, the surname Coithus is in fact a Sheyic version of the Gallish "Koütha", and so is rendered as such here. The surname Hoga, on the other hand, has no extant Sheyic form, as so is rendered in the original TyDonni" "The vast majority of the following proper names, then, are simply transliterated from their Sheyic (and in some instance Kûniüric) form." The last sentence in the intro to the TTT Encyclopedic Glossary: "These would be the names as Drusas Achamian knew them." In the TTT glossary, under "Sheyic": "The language of the Ceneian Empire, which still serves, in debased form, as the liturgical language of the Thousand Temples, and as the "common tongue" of the Three Seas" In TDTCB appendices: High Sheyic = Language of the Ceneian Empire Low Sheyic = Language of the Nansur Empire and [i:tn4vtmw1]lingua franca[/i:tn4vtmw1] of the Three Seas The Ceneian and Nansur Empires are north-western empires. The Ceneian was the greater of the 2 empires, and Nansur is the current empire, which morphed out of the Ceneian empire. Now, I'm taking a stab here.... to place it in today's history, the Ceneian Empire = British Empire in all its glory once upon a time, and the Nansur is the now debased British Empire today (or U.S.A). In the context of language, then, High Sheyic = Old English, Low Sheyic = modern English. So, most of the names and places are based on High Sheyic (Old English), which has been transliterated into Low Sheyic (modern English). With this hypothesis, most of the names are actually pronounced in the modern English way, with exceptions here and there. The most notable exceptions being the names that use a circumflex and/or an umlaut. Modern English pronunciation rules apply everywhere else. So.... if this is the case, I have some personal pronunciation corrections to make. What do you think? view post

Re: Sex posted 21 Aug 2008, 17:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionSex by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Sex? Monogamist. Preferably early in the morning or late at night, every day. I try to rotate through the 10000+ positions; favourites = missionary, vertical missionary, doggy, and being bucked like a bronco. Oral is always a pleasure. For her also. Locations: preferably outdoors, in forests, by rivers, lakes, oceans. Accessories: her choice, but I always carry cuffs - used more often than condoms. Fetishes: knee-high black boots and see-though nighties. Reality: my cuffs are rusting and my full pack of condoms have expired. Alternate: Engaging mental love with my books and writing; my lifelong harems. :lol: view post

Re: Your First Time posted 22 Aug 2008, 23:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionYour First Time by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I've been reading since I was too young to remember, starting with books on animals to Curious George to Choose Your Own Adventures to Sherlock Holmes to Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms books to Stephen king books to Jim Morrison poetry (which really got me savagely going with writing), up until I was 15... but the one that opened my brain up was when I was seventeen: [b:36gtq5wi]John Fowles - The Collector[/b:36gtq5wi]. Something about it really kicked me and my brain into gear. I'm no butterfly collector and I've never trapped any woman in my house, but, there was just that... [i:36gtq5wi]something[/i:36gtq5wi] - something about the 2 perspectives, something about both characters' thoughts and emotions - just something I really related to that really got me going. view post

Re: posted 22 Aug 2008, 23:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionMusic..not generally... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="Warrior-Poet":3dfuf34g]Any of you like Def Leppard? Pour Some Sugar On Me, and others cannnot be denied.[/quote:3dfuf34g] ROFL! :lol: That, and "Paul Revere" by Beastie Boys is what got me into listening to music. Heck, just because of those 2 songs I have several vinyl LPs, over 100 tapes, about 50 CDs, and over 30 concert tickets to prove I was there (a couple even signed by band members). :) Nowadays, I don't listen to music. Its become unwanted, undesired noise to me. Its like it all sounds the same to me, like I've heard it all before. Blah!!! If I do listen to music, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, GNR, RATM, and Jane's Addiction (especially!) still get my blood flowing and me going. "I wish I knew everyone's nicknames all their slang and all their sayings, and every way to show affection and how to dress to fit the occasion. I wish we all waved!" Yeah! "One come a day the water will run and no man will stand for the things that he has done... " Hurrah!!!!! Yeah! view post

Re: The Ramblings of two SciFi geeks in the ATL posted 23 Aug 2008, 00:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionThe Ramblings of two SciFi geeks in the ATL by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Oh wow! I wish you were here in Toronto, and did this! I'd make sure to give you honest-to-No-God Scylvendi discipline before night's end. Booze included. I'd even bring a Xunnurit if anyone were to be Xerius. :mrgreen: view post

Re: Help me understand posted 23 Aug 2008, 00:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionHelp me understand by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Wow, that's heavy duty. I highly recommend the movie "In Bruges". One character states "I'm suicidal. You're suicidal. We're all suicidal. Get over it. We all have to live with it. Somehow, in our own way." or something like that. Its a comedy, imo, but I felt that line summed up a lot. In a philosophical way, I sometimes think this life is merely a test. The real life comes after we die. We're all placed here, or chose to be here at this time for a reason; a reason I suspect has to do with advancing our spiritual understanding, and advancing our life - in the whole universal scope of things. Once we've learned the lessons we need to learn, then, we can move on to the next stage of life to learn those lessons, whatever that may be, until we've finally learned all the lessons we need to learn to be once again united with the Divine One/Creator/Logos/God, whatever you wish to call it. view post

Re: This just in; posted 23 Aug 2008, 12:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionThis just in; by Cnaiür, Peralogue

*New Alert!* *News Alert!* This just in... During my good-looking stud days when females actually approached me, whenever an unattractive one asked me what I thought of them (physically), or if I found them attractive, I would always respond with, "I think you're cute." For those that don't know, the word "cute" is code for "I think you're ugly". Its a word used whenever you wish to not be honestly straightforward, yet, remain nice and polite. Most guys know this code (at least, here in Toronto), so if you females ever get the "cute" response, now you know what he [i:31afzmxu]really[/i:31afzmxu] thinks about you. :) view post

Re: This just in; posted 26 Aug 2008, 18:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionThis just in; by Cnaiür, Peralogue

It wasn't just me, or my circle of friends at that time. I've also met guys who would do anything with a heartbeat. And do. The "cute" adjective is the only one in their vocab to use to be nice and polite to the ones they considered ugly or unattractive, but would still want their goods, for their own desperate sake. Of course, it could be different with everyone else. The way I see it is, if she was attractive, then the man would say so, and not use that lame "cute" word. Cute is for puppies and kittens and babies. Not women. Beauty has many dimensions, and a man would point them all out to the best of his vocab. I'm not a woman, so I don't know how they look at these things. I would hope their vocab has more than "cute" in store. I might cringe and be ever suspicious if they used that to describe me. :roll: Then again, nowadays, that might be a compliment. :lol: Anyhow, the "cute" code was many years ago, and times change. view post

