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A question about NonMen TTT(semispoilerish) posted 08 Feb 2006, 22:02 by Faelcind Il Danach, Peralogue

In the appendices it mentions that the nonmen acheived immortality through the agency of the inchoroi? My question is what was their lifespan before that? My guess is that it would be equivalent to their lifespan they are able to remember about four times that of humans? view post

posted 08 Feb 2006, 23:02 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Thats the impression I was under, somewhere between 2-5 times the length of a human lifespan. It really is interesting to read about the Cuno-Inchoroi wars and the earlier days of the Nonmen. It truly is a tragic tale to see a mighty race that in a very real sense, was the architect of it's own ultimate downfall. I hope to see more of the Nonmen in AE, I am assuming we will see more of ones who have gone over the Consult just to be able remember something. view post

posted 09 Feb 2006, 21:02 by Mithfânion, Didact

I believe Scott mentioned it was about 400 years. view post

posted 10 Feb 2006, 05:02 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

I think you're right Mith, it's in some old thread on this board. Too lazy to go look for it but that number seems right to me. :) view post

posted 10 Feb 2006, 06:02 by unJon, Auditor

I wonder if the Inchoroi are "erratic" for the same reason (longevity). They live so long and their minds can only hold so much. Or I wonder if they can remember everything but are just "naturally" such a species of "lovers." view post

posted 10 Feb 2006, 19:02 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

We have nothing that suggests the Inchoroi are erratic, their perversions and manner is quite different from that of the Non-men Erratics from what we have seen. Remember that with the Non-men it isn't perversity so much as trauma that they seek out, because trauma makes a much more lasting impact on their mind, and they can remember those traumatic experiences. With the Inchoroi we see a much more instinctive seeming drive that makes them a "Race of Lovers." If something similar happened with the Inchoroi perhaps in the distant past (longer as far as the time between they made themselves immortal/longer lives than their normal life span and their arrival on Earwar than the time between their arrival on Earwa and now) they would have obviously overcome it so it was a much more natural state of being than that of the Non-men Erratics. My personal opinion, is that the reason for the Inchoroi's appetites is quite different from what drives the Erratics, but that is just my 0.02. :) view post

posted 10 Feb 2006, 20:02 by unJon, Auditor

Entropic, I guess I wasn't very clear. I agree that the erratics are different (and seek different things) than the Inchoroi. What I mean to speculate about was whether the Inchoroi also had problems about their minds not being able to contain their memories. Option 1: by their nature or through the Tekne they have managed to enlarge their minds to the point that their long lives don't drive out most of their memories. Option 2: Like the non-men erratics, the Inchoroi have the problem of having a bunch of memories forced out. For the erratics its the trauma that is left. What would be left for the Inchoroi? Since their minds are fundamentally different from the non-men what would be the longest-lasting memories for them? Moments of extreme pleasure in torturing and destroying others? Moments of intense fear when they come in contact with the Outside? Whatever it is, I imagine that if they suffer from "selective memory loss" then it would impact how they behave today. It would be different than how the erratics are but a similar phenomenon would be occuring with possibly predictable results. I could (perhaps) see Bakker playing with this parellel in AE. Just my $0.02. :D Anyone have any ideas about my Inchoroi question a few posts down this forum?? view post

posted 10 Feb 2006, 23:02 by Entropic_existence, Moderator

It's entirely possible UnJon, but just from some of the insight we have had into the Inchoroi their memories seem relatively intact. But this is pure speculation on both our parts, perhaps Scott will give us an answer assuming the answer isn't a plot line that will be explored down the road at some point. :) As for your other question I am not sure. I assumed it was it's true form since it wasn't really in danger and also took place in the Ancient North. The physical description seemed quite "beautiful" and alien to me, which is why I suspected that it was Auran/Aurax's true form. view post

posted 17 Feb 2006, 17:02 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

400 years sounds right - I'm feeling too lazy to look it up (there's a lot of questions this week!) Regarding the Inchoroi, perhaps the better question should be one of whether they were 'erratic' [i:tfvnscsa]before[/i:tfvnscsa] they arrived in Earwa... view post


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