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Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 08 September 2005 in Author Q & AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes, similar thoughts here.

I ultimately too it to mean it was symbolic since he shouldn't be able to literally do it, but it was written as though it had been done literally.

That whole sequence was rather "dreamy" anyway. view post


Cunuroi/Inchoroi numbers posted 08 September 2005 in Author Q & ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

And, should Sir Bakker ever see fit to return, <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> may I also ask, who is the current Nonman king if it is not Nin-Ciljiras? view post


Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 09 September 2005 in Author Q &amp; AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Mithfânion, Didact

This question came up before, and I don't know how people miss the reference to Serwe's and not Kellhus's heart . . .


That's because we're all very dumb White Lord, and we need the true brilliance of someone like yourself to enlighten us.

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The Nonmen posted 12 September 2005 in Author Q &amp; AThe Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

I actually think that's a downside of the books sofar and something I hope Scott would imprrve upon somewhat in the future; the lack of descriptions for characters. Either their physique is not described at all, or very superficially (with a small number of exceptions). I'd like some more depth in this regard, not just descriptions of Nonmen but indeed also of the look of the Knights, what the names are of individual great Conriyan Knights, what the individual Thunyeri look like (other than being flaxen-haired) etc etc.

Surrounding and such are described quite extensively, it's the characters (often secodary ones) which could use far more. view post


The Nonmen posted 12 September 2005 in Author Q &amp; AThe Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

Quite possibly Echoex. It's just not my personal preference. I like to make my own image as well, but based on a description of a character rather than an idea of one. view post


Serious TTT thoughts, predictions, ideas... posted 13 September 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSerious TTT thoughts, predictions, ideas... by Mithfânion, Didact

When is it mentioned that Mallahet is Ketyai? I don't recall that. view post


Serious TTT thoughts, predictions, ideas... posted 14 September 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSerious TTT thoughts, predictions, ideas... by Mithfânion, Didact

Erekassos

I'm still waiting for proof that it somewhere says it's Mallahet who's Ketyai and that he therefore can't be Moenghus. I know Maithanet is not Norsirai, but you were talking about Mallahet, remember? <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Cunuroi/Inchoroi numbers posted 11 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

Shameless bump. view post


Moenghus and Skiotha (and more) posted 11 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; AMoenghus and Skiotha (and more) by Mithfânion, Didact

Shameless bump. view post


Bashrag &amp; Achamian posted 11 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; ABashrag &amp; Achamian by Mithfânion, Didact

Shameless bump. view post


Worldhorn &amp; Heron Spear posted 11 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; AWorldhorn &amp; Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

Final shameless bump.

Didn't want these threads to go to the archive unanswered <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Cunuroi/Inchoroi numbers posted 18 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, could you say who or what is Nin-Ciljiras? He (or it) is mentioned by the Inchoroi... view post


Worldhorn &amp; Heron Spear posted 25 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; AWorldhorn &amp; Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

But the Worldhorn, is that like a regular horn or does it have hacve additional traits? Could you describe the look of it perhaps? view post


Cunuroi/Inchoroi numbers posted 25 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

You mean for the two Aspect Emperor books? view post


The Thousandfold Thought - Paperback? Large print? Hard... posted 03 November 2005 in Author Q &amp; AThe Thousandfold Thought - Paperback? Large print? Hard... by Mithfânion, Didact

It's a trade paperback. Very cool format. view post


Advance Review of The Thousandfold Thought posted 13 December 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAdvance Review of The Thousandfold Thought by Mithfânion, Didact

That's got me all slobbery Zarathustra. view post


Do we have a date? posted 08 January 2006 in Author Q &amp; ADo we have a date? by Mithfânion, Didact

Which is very unfortunate, because when I ordered the book from Amazon.ca two weeks ago they said it would be shipped on January 1st.

They lied.
I detest it when that happens. view post


Men v. Nonmen posted 27 January 2006 in Author Q &amp; AMen v. Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

Sorry to dredge up this old topic but is the Nonman from the prologue of tDtCB the Nonman Erratic who reveals Golgotterath to the Gnostic Sorcerers prior to the First Apocalypse?


Yes, that is the same Nonman. He's a ranking member of the Consult and referred to by Seswatha as a Nonman prince as well. view post


Explanation for Achamian's survival?? posted 05 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtExplanation for Achamian's survival?? by Mithfânion, Didact

I was also baffled by his survival. The reason is simply because of Scott's narrative. We learn that Achamian eventually loses the fight with the Ciphrang demon. It drags him away into the skies. Why does Achamian survive?

