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A meaningful life... posted 14 Aug 2008, 00:08 by jub, Peralogue

Not a discussion on the meaning of life but what makes for a meaningful life; a life worth living? I know there are thousands of answers for this (that's why i'm starting it :) ) but to be honest I have no idea. view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 16 Aug 2008, 04:08 by Cironian, Peralogue

In my opinion, to simply [i:2j31rh0m]be[/i:2j31rh0m] is what makes a life worth living. view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 17 Aug 2008, 02:08 by Callan S., Auditor

What currently makes it unmeaningful? Or what potentially makes it unmeaningful? Search into what makes it unmeaningful and that should also make clear would would stop making it unmeaningful and instead become meaningful. view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 17 Aug 2008, 04:08 by Cironian, Peralogue

Most people I see, when they think they have a life they deem meaningless, are actually just bored or depressed about their lives, perhaps because their lives aren't what they idealize them to be, or simply because of a relatively monotone life. But see, even if you think [i:9124cr5p]you[/i:9124cr5p] don't make a difference in the world, based on how you view your life singularly, you actually [i:9124cr5p]do[/i:9124cr5p], to say, other people. I'm amazed at how happy people are when I hold a door open for them because they walk through it right behind me, for example. In that sense, your life has meaning. Even in a way as little as that, (but realistically, everyone makes a little imprint on a life ten thousandfold every day), your life can be deemed meaningful. Heck, the fact that one even exists makes a life have meaning! (Of course, negative actions, causes, effects, etc. also make a life have meaning. Hope this balances my potentially annoying optimism prior.) In short, for a life to have meaning, to have purpose, it needs definition. By simply existing at all, we provide definiton of ourselves to the universe. I believe that over thousands of years, the vast majority of humankind has overlooked this almost subconcious detail, thinking much more elevatedly (on an existensial, defining level) than this base concept. We need not look beyond ourselves to see life, purpose, and life [i:9124cr5p]as[/i:9124cr5p] purpose. view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 18 Aug 2008, 21:08 by Chirios, Candidate

A meaningful life is one that in some way, solves a problem. view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 16 Sep 2008, 03:09 by jub, Peralogue

I think what my main concern is the way in which society makes a slave of our lives. Societal expectations pressure, force(?), people into living lives that are designed to sustain the grand community; choose a career, make money, give it back in order to survive, reproduce, retire and die. (Over simplified I know) I feel this is moving more and more into the extreme, and I feel this takes away from what it is to be human; to live consciously. We are special; there is no doubt about it at all. The universe has given itself self-conscious, an amazing, mind-blowing, concept, and with the way society operates consciousness is turned into novelty. view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 15 Nov 2008, 04:11 by Trinket, Candidate

This is a nihlist way to put it I suppose, but don't hate me for what I am. Why is it so important for life to have meaning? To some people, it might be the most important thing in life, to find meaning. But why is that? What is so important about the question? Life is a natural cycle. It involves birth, death, and often reproduction. But animals, who go through the same cycle of life, never have any questions or thoughts about "Why they exist", or "What their purpose is". It's a sad truth, but the quest for answers to questions like these all to often causes strife, conflict, war, deciet, and lies. So what we should ask ourselves (and this is where it gets depressing and nihlistic) is not "What makes a life meaningful?", but instead, "Why does it matter?". view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 02 Dec 2008, 03:12 by Cironian, Peralogue

In response to what jub said... I think society and mass media are trying to imprint on us what we [i:2ek7lmzh]should[/i:2ek7lmzh] think a meaningful life is. (ie. the big house, the fancy new car, 2.4 kids and a dog, etc.) This engraining of these "standards" represented make money and make people more managable and controllable. Most humans want to belong, so they'll buy into these expectations put forth by the general society. They consider their lives to have meaning, and thus stop looking. They lose most (or all) of their sense of adventure, and stop thinking that there's more to life than what they have, except for keeping up with the Jonses'. (Oh, and continuing to do what society expects of them.) I'm guessing that's caused by the human condition. We all want to feel safe and secure. When we're adults, we don't have the nice teacher to tell us what a great job we did, or the contiual presence of the parent to give us that sense of safety. We're mostly alone out there in the adult world, and we see the general typeface of human to keep that feeling that it's all alright. That's my thought, anyway. view post

Re: A meaningful life... posted 20 Mar 2009, 10:03 by avatar_of_existence, Peralogue

You know, I came to the philosophy corner to ask relatively the same thing but in this light: is meaning important? I've been thinking about this constantly and I've come to the conclusion that I'm a born nihilst, much the same way many people are born christians. No, meaning is not important, but we place so much emphasis on it out of defense. Our minds are made to make sense of the world, and I don't believe that life has to be meaningful to be, well... meaningful. Take the afterlife for example! It's so comforting that I would reject it even if I had been there. What I'm trying to say I guess is that we will still do things, we can still have a desire to do and not have to presuppose meaning. Frankly I guess I just don't need or want that crutch (there are some days. . . ) I've largely started thinking this way in 9th grade, and I'm 24 now. I like not having an agenda, not feeling like I'm trying to sell people who I am and what I stand for, something I see people around me doing constantly. Even better, some get upset when they realize that I don't care. People remind me much of the time of fun-house mirrors, obscenely distorted reflections of myself. My friend wrote me a letter on my birthday consisting of quotes from the Warrior-prophet and I remember the most striking one ending (roughly) like this: the only certainty is that there is no certainty. When I think about the problems and suffering in the world it seems like ALL of it comes from acting out of certainty. Perhaps it is certainty that is darkness and doubt that is light. I believe certainty is born out of meaning, and meaning out of terror. And let me end with this quote from the Judging Eye: [i:1vcfjvlw]The world is only as deep as we can see. This is why fools think themselves profound. This is why terror is the passion of revelation.[/i:1vcfjvlw] view post


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