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The Daimos posted 12 Jul 2005, 01:07 by Anarion, Commoner

Please forgive me if a thread like this already exists, but I'm curious about the strange magic Iyokus used to confront Achamian in Iothiah. From the description it sounds as though it has to do with the summoning of creatures from another plane (the Ciphrang). The book also goes into the fact that the Scarlet Spires, though they could not discover the Gnosis on their own or tear it from the hearts of captured Mandati, delved into other, slightly darker knowledge. So I suppose what I'm curious about is the nature of the Daimos. Detailed descriptions from the books handle the Gnosis, the Psuke, and the Anagogic schools, and they are debated in numerous posts, but I haven't read anyone talking of the Daimos. So I have a couple of questions. 1) Where does it come from (how did the Scarlet Spires come to know of it) 2) How does it relate to the other types of sorcery? Even though the demon's power was not enough to stand against the wrath of Achamian, the ability to summon such a beast would still be a force to be reckoned with and could probably influence rivalries within the schools (perhaps it helped push the Scarlett Spires to their status as the most powerful school in the Three Seas). 3) Is the Daimos related to the Consult? It would seem like an art they would have great affinity for. I hope I didn't drag that out too much :) view post

posted 14 Jul 2005, 06:07 by Cynical Cat, Auditor

My opinions ( and I could be very wrong) are as follows: 1) They discovered it by experimentation. The Scarlett Spires is powerful and ambitious and some of them experiment with new ways of using sorcery. This is one of them. 2) It appears to be a method of using Anagogic Sorcery to summon and control demons. It also seems to only have a few practitioners among the Scarlett Spires for obvious reasons. It's also a secret practice, so it couldn't have been used publicaly. The Scarlett Spires is the largest and most power hungry school and it has ruled Ainon since the end of the last Scholastic War. It would seem to be that the spoils of war ( a large nation to recruit sorcerers from) has helped put them in their premier position. 3) The Consult is descended from a Gnostic School and their experimentations seems to be with the Tekne. That doesn't rule it out, of course. Scott certainly isn't going to tell us the answer to this one until it is answered in a book one way or another and that is the way it should be. view post

posted 18 Jul 2005, 15:07 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Pretty much on the money, CC! The Daimos is a subcategory of the Anagogis, and though the Gnostic Schools have flirted with summoning various 'Agencies' (to use the Nonman term for gods and demons), the Daimos is largely monopolized by the Scarlet Spires. It's a powerful weapon indeed. (Wait and see!) view post

posted 21 Jul 2005, 05:07 by Lord Sarku, Commoner

So the Ciphrang is [i:17b14ae6]not[/i:17b14ae6] specifically a damned soul? I thought it a touch odd if it was; that would seem to suggest that either the Inrithi or the Fanim were more correct than the other, which seems to diverge from some other things which are suggested (i.e., that the Inrithi have bigger things to worry about that fighting Fanim). view post

posted 02 Aug 2005, 14:08 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

grk... bug view post

posted 02 Aug 2005, 14:08 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

I'm not sure I understand the question, Lord Sarku. The Ciphrang never walked the World, if that's what you're referring to. They're entities of the Outside, through and through. view post


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