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How would you define religion? posted 06 Oct 2006, 23:10 by zap21, Commoner

[quote="Wikipedia":xq66jq5i]Religion is a system of social coherence based on a common group of beliefs or attitudes concerning an object, person, unseen being, or system of thought considered to be supernatural, sacred, divine or highest truth, and the moral codes, practices, values, institutions, and rituals associated with such belief or system of thought. It is sometimes used interchangeably with "faith" or "belief system", but is more socially defined than that of personal convictions.[/quote:xq66jq5i] Also, could a new religion be found in modern times and still be considered a respectable and legitimate one? How would you react if a religion was founded? Just thought I'd throw this out there because it's a big topic on other forums :D view post

posted 07 Oct 2006, 20:10 by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Ive had notions of starting my own religion once or twice but i thought it would be too much time consuming writing commandments and what not, but back to the topic i would say that religion is anyones personal belief on existence in general. view post

posted 10 Oct 2006, 12:10 by gierra, Sorcerer-of-Rank

religion is a written guide to how to live your life and worship god, in whatever form(s). i think it has to be differentiated (is that a word?) between believing in 'god' and believing in religion. i think the two are completely different. *and before you go saying 'well i don;t believe in god, i believe in blah blah blah...' i don;t care. by god i mean existence, creation, and vice versa, whatever.. maybe it should have been [u:215k24rv] insert random belief here [/u:215k24rv] view post

posted 10 Oct 2006, 14:10 by alhana, Auditor

I personally believe that religion is the "practice and ceremonies and rules" that one uses for formal, organized, corporate worship within their society. I believe that spirituality is the beliefs that one holds personally and the personal experiences about those beliefs. Sometimes these are the same, but a person can experience spirituality without religion. view post

posted 10 Oct 2006, 15:10 by Harrol, Moderator

To me religion with out a personal relationship with God is worthless. Yet according to my beliefs which is based off of what I have read we can only have the relationship with God that we are intended to have through fellowship with other believers. view post

posted 14 Oct 2006, 18:10 by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

In my opinion a God does not have to be part of religion, but a belief in a higher purpose or reason for existence does. I personally believe in God in my own personal way. view post

posted 15 Oct 2006, 05:10 by Harrol, Moderator

True enough. God does not exist because of religion but rather religion exists because of God. Of course we religious people always find away to foul it up. :cry: view post

posted 03 Dec 2006, 18:12 by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I believe God exists because of religion. Not the other way around. Not to offend anyone...but, hey its what i believe. God/God's have always been used to explain what we do not understand. Think of Greek mythology perhaps? As far as religion without god being useless. Think of Buddhism maybe? :) view post

posted 03 Dec 2006, 18:12 by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

We could think of Buddhism perhaps but many people even tried to make Buddha out to be godlike and he is worshipped is he not? People have statues of him and rub his belly for luck in my opinion thats pretty close to worship. Plus the whole idea of Nirvana. And yes Gods have always been used to explain unexplainable events but as I said as time wears on they were used to make rules and rituals for people. view post

posted 03 Dec 2006, 19:12 by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

no Buddha was never a god....he has and always will be a teacher. Enlightenment, is not being a god but rather awakening to full understanding. You make the common misconception that most think of the buddhist statues as idol worship...and believe he is thought of as a god because of it. not the case: the statues are so that we can reflect upon the enlightment that we wish to reach by visualizing the ways and a person who has already reached it. also, they ae for postulations, these are over a hundred positions that you perform in your room of study, to relinquish the ideas of selfishness. this by performing these you show commitment to becoming a more happy and knowledgable person. but thank you for your common misconception...because i do believe that most people think as you do and it was a wonderful way to clear that up for many. I do not mean that in a bad way. I truly thank you. Knowledge is power. :) view post

posted 03 Dec 2006, 19:12 by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

O I do not make the common misconception of thinking Buddha was a god, sorry if it seemed as though thats where I was going with it, though I agree many do, what I was trying to say however was that people are always trying to make something into something its not. When Buddha began he was not trying to start a new religion or anything similar he was trying to enlighten people and reform ideas that were already there, but many people simply could not accept that he was a mere man so they would often question him asking if he was a god or an angel and such. Yes Buddha is a teacher but people still ignorantly think he is something more, and by simply having his statue is veneration which evolves into something more more often than not, kings often turned into religious objects a few years down the line. Rubbing the belly seeming silly to some, is not so silly as some think its very similar to superstition and ritual worship. Religion starts out with the small things. Another example Jesus was a [u:2d5uhwa3][b:2d5uhwa3]carpenter[/b:2d5uhwa3][/u:2d5uhwa3] who wanted to reform Judaism and look what happened with that. I could go on and on with more of my thoughts but I would be blabbing all day. Sorry to make it seem as though I thought Buddha to be a god Im a bit tired so getting my point across was a little more difficult. I look forward to continuing this topic. view post

posted 03 Dec 2006, 20:12 by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

sorry for misconcieving your point. I do understand what you were saying now though. I totally agree with all of which you previously said. :idea: Also, I know how tiresome it is to go through the whole jesus thing. but, i do view it the same as you i believe so your lack of explanation on that part didnt have lack of meaning to me anyway. I agree with you competely. wise words view post


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