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Any up coming Novels with entirety Of THe Apocalypse? posted 10 Dec 2007, 21:12 by ReignOvTwilight, Commoner

Yeah I think it would be quite appropriate if Bakker wrote novels discussing the Apocalypse and the like. THe Ark-Of-The-Skies coming to Earwa, The wars of Mengedda...all of that stuff...yes it would take alot of time but not alone when I say im not the anly one who'd read it. view post

posted 10 Dec 2007, 21:12 by Cohen, Peralogue

I definitely think that Bakker has set up for that, but when he gets through this series I have a feeling that it might be redundant. If facts such as The Ark of the Skies ie. it's origins and what the hell it actually is. I mean Bakker seems to be bringing our world into his which disappoints me slightly, there are allot of suspect things in the first three novels. The Heron Spear sounds eerily familiar(GUN?) The Ark of the Skies, well it's obviously a space craft of some sorts. The allure for me to keep reading these books is to get some answers on the history of Earwa, I am hoping we get the back story in the next series he's currently writing, if I don't get the whole story in the next series I will surely be disappointed, if not jaded. view post

posted 11 Dec 2007, 00:12 by Israfel, Peralogue

I for one am not disappointed in the least by the sci-fi/fantasy mix that seems set up. Bakker could easily make this series into something as great as the Book of the New Sun, which is an example of how to mix the two well, and the magic seems real enough so I'm happy... And I'd imagine that any questions that are left unanswered could easily be answered by a prequel of some description, possibly a set of short stories or something. I'm confident we'll be happy by the end, though obviously more reading material is always good :) view post

Re: Any up coming Novels with entirety Of THe Apocalypse? posted 03 May 2009, 18:05 by Karol, Commoner

I know this is old but the idea of the Heron Spear as a gun struck me as odd. A bullet would have absolutely no affect against something like Mog-Pharau. If you recall there's a tornado that constantly whirls about the No God and it would simply knock the bullet off course. If it were a laser the debris caught in the spin would work as a fairly effective shield. As for the Ark - who says it's a space ship? Many fantasy worlds include inter-dimensional travel precipitated through magic. It could be that the Ark is built to carry them through that void between the dimensions and when they find a suitable world instead of just snapping into the fabric of the [i:319ymwkp]planet[/i:319ymwkp], they must enter the dimension 'close enough' to the potentially ripe world. Perhaps the Ark 'appears' within the planet's field of gravity and is thus pulled down? It really seems like it was only meant to be a one way trip, otherwise the whatsits could have left after encountering so much resistance to their plan. Of course, if they [i:319ymwkp]couldn't[/i:319ymwkp] leave they are left with only one option - close the world to the outside so as to escape damnation. view post

Re: Any up coming Novels with entirety Of THe Apocalypse? posted 30 Aug 2009, 22:08 by Supersword, Commoner

I believe that the Ark travelled much the same way as one would assume a ship would. Not necessarily a space ship, but certainly it "travelled the wastes" so to speak. Bakker describes its descent in much the same way as imagery is detailed in Revelations (I find quite a bit of similarity between the Prince of Nothing and Christianity, among other things). The Ark, "vast and golden, toppled from the void, scorching the horizon, throwing up a ring of mountains with the violence of its descent." (Bakker 427) Much of what the Inchoroi and the Consult do seems steeped in Chaos, so toppling makes sense. "Scorching the horizon" does not speak of "controlled landing", and the "ring of mountains" is quite obviously the crater it made upon impact. Considering the meshing of sorcerery and science in this world of his, Bakker will likely explain rather satisfactorily about how the Ark came to be. Seems likely to be in the last book of the Ordeal via Consult or via Seswatha's dreams. Also, to satisfy my own desire to discuss similarities, I do not see the Heron Spear as a 'gun'. In a world of magic, a gun would seem hardly necessary (though the mental image of Sarl with an MG42 and Lord Kosoter with a .45 Revolver fighting Sranc is rather amusing). No, my brain perked at the similarities between the Heron Spear and the Spear of Destiny, for lack of a better name. Something like the Holy Grail or the Spear that killed Christ. Also, this may just be idle mental wanderings, but the similarities between Kellhus and Jesus are somewhat uncanny. The white robes, the beard and the sloping halo are what did it for me. Stereotypical imagery, I know, but uncanny nonetheless. A last point on the impending backstory. Bakker has been rather good at giving enough information so we don't remain confused (after the first few chapters of "The Darkness That Comes Before", of course) but not enough so we say "Well, that's that, next series!" I'm confident that he'll provide enough closure on the backstory of the First Apocalypse. Besides, these books are not written with the intention of simple, linear plot. I've gotten more thought out of these books than most others I've read. It's certainly less annoying than some of Plato's writings on Socrates! Bakker, R. Scott. "The Aspect-Emperor Book One: The Judging Eye." Toronto, Canada: Pengiun Canada, 2009. view post


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