Re: Music..not generally... posted 26 Aug 2008, 18:08 in Off-Topic DiscussionMusic..not generally... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Hysteria is a legendary album in my collection. My very first tape. My very first rock band t-shirt was the Hysteria cover album with concert dates on the back. Amazingly, my young brother and one of his friends, for several years now - up to this very day - rock that t-shirt like its some priceless holy relic, and walk around downtown Toronto like they're kings and all eyes should be on them and all women should be on their knees in their presence. My brother's friend takes it to the extreme limit of sometimes wanting to fight anyone and everyone while we wears it. Its a crazy matter, with crazy tales to tell :shock: . What a $10 investment can do over the course of 20 years is truly amazing. :lol: Anyhow... I'm with you carlsefni, I lost all interest in the band when I heard Adrenalize (Let's Get Rocked?! Puh-leeeeease!). But I was also listening to Jane's Addiction during those times (when don't I listen to them! :D). Hysteria and Pyromania were the ones I enjoyed. I almost don't even remember High N Dry. The last song they made that I enjoyed was a b-side "Two Steps Behind". Ever since, I haven't heard a thing by them, cept the news of the guitarist passing on, which just goes to show what alcohol can do. :| view post

Re: Help me understand posted 08 Sep 2008, 21:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionHelp me understand by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="Curethan":2ywydxl0]Try flipping the paradigm. Imagine someone you care about ending their life due to disinterest/depression/apathy or whatever. Then think why that might be a bad idea. I often find that whilst it is easy to see the flaws in other's thoughts or actions, we refuse the simple logic that aplies these insights to ourselves.[/quote:2ywydxl0] This is a rough topic. Lord knows what people feel or what goes through their own mind at any given time or place. If only people can educate themselves in some way to think/believe that life is a test/exercise/lesson and it needs to be lived out regardless the hardship or ease, then they could move on properly in the whole cosmic outcome. In the case of suicide (which is still murder), my opinion, is those people will most likely come right back (or sent back?) to the life level they were at to try again - to learn those lessons they need to learn. Something equivalent to cosmic-scale karma. They did something that needs to be alleviated. These people would probably have a harder life the next time around. But this is all philosophical/theological speculation... Off topic... In Bruges was a great movie. I don't like Colin Farrell as an actor (except in Phone Booth) but he was hilarious in that movie. Then again, the movie is not so off topic because the movie has a suicide theme running through it view post

Re: US Presidential Elections posted 09 Sep 2008, 20:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionUS Presidential Elections by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Does it really matter who becomes President? The wars and invasions will still continue, the economy will continue to slide, more banks will continue to close, more money and land will continue to consolidate into fewer hands, more draconian laws, no real 911 investigation - its whitewash will continue to stink and rot and puss, more threats and pushes toward a North American superstate (bye bye Canada, Mexico, U.S.).... Do you really think Obama will be there for the US people? Even if he's not working for the Consult, he's going to spend his entire term reversing and patching up all the damage the Bush dictatorship did. A real President would abolish the Feds, ban the CFR, "shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces", end all the wars and invasions, and bring all the U.S. troops back into the country to [i:3129xsne]truly[/i:3129xsne] protect the nation's people. And that's just a start. Do you think the next US president will do any of these things? JFK once tried, and look what happened to him. If Obama tries.... no, he won't. He's a Consult puppet. A ventriloquist dummy. A Manchurian Candidate. Pardon my pessimism, but there's no real nominee for the US presidency who will make any positively effective change. Even if there was... the electronic voting machines will ensure that candidate doesn't get their votes counted. Once upon a time the tune was "United we stand, divided we fall." Now, its "divided we stand, united we fall". view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 11 Sep 2008, 13:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I finished reading [i:37i8trbx]The Darkness That Comes Before[/i:37i8trbx] about 3 weeks ago and, instead of continuing on to the next book I got sucked into a PKD and GRRM binge ever since. In that time, I've read these gems: [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] Excellent story. Better than the movie, and the movie was also excellent. [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] This one was a :shock: :!: I had to purchase this one because I plan to read it again. Also purchased the subsequent 2 books in this trilogy. [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] So-so. [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] Outstanding! Incredible! I couldn't put this one down. I read it in 5 days and didn't sleep much. The writing is hypnotically absorbing. The characters are some of the best I've ever encountered. Highly recommended. I placed an amazon order for this one and the next 2 books, in hardcover, and I anxiously await their arrival [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] Incredible short novel. [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] Good, but pales in comparison to the first one. This one had more of a comedic tone to it. [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] Great concepts, but it should have been taken further, deeper. Still a good story. [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] Fucked up. Lots of twists. Great concepts. I plan to read this one again. . . . . . . . . . [img:37i8trbx][/img:37i8trbx] I'm reading this one now. Almost a third of the way through. GRRM's writing is one of a kind. So absorbing I now pace myself so I can get proper sleep. :) view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 11 Sep 2008, 23:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":25gs2dy8] I agree, [i:25gs2dy8]Game of Thrones[/i:25gs2dy8] was a fabulous series kick-off. I've generally enjoyed the subsequent books in the series, too, though I have the feeling that (as often happens) success has blunted editorial oversight: the most recent installments have grown in length and slowed in pace, IMO. Still better than a great deal of epic fantasy, but ... well, even though [i:25gs2dy8]Game of Thrones[/i:25gs2dy8] is hardly light on page-count, even by the standards of the genre, it's a lot snappier than, say, [i:25gs2dy8]A Feast for Crows[/i:25gs2dy8] (which, I think, only contains half of the amount of plot development that was originally intended for it, with the rest of what was supposed to take place between its covers eventually having been hived off into what will be the next published book!). The production of increasingly weighty and complex tomes seems to have generally slowed down publication as well: the first 3 books came out at about two years intervals, I think, and then there was a 4 o 5 year gap until the fourth book, and it looks like a similar period will have passed by the time the next one comes out. At this rate, it could be 2020 before the final planned book is published! People born just after [i:25gs2dy8]Game of Thrones[/i:25gs2dy8] was published could have babies of their own by then. :lol: [/quote:25gs2dy8] I read this series was originally intended to be a trilogy. By the time the 3rd book released it was to be a 5 book series. The fourth book was so huge the editors insisted it be split into 2 books, so GRRM split it by removing certain characters right out and leaving them for the 5th book. I suspect what was suppose to be the 5th book is now to be split into 2 books, making the whole series a 7 book series. Imho, GRRM is trying to milk it for all its worth, like several other writers who release like 10 book series. Seven books in a widely praised series can rake in more than double the profits of a highly praised 3 book series. I can also understand some why its taking longer to release the books now... GRRM needs to come up with new content to fill out his books, as opposed to already having his story laid out in the beginning when it was projected to only be a trilogy. Also, he's getting himself mixed up in other stuff, like the 2 Hedge Knight novellas, The Hunter's Run which he wrote with 2 other writers, the Wild Cards stuff, and Lord knows what else... he should prioritize and just focus on the series, get it done and over with. Like you said, the babies born right after [i:25gs2dy8]A Game of Thrones[/i:25gs2dy8] was released will probably grow up to read the series and then wait for the last novel to be released. I just hope its worth it in the end. Perhaps, GRRM needs to take some pointers from Scott on how to complete a book in a short period of time. Amazon shows a Jan 2009 release for The Judging Eye. That's 5 books in under 6 years. I truly praise Scott for this outstanding drive and ability! Way to go!! You show these bloated bastards how its done. :mrgreen: view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 12 Sep 2008, 22:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

