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Why Bakker posted 26 Jan 2007, 06:01 by Myshkin, Commoner

So I was on the Goodkind boards earlier and I started a thread asking people why they like (or dislike) his SOT series. I loathe both Terry Goodkind and his works, and was genuinly interested on why other people seem to love him so much. Anyway, to the point: I thought it might be interesting to find out why people on this board like (or dislke) the works of Bakker (an author who I very much enjoy). So please espouse your opinion on why you believe Bakker is a great (or terrible) author. view post

posted 26 Jan 2007, 13:01 by Harrol, Moderator

I like Bakker's ability to write realistic characters to be most enjoyable. I love the characters and what they do. Conphas, Cnaiur and Proyas are great and deep. That is just to name a few. view post

posted 26 Jan 2007, 15:01 by TheDarkness, Peralogue

Why do i love Bakker's writing? Ohh let me count the ways. from the first chapter and the first scene of TDTCB I knew i would enjoy his style. The dark setting and the intensity set between Akka and his tormentor pulled you in before you even really knew the stakes. His writing is smart, there are not many other adjectives that really give his writing justice. His books are not for the amatuer reader. I believe we all feel a connection, knowing we have ridden with Cnair, schemed whith Conphas, mourned with Akka, and even been tempted with Esmi. Not only does he tie us together in this wonderous tale but he also has managed to create a vast world that has yet to reveal its dark secrets. view post

posted 26 Jan 2007, 15:01 by Sokar, Auditor

The reason I started with fantasy is Bakker actually..I was on my way to Cuba and was looking for a book to read during the holidays..I thought of reading fiction, rather than relax and rest... But when I took his book..the first sentence of the book..a quote by Nietzsche..that thought comes when it wants, not when we want..simply grasped my attention..I couldn't let go... I guess that is the reason I read the book..but my facination with the whole series lay in two questions..What happens to Cnaiur (as I have said elsewhere, he would be by far the most intriguing character) and to a smaller extent, what is the role of Maithenet... Usually with fiction there are some ideas of what is going to happen (ok..I don't read that much fiction)..but with this one I had no idea... So..combined with great literary style as well as thought provoking questions in philosophy..I am hooked.. As I haven't read much other fantasy..for me Bakker is the great author... view post

posted 31 Jan 2007, 00:01 by noodles0585, Peralogue

i love the dark and gritty style of writing that Bakker brings to his work. i find his world fascinating and characters intriging. i believe that Bakker is one great author and next to a song of ice and fire by George RR Martin he is one of my favorites. mostly the reason i like him is that like martin you find his characters no matter how good not perfect and no matter how bad not evil and that makes them and his world all the more life like. as nothing is just white or black but gray. view post

posted 31 Jan 2007, 16:01 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

A few reasons, one is that the series has an edge. It is dark, gritty, etc, but not without hope and light as well. For a fantasy novel it is also realistic in the sense that Scott tries to portray a world that makes sense even though the fantastic exists the world is believable and real. He also writes amazing characters and the metaphysics and philosophy that he interjects makes it a nice thought provoking read. view post

posted 31 Jan 2007, 20:01 by Myshkin, Commoner

These are basically the same reasons why I like Bakker. I like the introspective view the books take; showing, in great detail, the "why" behind the action. I also like that, unlike a certain yearded author I know, Bakker gives us many complex shades of grey. Most of all I like that Bakker had the balls to make Kellus an un-sympathetic, and to some degree un-likable, character. We don't have to like our hero to want him to prevail. view post

Bakker is interesting and refreshing posted 26 Mar 2007, 02:03 by Dassem Ultor, Commoner

The major reason that I enjoy Bakker's writing is that he has created an interesting world peopled by more than simple heroes, villians and vapid supporting characters. His characters are not for the faint of heart, they are gritty fully human (and fallible) with their own contexts. I find Bakker's attempt at injecting conflicting elements of philosophy, religion, culture, bizarre social mores and true racial dichotomies (I am talking of Human, Non-Man, Sranc and Demon/Dragon etc.) into a fantasy setting intellectually stirring. He seems to have adopted an almost relentless pursuit of crushing the western version of truth, found in most fantasy novels, into the fine philosophical dust of used to cover the travel worn boots of his Crusaders as they head to Shimeh. Intriguing questions abound from this writer's work. Not the least of which would certainly make Eric Fromm smile. If the power of the Logos is found only in complete submission to its tenets, then are the "Truly Free" truly free? Said in a more simple fashion ... does the realization of the futility of free will make one free? Hmmm ... okay, perhaps that is not more simple :roll: Any way .... good plotting .... excellent setting and character description and development .... a non apologetic approach to the setting and cultural descriptions *considers hugging the publisher that allowed a glossary to be included* which I enjoyed ... and well history that means something to the characters and the settings .... that and a cracking good read. view post

posted 26 Mar 2007, 08:03 by Jamara, Auditor

Because he's not scared to represent real life. He doesn't shy away from the harsh realities of how the world used to be. He doesn't romanticize it. view post

posted 26 Mar 2007, 10:03 by Anthorn, Candidate

i like the realisim of it. And the fact that it reads as if it did/is/was happening as though it was history long forgot. view post

posted 26 Jun 2007, 01:06 by IcarusXIII, Candidate

The main reason (aside from the tide of raw awsome that is Cnaiur) Bakker never seems to pull his punches and I like that in an author. view post

posted 26 Jun 2007, 14:06 by poeg, Commoner

In his series of books, religion actually exists and is as feared as it should be. Most of what I've read elsewhere in Fantasy shows it to not exist or to bare minimal impact on the population of their worlds. Want to see a host of peasants being happily torn to shreds pulling down monsters? The fever of religion can deliver such martyrs and in quantity. A very scary picture. view post

posted 28 Nov 2007, 02:11 by Writer, Candidate

I kind of have a love-hate relationship with Bakker. I appreciate the philosophy, even if I don't agree with it. I am disgusted by the level of violence and I will probubly never forgive him for having Kellhus sleep with Esmenet. I do love the world he created, even if it is violent, dirty and filled with power-hungry, greedy jerks and the idiots who follow them. view post


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