Does the "trailing downward" mean that the Ciphrang perished before he could kill Achamian?

It certainly seemed very intent on killing him. Cerrtainly there was mentioned made of it only being "an eye for an eye" but as we have seen, Achamian didn't lose his eye in exchange for what he did to Iyokus, so that can't have been it either.

So how does he live? view post


DELETED posted 05 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtDELETED by Mithfânion, Didact

I was very pleased with the appendices, I have to say. It was pretty much what I was hoping for. view post


The Dream that went wrong posted 05 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Dream that went wrong by Mithfânion, Didact

I think we're searching too deep here, or in the wrong direction. The dream was different this time, though we are never shown if Anaxophus actually does throw the Heron Spear, but I don't recall Anaxophus speaking in such a way the first time we had an account of Mog's Fall.

So, it was odd. But I don't think it translated to Achamian himself, just something else which is too hard to put a finger on. It must have some sort of meaning.

On another note, what was it that Seswatha told Celomos's son that he would find in the heart of Golgotterath, the thing that led him to go there?
Clearly he didn't know he was searching for the Heron Spear, so what was it...? view post


Questions that haunt me after just reading TTT. posted 05 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtQuestions that haunt me after just reading TTT. by Mithfânion, Didact

From a rather breathtaking 100 final pages, which I just read.

Obviously, major spoiler to follow......

First I have to state the things that I couldn't figure out. Let me know your thoughts please.

1) Why does Moenghus have to die, according to Kellhus? Why does he do it? I've read the section a couple of times but I do not get a proper explanation. I guess the closest I come to is that Kellhus fears that Moenghus wishes to take his place and become Aspect Emperor instead, but Kellhus then speaks of "apocalyptic conspiracies" and " a counterfeit war against Golgotterath". Is he saying that Moenghus was or would have been in league with the No-God? Because given everything else we hear, that would be absurd. Moenghus strongly opposed them as much as he could, that much is clear. So why kill him?

2) I simply cannot see how Moenghus dies. Kellhus has stabbed him. Cnaiur comes to him, and the following happens:

*Cnaiur admits to loving him, and kisses him on the mouth after Moenghus says he needs his strength.

*Cnaiur graps into his breeches and Moenghus gasps, jerks and spasms as Cnaiur rolls out the chorea across his cheek.White light flares from Moenghus' sockets. "But then his lover fell away, burning as he must, such was the force of what had possessed them".

*Cnaiur cries out "not again!" , "how could you leave me?".

What I don't get is:

a) How does Moenghus die? Is it the Chorea?

b) If it is the chorea, why does Cnaiur bring it forth if he doesn't want Moenghus to die?

c) What does Moenghus need from Cnaiur anyway that requires his strength? I just don't get that part . Does he need Cnaiur to give him air? It seems odd that Moenghus would ask that, knowing he was about do die.

This whole section is an unsatisfying blur to me.

3) Why does Achamian survive? No explanation is given for this. The Ciphrang beats him and then drags him away into the sky. How does he survive? Or rather, why? If it is as the Ciphrang says and it is only an eye that he came for, as per his Summoner's intstruction (Iyokus), then why does he not lose one?

4) Why did the Ciphrang go to the tent in which Little Moenghus lay, the one guarded by the single Hundred Pillars guardsmen? Presumably to ask after Achamian's whereabouts, as he later does, but the whole scene seemed rather odd to me.

5) Any idea what the secret could be that the Inchoroi Synthese (Aurang) tells the little boy?

6) On another note, what was it that Seswatha told Celomos's son that he would find in the heart of Golgotterath, the thing that led him to go there?
Clearly he didn't know he was searching for the Heron Spear, so what was it...? view post


The Meeting between Kellhus &amp; Moenghus? posted 05 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Meeting between Kellhus &amp; Moenghus? by Mithfânion, Didact

I found the meeting between the two, or more specifically the climax of it, very peculiar. Why kill him? How does he die? Is ithe chorea or the knife wound. Why the chorea by Cniaur if he didn't want to kill him but save him? view post


Spoilerish question regarding Sorcery posted 05 February 2006 in Author Q &amp; ASpoilerish question regarding Sorcery by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, to summarize from what I gathered when I read Kellhus's explanation about teh Cishaurim:

Moenghus is limited because the Psukhe does not work on intellict but on passion, and a Cishaurim can only become as powerful as his own passions. This is basically the long and short of it, correct?