:D I just received brand-spanking new hardcover copies of the first 3 books in the mail today, and purchased a used hardcover copy of [i:3diglmmm]A Feast For Crows[/i:3diglmmm] in very nice condition for $7. It all worked out very snuggly, even on my bookshelf. I'm anxious to already dig in, but I still have [i:3diglmmm]Fevre Dream[/i:3diglmmm] to complete, and three PKD books from the library as well. To top it all off, I still have [i:3diglmmm]The Warrior Prophet[/i:3diglmmm] and [i:3diglmmm]The Thousandfold Thought[/i:3diglmmm] to also read, which I wish to do before the next installment is released. But, since my experiences reading [i:3diglmmm]TDTCB[/i:3diglmmm] I'm of a mindset where Scott's books is for a time when I'm ready to savour them like am exotic fruit pie or twenty talent whore. :wink: :lol: [quote="carlsefni":3diglmmm] I was going to take the slightly more charitable view that GRRM had simply gotten so wrapped up in world and story that he was simply spawning ever more side characters and side plots as he details each day's weather and menu while someone travels from somewhere to somewhere else, the reasons for doing having escaped our minds since the motive was introduced several hundred pages previously. ;) I think that must be easily done, perhaps even for an experienced novelist -- grave temptation to disappear in to minutiae that make brilliant sense to the author who is intimately aware of every facet of existence in their world and story. It's a kind of micro-management problem, I suppose. [/quote:3diglmmm] That's called milking it for all its worth, until the udder becomes barren and shrivels into a prune. Using a different perspective, its bloating the novel, like a steak 60 percent fat 35 percent meat 5 percent t-bone. Out of a thousand pages that's 350-500 worthwhile pages, the rest just unusable fluff. This is when the editor must step in with a machete and butcher it. [quote="carlsefni":3diglmmm] I've certainly committed similar sins in some of my novel project drafts, with loads of description of things that don't really advance the core plot and piles of subordinate characters popping up with their own subplot nuclei before I realize I really have nothing to do with them. :) In fact, seeing how "Ice & Fire" was developing is probably one of the things that made me stop, and go [i:3diglmmm]hmm[/i:3diglmmm], and think that I probably need a more rigourous plan/outline if I were going to produce anything vaguely sensible! [/quote:3diglmmm] Just write it all out, then do the butchering job afterwards. Both are excellent exercises. So I hear. :| [quote="carlsefni":3diglmmm] I do enjoy "Ice & Fire", and do look forward to the next installment .... But I do think some editor should step in and say: "25-50% of this draft has to go!". Save it for spin-off novellas and short stories that can obit the main series like gnarly little satellites. :mrgreen: Of course, the very fact that I still want to read the next installment despite the bloat is probably exactly why some editor isn't stepping in and doing that .... ;) [/quote:3diglmmm] Its GRRM's publisher's fault for refusing the original draft of [i:3diglmmm]A Feast for Crows[/i:3diglmmm]. They said it was too large, which to me is BS, and forced him to split it into two books. They also want to milk it for all its worth. I just think about [i:3diglmmm]War and Peace[/i:3diglmmm], The Bible, Neal Stephenson's last five novels, even [i:3diglmmm]A Storm of Swords[/i:3diglmmm], and no book is too large to bind or release. Yeah, the publishers want to also milk it for all its worth. :roll: But, at this point, and like numerous others, it won't stop me from getting the rest of the books and reading them. Btw, whenever you get a chance, read [i:3diglmmm]Fevre Dream[/i:3diglmmm]. I'm two-thirds of the way through and its already one of the best vampire stories I've ever read. The story has balls and the characters pack a stand-out punch. The writing is sharp and crisp and the dialog is sensational. Very much like what I encountered in [i:3diglmmm]A Game of Thrones[/i:3diglmmm]. I highly recommend it. Cheers. :D view post

