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Battle of Titans posted 19 Nov 2005, 11:11 by kevin, Commoner

I still have about 100 pages left in Warrior Prophet, but I had to write and tell you that was the best fight scene ever. It wasnt Kellus catching arrows , it was that little @#$% doll versus the tabby. What concerns me is that after Akka and Xin escape there was no mention of the Wathi Doll. Did he save it along with Xin? And also, do all you have to do is speak its name and it will come to you, no matter the distance ? view post

posted 19 Nov 2005, 21:11 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Yea I was wondering what happened to the Wathi doll as well, that was one of the coolest "little" things in the books in my opinion. It just seemed so damn devious :) view post

posted 20 Nov 2005, 10:11 by zarathustra, Peralogue

Yes I see the potential for a spin-off series... view post

posted 21 Nov 2005, 16:11 by Atropos, Commoner

Anyone know if I can buy one on Ebay? j/k But seriously though...some voodoo woman needs to make one for me. I would agree, if not go further in saying that was probably my favorite scene in the whole book. When the doll scratched out the words on the floor...brilliant. You should have seen the grin on my face--ear to ear. view post

posted 21 Nov 2005, 18:11 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

The first time I read the book and came to that point (the Wathi Doll breaking the circle) my grin went from ear to ear as started playing in my head and I kept thinking "Uh oh, looks like the Scarlet Spires are gonna be on the receiving end of some Mandate whoop-ass." And not just your regular Mandate whoop-ass but held in confinement and tortured mercilessly Mandati orchestrated whoop-ass. :) I nearly cried for the sheer pleasure of it. Totally awesome sequence of events. view post

posted 22 Nov 2005, 05:11 by Da-krul, Auditor

Yeah, I love that part. First time I read that the circle was broken I nearly fell over giggling in anticipation :D and by the by Atropos is my favorite hero in Dota :D With him I make entire teams leave :P view post

posted 23 Nov 2005, 00:11 by sciborg2, Candidate

[quote:30y5k2z7]Anyone know if I can buy one on Ebay? j/k But seriously though...some voodoo woman needs to make one for me. [/quote:30y5k2z7] Voodoo has little to do with dolls at all, in fact I am not sure if there is any connection between the bullshit you see on TV and the actual faith. There are animal sacrifices admittedly, and some dark 'sorcery', but the important thing to remember is that Touissant L'Oveture was the leader of the Voodoo rebels that overthrew the Christian slavemasters. Its empowering, Afrocentric theology has been diluted I suspect, but the hope it gave many is evident in Haiti's successful rebellion. Not that any of this is meant in anger....just tired so apologize if information is presented in abrasive manner. view post

posted 25 Nov 2005, 15:11 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

It's an old comic book tactic, burying the ultimate fate of certain things in ambiguity. I think the Wathi doll is cool as well, though my favourite part, writing-wise, is the section where Serwe watches it animate for the first time - proving that Kellhus is one of the few. view post

posted 25 Nov 2005, 16:11 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

I loved the description of the Wathi doll animating, with the spirt's face pressing against the fabric, excellent detail. view post

posted 26 Nov 2005, 16:11 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Yea, although it was slightly different and not nearly as cool :) The Wathi doll seems almost tragic in a way, since I'm quite sure the soul isn't trapped inside by choice. In the Malazan series of course Hairlock was there by choice. view post

posted 28 Nov 2005, 04:11 by Atropos, Commoner

Don't worry about it sciborg2, it's always refreshing to learn something new =) I've been having an internal debate on whether it would be cool to have my soul trapped in a doll or not. I still haven't made up my mind. I'll have to think about it a while longer. view post

posted 29 Nov 2005, 04:11 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Indeed I have fortyseven, indeed I have. I have a feeling you may be about to remind me of some funky doll magic that I have forgotten :) Both Bonehunters and TTT shall be out after christmas, I can hardly wait. view post

posted 01 Dec 2005, 14:12 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Ahhh yes, Talamandas is quite cool I must admit, but the Wathi doll IMHO is even cooler :) Good job as always Scott. *Goes back to eagerly waiting for TTT* view post

posted 02 Dec 2005, 04:12 by fortyseven, Commoner

joins Entropic eagerly awaiting TTT (as well as TB) view post

posted 02 Dec 2005, 04:12 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

I should pick up A Feast for Crows to tide me over for a little bit, but I'll finish that in a few days. Just no books other than TTT and TBH that I am looking forward to right now. view post

posted 02 Dec 2005, 18:12 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

I'm hearing some bad things about AFFC... It's bumming me out. view post

posted 03 Dec 2005, 01:12 by Tol h'Eddes, Auditor

[quote="Cu'jara Cinmoi":1eq74gps]I'm hearing some bad things about AFFC... It's bumming me out.[/quote:1eq74gps] Bad news? Sorry to be so curious but what kind of bad news? view post

posted 04 Dec 2005, 05:12 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Hmmmmm I'll be pretty bummed if the book is bad. I have to pick it up anyway, because I can never leave a series part way through. :) view post

posted 09 Dec 2005, 14:12 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

I'll be reading it over the holidays. But as far as hearsay goes, I seem to be hearing some lukewarm stuff, mostly of the 'he's losing control of the story variety...' But it's generally good reading a highly anticipated book with low expectations. view post

posted 11 Dec 2005, 04:12 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

true, I fly back to the maritimes next monday and will pick it up that night for some holiday reading view post

About AFFC - (Minor spoilers) posted 11 Dec 2005, 09:12 by Kidruhil Lancer, Auditor

Having read the book, I think most of the problem people might have with it is that Feast and the next book, Dance with Dragons, are set in the same space of time, each taking place in different locations. Like it says on his website. The downside being, of course, that most of the best characters are hardly mentioned at all. Jon is only in one scene that isn't even his POV, Arya appears in a few chapters that are really interesting but the last one ends in a pretty large cliff hanger (of course), and there is no mention of Dany and her dragons whatsoever except for what people have been hearing in rumors. But as for the story, I thought he pulled it off very well for only using some lesser known characters. Cersei finally screws herself and gets some of what's coming to her, Brienne gains alot more depth, although her fate is in question by the end of the book, and of course Samwell Tarly gets some spotlight time as well. The most amazing part, IMHO (To steal a phrase from Entropic_Existence), is the way he can turn my opinion around about characters just by writing their POV. The most dramatic case being, of course, Jaime the Kingslayer. By the end of the fourth book I really am rooting for the guy. Anyway... I don't know if this helps anyones opinion out at all. This thread is a few days old and many of you have probably read AFFC already... but there it is. view post

posted 11 Dec 2005, 23:12 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Turning your opinion about characters upside down is one of Martin's greates strengths I think, I know that by the end of the third book my view of Jaime radically changed, so I'm looking forward to what we see of him in Feast. Of course with Jaime I found it wasn't his POV that changed my opinion, it's what he actually had one of those life altering moments in book 3, that truly put him back on the "path" so to speak. view post


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