But it is explained that the other Cishaurim look down upon Moenghus even as they respect his mind and powers, because he doesn't have access to "the water". They seem him as cursed by the Solitary God.

What is meant by this? What does Moenghus lack that other Cishaurim don't? view post


A TTT question -possible spoilers inside, you've been warned posted 05 February 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA TTT question -possible spoilers inside, you've been warned by Mithfânion, Didact

And related to this curious "damnation" concept brought forth in TTT, why are the Dunyain also damned, and why would for instance Moenghus (as Kellhus submits) follow the same path as the Consult? view post


Spoilerish question regarding Sorcery posted 05 February 2006 in Author Q &amp; ASpoilerish question regarding Sorcery by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes I understand that he is limited in terms of passion as a Dunyain, that's correct. But since we have come to know him as the most powerful member of the Cishaurim, and as one who is highly respected by the other Kishauri, what is it that he lacks? In what do the others surpass him, why do they think him cursed?

The quote goes:

"Seokti and the others respect you, Kellhus continued. "Indeed as Mallahet you have a reputation that reaches across Kian and beyond. And you shine in the Third Sight. But secretly they all think you cursed by the Solitary God. Why else would the Water elude you?

Also:

"Though your intellect could astound those about you and earn you access to their most priviliged counsels, the instance they found themselves beyond teh force of your presence, the undermining whispers rekindled. "He is weak'

I wonder what is meant by shining in The Third Sight as well. view post


Bashrag posted 05 February 2006 in Author Q &amp; ABashrag by Mithfânion, Didact

I see where a Balrog comparison might come from, if you would lay the Tolkien and Bakker bestiaries next to each other I guess these would correspond the most, but I think Balrogs are clearly far more powerful creatures, with deeper might and more intellect. Sofar the Bashrag seems big, brutish monsters, nothing that we have not really seen before. view post


Also read TTT and puzzled - Warning : spoilers ! posted 05 February 2006 in Author Q &amp; AAlso read TTT and puzzled - Warning : spoilers ! by Mithfânion, Didact

I believe *the* or *a* chorea hoard is in the possession of the Consult.

I certainly recall Scott mentioning here that The Consult had a very large share of the existing chorea. view post


Cnaiur posted 07 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnaiur by Mithfânion, Didact

Some people seem to think his fate is in doubt. I guess I can see why because Scott didn't explicitly pronouce him dead, but IMO he is a dead man. In his final scene, we see that he thinks about his final swazond. This is supposedly where he kills himself, but we didn't get anyone's confirmation afterwards that he is dead.

However, when Achamian returns to Shimeh and finds mighty Kellhus coronated, he remarks that there is no Eleazaras there, no Serwe, no Conphas and no Cnaiur. I thought this was Scott's way of saying that Cnaiur is dead, since the three others mentioned are confirmed as dead.

Furthermore, Cnaiur is 45 years old now. I don't think he still has a role to play as a 65-year old Scylvendi. He'll be way, way past his prime by then, overrun by other Scylvendi if he should consider returning to them. I just don't see a point in his survival. His arc revolved all around Moenghus and his feelings for him and his refusal to admit to them. At the end, Moenghus is killed and he admits to himself that he only ever loved Moenghus. End of story. I also don't see a role for him in terms of raising his own son because the child has been renounced by him "("you are not of the People") plus Little Moenghus is generally seen as Kellhus' child by Serwe; The world doesn't know the child is Cnaiur's.

The final page with Achamian clinched any doubts I had after the scene with him and Moenghus. It just seemed definitive to me that Cniaur was mentioned there as those who were no longer with us. view post


Cnaiur (spoilers for TTT) posted 07 February 2006 in Author Q &amp; ACnaiur (spoilers for TTT) by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott,

After reading TTT I thought it fairly obvious that Cnaiur had died, that being the combination of him talking of the final swazond and Achamian later telling us that Cniaur, like Eleazaras, Conphas and Serwe, was no longer to be seen. Since all three of those were confirmed dead I assumed Cnaiur to be fit in that list as truly dead as well.

From a story arc point of view it makes perfect sense for him to be finished now, but in any case, can you confirm that he did indeed die? view post


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