Re: posted 13 Sep 2008, 14:09 in Philosophy Discussionthe bible is the solution by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="Mandati Wannabe":1aaqwsyv] The God itself, nowhere in the Bible, has told us that we MUST do something, or face eternal damnation. One of the most fundamental parts of the faith is, or should be, due to the writings in their own scriptures, that [i:1aaqwsyv]each and every one of us[/i:1aaqwsyv] has free will, and thus a [i:1aaqwsyv]choice[/i:1aaqwsyv]. Nothing is more important to God. We all have to choose, of our own volition, to either believe or not to believe. This extends to anything. God quite literally allows us to do anything we please, be it kindness, or harming each other, or editing the words of a paper. If God "proved" its existence to any of us, that would be [i:1aaqwsyv]forcing us to believe[/i:1aaqwsyv], and that is not the kind of worship that God desires. [/quote:1aaqwsyv] I think you hit the nail on the head. Free Will is the key. It is up for us to decide what we do with our own life. This is the greatest gift we were given. [quote="dirk69er":1aaqwsyv] why would God allow a man who was described as upright before the eyes of God, to suffer evil?[/quote:1aaqwsyv] To test our faith. Most of the time a smooth ride in life doesn't allow for personal or spiritual growth. A catalyst of some sort is needed to give that push, the motivation, the obstacles needed to overcome... with this overcoming usually sprouts growth. Ask yourself, do you notice yourself personally grow when faced with obstacles and challenges, or when faced with idleness and complacency? [quote="Israfel":1aaqwsyv] It's all about Christ/God inside you. [/quote:1aaqwsyv] I completely agree. Recognize this, and also recognize this in everyone and everything else. How you treat yourself is the same as how you treat God. How you treat others is the same as how you treat God. How you treat an animal, even an inanimate object is the same as how you treat God. Jesus Christ taught a simple formula on how to treat others: peace and kindness, love and forgiveness. This must be how God wishes to be treated. We have the gift of free will to decide. That's my take on life and what I learned from the Bible. Just remember, no matter what you do or how you live your life Sweet Sejenus still loves you. Cheers :D view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 14 Sep 2008, 13:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":313hoyea] Ah, it makes me feel so good that I'm not actually farther behind in Scott's books than absolutely everyone else! :lol: I have had least acquired and read [i:313hoyea]The Warrior Prophet[/i:313hoyea]. Alas, the way things are, I don't know when I'll be able to score a copy of [i:313hoyea]TTT[/i:313hoyea], so you may well yet get there ahead of me![/quote:313hoyea] I started reading [i:313hoyea]The Darkness That Comes Before[/i:313hoyea] sometime in May/June 2003 and finished it in August 2008. At my pace, I'll be done [i:313hoyea]The Warrior Prophet[/i:313hoyea] when the first book of the [b:313hoyea]third[/b:313hoyea] trilogy is released :? :lol: In the meantime, I've almost completed [i:313hoyea]Fevre Dream[/i:313hoyea], then after its these three PKD books I checked out from the library: [img:313hoyea][/img:313hoyea] [img:313hoyea][/img:313hoyea] [img:313hoyea][/img:313hoyea] view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 18 Sep 2008, 22:09 in Philosophy DiscussionZeitgeist by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="ThePrinceofNothing":s0ceszgn]The whole deal about the North American Union is untrue. It wasn't signed, and it's really not as bad as that movie makes it out to be.[/quote:s0ceszgn] The North American gov't hasn't exactly come about yet, but the steps towards the superstate integration began with NAFTA and its tribunal systems and, its most recent steps, is with the Security and Prosperity Partnership. The next major steps towards integration are with the NAFTA superhighway and the adoption of a new currency to replace the 3 countries currencies, named the [i:s0ceszgn]Amero[/i:s0ceszgn]. The European Union took many decades to come forth (and its still not fully functioning). So will the North American Union. Its only a matter of time or resistance. As for Zeitgeist: [quote="luciferi":s0ceszgn] There was some good points it had, but a lot of it was bs as well.[/quote:s0ceszgn] Like the downright utter stinky smelly sloppy bs about the similarities between Jesus and Horus. When you create a documentary movie about modern politics and begin it with incorrect garbage about religions or faiths or ancient stories, or anything to do with slandering and debunking Jesus, its best to be extremely skeptical about the entire film. What's the real agenda of the movie? To educate you about politics? Or to stimulate doubt in you about a particular faith? Imho, the maker of the movie is a lying turd, someone never to be trusted. Sure there's true points, but the majority of it is layered in diarrhea. :x Be vigilant towards these kinds of documentaries. view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 18 Sep 2008, 23:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":34sbnci7]Somewhat unexpectedly, I am currently reading English Place-name Society's [i:34sbnci7]The Place-names of Cambridgeshire and the Isle of Ely[/i:34sbnci7] which arrived on my doorstep this morning. I had ordered it back in May, and had given it up for lost months ago! Well: late is better than never! :) Not exactly a ripping yarn ;) but it does what it says on the tin.[/quote:34sbnci7] Sounds like a history class. Is this to do with your story? Researching for Celtic roots in those areas of England? For someone who enjoys Tolkien appendixes I'm not surprised you ordered this one. :P view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 18 Sep 2008, 23:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="Curethan":3c0aijkj]PKD is one of the best. *thumbs up* Quick reads too ;) now reading; Shantaram by Gregory David Roberts[/quote:3c0aijkj] Yeah, they are quick reads. I can read one of his books in a day, three days tops. [i:3c0aijkj]Valis[/i:3c0aijkj] was the only exception. There was so much deep stuff in it I put the book down many times to spend the rest of the day to contemplate on what I had read. I was like this everytime: :shock: :lol: Its ironically amazing that PKD wanted to move away from science fiction since he started writing sci-fi, yet he's considered one of the best writers ever in the sci-fi genre. Of the three PKD books I listed recently I've only read [i:3c0aijkj]Martian Time-Slip[/i:3c0aijkj]. But, from my personal collection, I also read these two this week: [img:3c0aijkj][/img:3c0aijkj] Good story, great ideas, but I felt disappointed at the way it ended. It was like... Aww man, that's it?! :cry: Phil could have really elaborated much more on the whole Earth-Luna deal. [img:3c0aijkj][/img:3c0aijkj] Just finished this bad boy today. Its one of his best. I could read it again and again and again.... its that good. :D I think I'll be moving on to [i:3c0aijkj]Now Wait For Last Year[/i:3c0aijkj]. view post

Re: The upcoming election posted 19 Sep 2008, 13:09 in Philosophy DiscussionThe upcoming election by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="Cironian":132cge9r]news about the American election, or about any of the candidates, no matter how minor or trivial, ALWAYS make the news before absolutely [i:132cge9r]anything[/i:132cge9r] about canadian politics is aired. I'm referring to the Canadian news channels. [/quote:132cge9r] That's because almost all (if not, all) TV channels are owned by foreigners to Canada. The owners probably don't even know where Canada is on the map, and probably think we're all a bunch of Inuit Eskimos living in igloos and dressed in seal skin and don't even know what a tell-a-vision box is. [quote="Cironian":132cge9r] Not only this, but they seem to extort even the most irrelevant and non-essetial tidbits of information about the candidates, to make everything seem so blatantly awful. (I believe this may be why the public is generally more reluctant to vote come the time to cast ballots.) [/quote:132cge9r] They do it in Canada also. The last time Canadian elections were going on, before Harper was PM, the Toronto Sun had a large picture of Ricky from The Trailer Park Boys TV show on the front page with a blurb that stated Ricky was a fifth cousin to Stephen Harper. The message I got from that piece of info was: Hey all you pot smokers and Trailer Park Boys lovers, vote for Stephen Harper because Ricky is related to him. Talk about irrelevancy! The irony in that message is Stephen Harper is like a Soviet iron fist towards marijuana laws. Paul Martin was willing to decriminalize marijuana, then Harper steps in and builds a wall against it, yet his fifth cousin's role in a TV show is a pot-smoking, pot-growing, highly-irresponsible, trouble-making, prison-loving alcoholic. Go figure. Anyhow... US politics is a sham and the elections are a fraud. Canada is no better in those areas either. I will vote, but I'm voting Green party. They're probably a sham also, but, at least, they want to decriminalize marijuana and possibly legalize it. There's just too many pros about that plant, besides smoking it, and its long overdue that we take advantage of it. Its ironically amusing that the US Declaration of Independence is written on hemp paper and their first president grew fields of hemp and marijuana, and even smoked it. :lol: :lol: :lol: Anyways. I think Obama will win. Not that it matters. Or something crazy will happen before election day or inauguration day that the psychotic Bush mob will suspend elections and rule for another 100 years. :shock: :P view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 20 Sep 2008, 13:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":kpc7x2sq] (Not so many Celtic names survive in that part of England, really -- and those that exist are mostly larger watercourses, which are the sorts of things that tend to resist renaming. Most places have Anglo-Saxon names, with a scattering of Scandinavian names.)[/quote:kpc7x2sq] I once read that "Sutherland" means the "South Land", and Sutherland is the name of an area at the northern point of Scotland, which is the northern country of Great Britain. I always thought that to be extremely interesting, like it suggests that the land of Great Britain was much larger once upon a time, and something happened to inundate the land area north of Scotland. I mentioned this to an Irish friend and he stated that area of Sutherland was once named by the Vikings as the South Land. And the phrase "the luck of the Irish" has more to do with Ireland not going under more than anything else. He strongly believes Great Britain was once a much larger land mass, possibly a large chain of islands that stretched up north and west and connected to Scandinavian lands, Iceland, and Greenland. Its an incredible thought. Worthy of tales of tell. [quote="carlsefni":kpc7x2sq] Actually, now that I think of it, I did once have a concept for the novel project to use the geography and names of New England, but take all the English-derived names and put them back in their Anglo-Saxon forms, and take all the Native American names and translate them (more or less) into Celtic! :roll: I eventually ditched the idea because I ended up spending too much effort trying to fit my story into the geography instead of just making some geography that suited the story, but it was an interesting exercise creating a hybrid New/Old England. Still, it was a lesson to me not to let world-building get in the way of the story (much though I still like the world-building!).[/quote:kpc7x2sq] I know what you mean about the world-building getting in the way of the story... I tried something similar many years ago with a fantasy story idea I had, but I created a world from scratch, and only gave up because of the tediousness (and the distraction of women). Although, world-building is half the fun. Once you have that world built numerous stories can spawn from it. I guess its best to separate story from the world; build the world, then apply the story (I attempted the reverse). I hope Scott pumps out a completely separate story with separate characters in his world, like what GRRM did with the Hedge Knight tales. view post

