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Buddhist connection? posted 26 Apr 2006, 18:04 by talek, Candidate

There may be a Buddhist connection; the historical Buddha was called "Shakamuni," meaning "shaka monk," where shaka = schythian = skylvendi = Skiotha. Very striking is the similarity of Kelhus' meditation based on the phrase, "The Logos has neither beginning nor end" to Zen and other Buddhist meditation techniques (although, of course, "Logos" is a Greek term - possibly roughly equivalent to the Buddhist "dharma," however). The Dunyain claim that everything reduces to causality has a reflection in the early Buddhist claim of the same nature. view post

posted 27 Apr 2006, 18:04 by Scilvenas, Auditor

There's definately a connection. Consider the zen buddhist concept of 'form in void' and 'void in form.' Then look at Kellhus training where he has to internally repeat the mantra, dropping a word each cycle, and eventually thinking it without words (which likely prepared him for using sorcery on the same level as the witch king Akka mentioned). [quote="Ikkyu":p2cr8dyo]VOID IN FORM When, just as they are, White dewdrops gather, On scarlet maple leaves, Regard the scarlet beads! FORM IN VOID The tree is stripped, All colour, fragrance gone, Yet already on the bough, Uncaring spring![/quote:p2cr8dyo] There's also quotes something along the lines of [In the beginning, there was nothingness. Then form was created, but the nothingness shines through.] and [A vessel is not of use by it's shape but the emptiness it contains.] *shrug* That said, it becomes a question of it being an intentional connection or it being a universal truth or concept. I'd ask Scott, but he appears to be busy these days. view post

posted 28 Apr 2006, 16:04 by Scilvenas, Auditor

[quote="Anonymous":2l55np4l]The quote about the vessel is from the Daodejing, and hence, technically, Taoism rather than Buddhism, but, well, Taoism was probably a huge influence in the formation of Zen, so it is indeed relevant, anyway. [/quote:2l55np4l] Umm, thanks? But the point was to illustrate the zen concept of form in void (which is inarguably a zen/buddhist concept, but is not to say it isn't one found elsewhere), not exactly to just quote scripture from a religion. Now if Scott had used that quote exactly, it'd be a different story. [quote:2l55np4l]Davidge:"If one receives evil from another, let one not do evil in return. Rather, let him extend love to the enemy, that love might unite them." I've heard all this before... in the human Taalmaan. Jerry: Of course you have. Truth is truth.[/quote:2l55np4l] view post


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