Re: Who would you cast in a Prince of Nothing movie? posted 25 Sep 2008, 14:09 in General DiscusssionWho would you cast in a Prince of Nothing movie? by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I've only read TDTCB, so here's how I'd cast a movie for that story only.... Cnaiür = Val Kilmer (Ever watch 'Felon'? He looks huge, esp. in comparison to Stephen Dorff. He has the deep voice, and the patient suspicious vicious stare. Plus that passive-aggressive demeanor where he's ultra calm one moment, and could snap with terror and über violence the next. Just toss long black hair on him and numerous swazonds, and you'll have a true [b:2qciulhn]mad[/b:2qciulhn] Madmartigan.) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Esmenet = Monica Belluci (Excellent choice! A worthy twelve talent whore) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Serwë = Jessica Biel (Someone who looks and would act more beautiful than everyone else around. Suppose to be more beautiful than Esmenet. Its a tough call. :P ) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Drusus Achamian = Gary Oldman (Gary is a natural at [b:2qciulhn]truly[/b:2qciulhn] playing different roles, and Akka does so/has to. Plus, Gary is great at playing the nervous fumbling type who can hide great power.) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Ikurei Istriya = Michelle Pfeiffer (Ever watch 'Stardust'? Gorgeous old wench of a witch! She can be sad and grievous, confident and ecstatic, slutty and whorish, deceptive and cunning. All in one package. Perfect!) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Ikurei Xerius III = Daniel Day-Lewis (Power hungry evil conniving looking motherfucka like Bill 'The Butcher' Cutting. A perfect fit! But getting him to play in a role is like pulling out your own teeth with toothpicks. Otherwise, Andy 'Gollum' Serkis would fit: "my precious" = The Nansurian Empire. "You will give the precious back. It belongs to me! To meeeeeeeeeeeeee!!" ) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Skeaös = Christopher Lee (Old enough, and has that 'boyish' look upon his face as described in TDTCB. He could also make a good Nautzera) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] ...while we're on the LotR theme... Nersei Calmemunis = Viggo Mortensen (Send the vulgar prince bastard to his death! You were never worthy of being king to begin with! :x ) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] The next two I take straight out of the movie 'The Count of Monte Cristo' Nersei Proyas = James Caviezel ('Princely'-like. Can project uncertainty at times, and still retain his royal-demeanor. Like his role in Monte Cristo. A good fit. Rufus Sewell is also a good choice. Either would fit well.) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Ikurei Conphas = Guy Pearce (Excellent at portraying assertiveness, sureness, and egotism, like his role in 'Death Defying Acts' as Houdini. And deceitful and wicked enough to hint at drawing out his ceremonial dagger any second to dispose of Xerius. Such as his role in Monte Cristo. A great fit! His 'royal-like' accent alone is worthy of the role. A great alternative for Proyas also. Any princely role in PoN, imho.) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Mallahet = Ray Park (The perfect creep. Like his roles as Darth Maul, and The Toad in X-men.) [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] Cutias Sarcellus = Russell Crowe (Slimy bastard. I can't help but picture him doing the acts described on pg. 328 of TDTCB, where his head snaps to the side, his limbs pop rigid, then begins to experience "searing rapture". Hehehe. I don't know if he's tall enough for the role though. Or Russell could just play the Architect in crow(e) form. Either way, he's a good choice for a powerful slimy bastard role. Probably too expensive to cast anyways) Last, but definately not least... Anasûrimbor Kellhus = R. Scott Bakker. The man himself!!! Better start pumping iron Scott! You have to look über bad-ass in that one scene where you lift and hold that big brutish mofo Cnaiür over a cliff's edge with one arm! Let alone bash and break him in unarmed combat just before that. :P To top it all off like a cherry, the irresistable Serwë/Jessica Biel pressed up against you, worshiping you every second of the way. :P [img:2qciulhn][/img:2qciulhn] view post

Re: Who would you cast in a Prince of Nothing movie? posted 26 Sep 2008, 21:09 in General DiscusssionWho would you cast in a Prince of Nothing movie? by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I apologize for including in-movie photos. I did some editing and replaced them. view post

Re: Cnaiur Badass Quote! posted 27 Sep 2008, 13:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnaiur Badass Quote! by Cnaiür, Peralogue

That's an excellent quote from TDTCB. That entire scene in the Privy Gardens is excellent. I want to add another one from the Gardens scene (pg. 527): "You would sound me. Make clear the riddle of the Scylvendi heart. But you use your own hearts to map mine.You see a man abased before you, Xunnurit. A man bound to me by kinship of blood. What an offense this must be, you say. His heart [i:1ux5r47h]must[/i:1ux5r47h] cry for vengeance.And you say this because [i:1ux5r47h]your[/i:1ux5r47h] heart would so cry. But my heart is not your heart. This is why it is a riddle to you." "You killed the Sapatishah's son?" "Eventually," the Scylvendi said. "First I made him sing." Something Achamian said about Scylvendi (pg. 453): "Does a Momic Priest hate the bull whose throat he cuts? No. For the Scylvendi, remember, the whole world is a sacrificial altar, and we're simply the ritual victims." view post

Re: posted 30 Sep 2008, 00:09 in Literature DiscussionBarker, Butcher, Gaiman by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="noodles0585":2yhd6pvp]american gods by neil gaiman was fantastic.[/quote:2yhd6pvp] I agree. The concept/theme of the story is what makes it all worthwhile. It was a nice twist at the end to add the main character to that main thread running through it. It left me contemplating for quite some time, mainly because the main character's name is Shadow, which carries much symbolism and psychological connotations, and to bring him to [i:2yhd6pvp]that[/i:2yhd6pvp] level... very interesting indeed. :) I read Neverwhere after that and I was just so disappointed and turned-off I banned him. That is, until he authors a sequel to [i:2yhd6pvp]American Gods[/i:2yhd6pvp] starring the main character. Now, Clive Barker is someone who's works I have enjoyed a lot. Especially [i:2yhd6pvp]Imagica[/i:2yhd6pvp], [i:2yhd6pvp]Sacrament[/i:2yhd6pvp], [i:2yhd6pvp]Gallilee[/i:2yhd6pvp], and many of his short stories. His fluid writing-style is what I enjoy the most. :) view post

Re: just wanted to share with you guys... posted 03 Oct 2008, 23:10 in Off-Topic Discussionjust wanted to share with you guys... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

The first painting is creepy. Is that someone in real life you just don't like? :| The subconscious has a tendency to manifest itself through artwork. Perhaps, its your genetic memories of the ol' viking days shining through. I certainly wouldn't want to take you on even with a full suit of plate armor. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a couple of tarantulas as pets. Intriguing artwork. :) view post

Re: just wanted to share with you guys... posted 04 Oct 2008, 23:10 in Off-Topic Discussionjust wanted to share with you guys... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Cats are my favourite, any size and colour. :) Perhaps, you should capture those adorable kittens of yours onto canvas before they mature. Remember, they're only kittens once. After that, they're either satanically possessed or Christ blessed. Or old. :P Btw, in that sword-swinging pic, what is in your other hand? It almost looks like a plunger, but I'm guessing its a short spear. Or a single-bladed axe of sorts. :? view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 04 Oct 2008, 23:10 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

This book kept appearing in front of my attention over the last three months and I kept ignoring it, thinking its just a joke, you know, just [i:pn86upxd]another[/i:pn86upxd] lame ass self-help book only there for profits. It appeared too much in front of my eyes that I just couldn't ignore it any longer. I must say, the only regret I have is not reading it three months ago. It's a non-fiction, better-yourself book, highly concentrated with Buddhism-wisdom and techniques. After only trying out a handful of techniques for four days now, I already notice a considerable difference in my life and my thinking patterns. I feel better than I did last week, I met a couple of positive people that entered my life only these last three days, and someone who I had beef with is now talking to me again. More importantly, my thinking patterns appear to be improved and my self-awareness seems to have heightened. Truly, I highly recommend this book to anyone and everyone. [img:pn86upxd][/img:pn86upxd] view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 06 Oct 2008, 22:10 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":3ew40dnc](Re [i:3ew40dnc]The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari[/i:3ew40dnc]) I think I read at least some of the Spanish language version, too, and remember it seeming like pretty sensible stuff. [/quote:3ew40dnc] I recommend you read the entire book. Its only 200 pages. [quote="carlsefni":3ew40dnc] If only I had a Ferrari to sell! That would definitely pay for a sizeable international book order from Amazon! :mrgreen:[/quote:3ew40dnc] Don't we all. :D Plus a large wall-sized redwood Victorian bookshelf to boot. The only difference between us and this lawyer-turned-monk is he has all the money he needs to live his life in utter peace and travel anywhere he wishes, meanwhile, I'm scraping for change just to get bread crumbs on the table, let alone enough change for a trip into the city. :roll: Regardless, its truly a beneficial read. view post

Re: Who Am I? posted 06 Oct 2008, 22:10 in Philosophy DiscussionWho Am I? by Cnaiür, Peralogue

The purpose of life is your life's purpose. Once you figure that out you will know who you are. :) As a whole, we are aspects of the Divine Creator experiencing itself. ;) view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 12 Oct 2008, 02:10 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="carlsefni":25rp205t] Perhaps self-help books -- even good ones -- tend to be written by those who truly suffer some sort of spiritual turmoil or lack and then find a solution or way to overcome the difficulty -- and [i:25rp205t]then[/i:25rp205t] have enough money to sit around writing a book about it! [/quote:25rp205t] It doesn't sound like the author suffered any setbacks in his life, he just got into the groove. Unless he was bullied and beat up throughout high school. :P The lawyer-turned-monk is just a character the author created to drive the wisdom and techniques home. It works extremely well. [quote="carlsefni":25rp205t] Clearly I have erred by not obsessing with superficial materialism early on so that I could enjoy a later spiritual awakening in comfort .... ;) [/quote:25rp205t] You're a couple of steps ahead of most people. Personally, I stand far from the fence of superficiality and materialism (but I love my book collection! :D) I don't know if I'm suffering from spiritual turmoil, but contemplating the wisdom and trying out some techniques has uplifted my life in ways, in certain areas. I think I just had a few too many negative thoughts theories and ideas streamlining the frontal lobe of my brain which has kept me down like a beaten dog. The technique Opposition Thinking is the one I've been mainly using: whenever a negative thought enters my brain I immediately replace it with a positive thought. Then I improve that positive thought with an even better thought. Such a simple technique is working wonders for me. :) Bottom line, its not really a self-help book. Its more of a be-the-best-you-can-be type of book. Anyhow... I've read this one recently. I had to lift the three-year-long ban on Chuck for this one and surprisingly, it was worth it. Not the most positive of books, but it was funny and entertaining, and had me thinking for some time about a couple of its crazy ideas. If anyone reads this or has read this one I wish to direct your attention to the last 3 entries in Chapter 41. Chuck himself is sending a very clear message to you the reader. :lol: [img:25rp205t][/img:25rp205t] PKD is still vibing with me, so I pulled this one from my bookshelf, and will teleport into it real soon. Oh yeah! :D :D :D [img:25rp205t][/img:25rp205t] view post

Re: The Judging Eye posted 26 Oct 2008, 15:10 in The Judging EyeThe Judging Eye by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I hope there will be a trade paperback release in tradition to the first three books. :| view post

Re: The upcoming election posted 26 Oct 2008, 16:10 in Philosophy DiscussionThe upcoming election by Cnaiür, Peralogue

The only reason the Republicans could win is because the people of the U.S. wish to see an attractive female politician sitting in Dick's position. :wink: [img:22psuva2][/img:22psuva2] [img:22psuva2][/img:22psuva2] [img:22psuva2][/img:22psuva2] [img:22psuva2][/img:22psuva2] Schwing :mrgreen: view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 26 Oct 2008, 16:10 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

What a jaw-breaking yawn! [img:8cfzmn9r][/img:8cfzmn9r] A young Chinese male goes "moon fishing" somewhere in China, gets bit by something, goes back to his village, and ever since, all out global depopulation via zombie infestation and invasion. In the end, less than 10% of Earth's population remain and most of the zombies are destroyed. Yay. I feel ashamed and embarrassed to admit I read this book from beginning to end. :oops: view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 31 Oct 2008, 02:10 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Now reading this one, by the author that wrote [i:17wihf64]The Prestige[/i:17wihf64] which was made into an extraordinary movie starring Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale and Michael Caine. This one though is a plain and simple read, but the world its set in is a bizarre, logic-defying one. Only halfway through it. [img:17wihf64][/img:17wihf64] view post

Re: I don't understand how the word 'will' is being used posted 03 Nov 2008, 15:11 in NeuropathI don't understand how the word 'will' is being used by Cnaiür, Peralogue

How do you explain near-death experiences, where people speak of seeing themselves leave their body, such as those who die on the operating table and see their body being operated on and watch doctors electrocute them back to life, which causes them to jerk back into their own body. Are these people deluded? Dreaming? Or, is that their soul that temporarily left their physical body? Topics of consciousness and the soul has been around for thousands of years. Modern science is still playing catch up with their gadgets and math. And black holes are just a theory, nothing more. Its amusing to witness people believe in these and not believe in a soul. Perhaps, they are just caught in the event horizon of the black hole in their conditioned brain. Free Will is real, and one of the greatest gifts we have. Test this reality out by making a decision right now. Choose to reply or not. Choose to get up from that chair or not. Choose to recall a happy memory or a sad one or no memory. Even God made the decision to create, and made the decision to pass on free will to his creations. To think free will is an illusion is to delude yourself into being powerless, and to wipe away responsibility from your own actions. Stand up and be a man. You have the free will to decide. You also have the free will to nullify free will as merely an illusion. The irony is amazing, isn't it. You decide. view post

Re: I don't understand how the word 'will' is being used posted 05 Nov 2008, 18:11 in NeuropathI don't understand how the word 'will' is being used by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="Tilberian":y6vi5ie6]Spare me your medieval fantasies. There is no God.[/quote:y6vi5ie6] You're right. Black holes are real. The two of you are in a league beyond me. I just want to steer this train back onto the free will track by saying ... science has proved numerous times that free will is very real, by creating technologies and perfecting various techniques that can [i:y6vi5ie6]influence[/i:y6vi5ie6] and [i:y6vi5ie6] suppress[/i:y6vi5ie6] the free will of an individual. view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 05 Nov 2008, 23:11 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Now reading [i:3bx9ra2i]Isle of the Dead[/i:3bx9ra2i]. Humourous and witty sci-fi that knows no bounds. Reminiscent of a psychedelic vision quest. I joyfully laugh and trip out. :lol: [img:3bx9ra2i][/img:3bx9ra2i] view post

Re: The Judging Eye posted 18 Nov 2008, 13:11 in The Judging EyeThe Judging Eye by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Aldarion, how in the world did you get a copy of [i:17m7ywdq]The Judging Eye[/i:17m7ywdq]? view post

Re: What if I told you, that nothing is real? posted 25 Nov 2008, 02:11 in Philosophy DiscussionWhat if I told you, that nothing is real? by Cnaiür, Peralogue

If nothing is real, then everything is an illusion. I've heard this perception many times, and I do find it plausible. I read something a while back about what Nikola Tesla concluded which I find myself agreeing to. He stated everything, from matter to energy, are just different manifestations of the same source/force. He labelled this source as the Divine Mind. In a way, this conclusion states the Divine Mind (or God/Creator/etc...) is the only thing real, and everything else is but a projection/illusion/hologram stemming from that source. view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 29 Nov 2008, 03:11 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I picked up these two from a used bookstore for a few bucks, and they were both a laughing pleasure to read. I highly recommend both of them. [img:2arcaji1][/img:2arcaji1] [i:2arcaji1]Lord of Light[/i:2arcaji1] was a comical satire starring the Hindu pantheon where one of them decides to rebel against the other gods and creates the Buddhism religion/philosophy to oppose their Hindu religion. Zelazny does a great job, and its no wonder the novel won an award. [img:2arcaji1][/img:2arcaji1] [i:2arcaji1]The Big U[/i:2arcaji1] was a hilarious and outlandish university campus satire, and in true Neal Stephenson style, the story reaches the point of all out war. The scene of S.S. Krupp's speech on autonomy and the following question/answer period had me laughing to the point of tears. Neal Stephenson is a one of a kind. He's brilliant. One of my top favourite authors. view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 29 Nov 2008, 14:11 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Can it be?... no... really?.... i don't believe it... are you serious?... you're pulling my leg... really?... you're joking.... no way.... really?? well, its about time!!! [img:2j4n9okc][/img:2j4n9okc] Yes, it's that time. view post

Re: The Judging Eye posted 08 Dec 2008, 14:12 in The Judging EyeThe Judging Eye by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Jan 20, 2009 release date for us Canadians. I just placed a pre-order for the paperback edition. :D [img:czuf2ctk][/img:czuf2ctk] view post

Bashrag posted 13 Dec 2008, 23:12 in The Warrior ProphetBashrag by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I'm only a 1/3 through [i:d82z3e5a]The Warrior Prophet[/i:d82z3e5a], so I'm probably getting ahead of myself here, but what in the world of Eärwa is a bashrag? They are one of the 3 races created by the Consult (or the Inchoroi, I forget) along with Wracu and Sranc. [i:d82z3e5a]The Warrior Prophet[/i:d82z3e5a] only has a one liner about them "beating the ground with their hammers." At first, I think giants. [i:d82z3e5a]The Thousandfold Thought[/i:d82z3e5a] has no entry about them in its extensive glossary. Any ideas? If they appear later, then just say so without spoiling anything for me. Much appreciated. view post

Re: The Consult behind the Chuch of England's new ad campaign posted 18 Dec 2008, 02:12 in General DiscusssionThe Consult behind the Chuch of England's new ad campaign by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Church is the key word. And we should all know where the headquarters are at. What's that infamous saying.... all roads lead to Rome.... errrr.... I mean Babylon: city of seven hills. In its heart you'll find the Consult whore. :twisted: Damn Consult propaganda. :evil: view post

Re: Bashrag posted 18 Dec 2008, 02:12 in The Warrior ProphetBashrag by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Ok. It seems like they are but a myth in Eärwa, and only make brief appearances in the Mandate dream. I can see why its not listed in the TTT glossary. Thanks. I hope to be caught up by [i:3g1q7wv3]The Judging Eye[/i:3g1q7wv3]'s release. :) view post

Re: The Judging Eye posted 15 Jan 2009, 19:01 in The Judging EyeThe Judging Eye by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I am filled with one of the seven deadly sins right now........ [b:226hvhum]envy[/b:226hvhum] :evil: I should be getting my copy in a week's time. Maybe. Hopefully. :roll: view post

Re: The Judging Eye posted 17 Jan 2009, 14:01 in The Judging EyeThe Judging Eye by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Perhaps, its time to rename this forum section to "[i:64qpra1g]The Judging Eye[/i:64qpra1g]" spoiler forum. :| view post

Re: The Judging Eye posted 17 Jan 2009, 14:01 in The Judging EyeThe Judging Eye by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Sweet loving Sejenus. What a loving surprise I received in my email today.... "Your order was shipped." :D view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 18 Jan 2009, 15:01 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Isûphiryas... you almost sound like me, splayed out in the middle of several books, and series. Like attending a buffet and filling up a large dinner plate with everything and only eating bits of each, not quite finishing it all. :lol: I'm in the middle of [i:1x1rgxrt]The Lies of Locke Lamara[/i:1x1rgxrt] (a great read, much better than I expected), [i:1x1rgxrt]Just After Sunset[/i:1x1rgxrt] (latest Stephen King. I only ever read his short stories now, because those are the only ones that end well), [i:1x1rgxrt]Picoverse[/i:1x1rgxrt] (Hard science fiction. Metzger's award-winning first novel. His second novel, [i:1x1rgxrt]Cusp[/i:1x1rgxrt], was mind-blowing. Once he improves his characterization he will be a juggernaut force to reckon with), [i:1x1rgxrt]Myths From Mesopatamia[/i:1x1rgxrt] (truly, there's nothing better than the real stories of humanity's past), and... :oops: [i:1x1rgxrt]The Warrior Prophet[/i:1x1rgxrt] -- still going. There's just something about Bakker's writing and story-telling that moves me to savour and contemplate upon everything. Like rowing a boat. Like the female body. I don't ever want it to end. :D I'm so excited about getting [i:1x1rgxrt]The Judging Eye[/i:1x1rgxrt] yet I haven't even finished reading [i:1x1rgxrt]The Warrior Prophet[/i:1x1rgxrt]. But, lemme tell you, there's already a nice cozy spot on my special (elite!) bookshelf awaiting its arrival. 8) Don't feel so bad carlsefni, there's someone lagging even more than you. :roll: :lol: :oops: And, Curethan, reading [i:1x1rgxrt]The Judging Eye[/i:1x1rgxrt] [b:1x1rgxrt]again[/b:1x1rgxrt]! :o Must you rub it in! :cry: view post

Re: Now listening to... posted 20 Apr 2009, 13:04 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow listening to... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

Pearl Jam - Brother (It feels good to hear some old and edgy Pearl Jam music) Also been recently listening to the side projects of the ex members of Jane's Addiction (Deconstruction [Eric & Dave], Satellite Party [Perry], and Polar Bear [Eric]) view post

Re: Now Reading... posted 20 Apr 2009, 13:04 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

I've been so busy these last 3 months that I've barely had the time to read much of anything; 20 pages here, 10 there... not really my kind of style. I prefer a good sitting of 50+ pages. I did manage to complete reading these in the last three months: [img:nq5picml][/img:nq5picml] Excellent first book! The first 20 pages were sketchy, but the next 500 were absorbing and very entertaining. Scott shows no remorse toward his characters. I look forward to the next installment. [img:nq5picml][/img:nq5picml] Downright morbid! It taught me the lesson to never take orders from the Roman Church, even if you're a Priest or Jesuit. If you do... :roll: :cry: God bless you on your journey through the hells and perils of Earth. [img:nq5picml][/img:nq5picml] By far, King's best short story collection. This was my second read through it, the first 15 years ago. "Gray Matter" = :lol: :lol: :lol: [img:nq5picml][/img:nq5picml] Not as clever, intriguing, or entertaining as Night Shift. Although, "The Ballad of the Flexible Bullet" was one of the best short stories I've ever read by any author. I'm still 200 pages into [i:nq5picml]The Warrior Prophet[/i:nq5picml]. :oops: The same thing appears to be happening to me that TDTCB did to me... I became overwhelmed at a certain point in the book that I just had to put it down and contemplate on all I read... I completed it 5 years later. :roll: With TWP, it was the beginning stages of Kellhus becoming a Jesus/Sejenus-like prophet, spreading his wisdom to all those that care to listen. If all Dunyain monks went into the world there would be hundreds of The Second Coming of Christ sightings. :lol: Truly, Bakker's books has incredible depth. Anyhow... I'm not reading anything right now. I look at my bookshelf and my eyes look upon TWP and I keep thinking... I just have to read that one. I just have to. Do it. Do it! But then my guard falls and my eyeballs stray several inches to the right where my PKD collection begins... :roll: view post

Re: Favourite quotes, lyrics or just words..... posted 22 Apr 2009, 18:04 in Off-Topic DiscussionFavourite quotes, lyrics or just words..... by Cnaiür, Peralogue

All time favourite quote. Of all places, I found it on a Magic: The Gathering playing card: "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 23 Jun 2009, 18:06 in Philosophy DiscussionZeitgeist by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="avatar_of_existence":2ujrtgy3]Are you a Christian Cnaiur? I'm not gonna judge or be all preachy if you are, my best friends are all christians and I wish I could believe too. Just curious. [/quote:2ujrtgy3] Yes, I consider myself of Christian faith, with an open mind towards new (old) age/spirituality. I consider Jesus to be an extraordinary [i:2ujrtgy3]man[/i:2ujrtgy3], who had some incredibly profound lessons to teach us: peace and kindness, love and forgiveness, and gratitude, with a specific focus on gratitude and forgiveness. I can only speak for myself here, so I will... I believe intensely that these lessons Jesus taught people to live by are the best and most appropriate ways to live/be if you wish to spiritually evolve in the whole cosmic scope of life. Otherwise, you're just going to come back to this level/stage/dimension of life to try all over again. I find myself being insulted when others try to debunk Jesus as a figment of the imagination, especially when the debunking is being propagated on a large scale, like movies and documentaries. By instilling this into people's minds people will most likely turn a blind eye to Jesus, thereby, never allowing themselves the opportunity to learn about who he was nor the lessons he taught. With Zeitgeist, that subversive idiot tried to debunk Jesus by comparing him to the Egyptian legend of Horus. Almost every point he made to compare the two was false. Just this alone classifies Zeitgeist as a movie (fiction), not a documentary (non-fiction). I've noticed throughout all my life that there have been numerous attempts, methods, agendas to debunk and/or pervert Jesus. Unfortunately, people are falling for it. Its a shame when someone states Jesus is a fraud or a cool guy and so on, yet, they've never opened up the New Testament, let alone read the four Gospels. Truly, people really are missing out on incredible lessons in those four books, lessons your local magazine stand or tell-a-vision box, even your local book store, don't teach. Just to digress a bit... Terry Goodkind wrote an eleven book series called the [i:2ujrtgy3]Sword of Truth[/i:2ujrtgy3] series. The first book is titled [i:2ujrtgy3]Wizard's First Rule[/i:2ujrtgy3]. Each book reveals a Wizard's Rule. The Wizard's First Rule is this: "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid. they will believe a lie because they want to believe its true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." "People need an enemy to feel a sense of purpose. Its easy to lead people when they have a sense of purpose. Sense of purpose is more important by far than the truth. In fact, truth has no bearing in this. People are stupid, they want to believe, so they do." Its obvious to me, with the political situations across this planet, and with movies and documentaries such as Zeitgeist, that this rule is being applied, and people are falling for it. I will even admit that I could very well be one of those people. There's a good saying (I forget who coined it): "The lie is different at every level." That's it for now. Somebody gave me a copy of Religulous to watch. I have yet to, because, fortunately for me, Bill has been on my shitlist for years, so I expect nothing more than garbage from him, and I don't want to waste my time watching garbage. Thanks luciferi for clarifying the obvious expectation from Bill. I hope others who watch that garbage can also see it for what it is, and more importantly, see Bill Maher for the distortion he is. view post

Video Interview with Scott, in Croatia posted 03 Aug 2009, 17:08 in Interviews and ReviewsVideo Interview with Scott, in Croatia by Cnaiür, Peralogue ... rview.html view post


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