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Gable Candidate | joined 29 June 2004 | 19 posts

The shortest path... posted 29 June 2004 in Author Q & AThe shortest path... by Gable, Candidate

It's downright incredible how easy it is to contact your favorite author nowadays. And speaking of which, I can't say how happy it made me to see--on the back cover of TWP--that you were compared to Guy Gavriel Kay, Steven Erikson and George--writes-like-molassess--Martin. My 3 favorite authors. Before, of course, you came along.
I admit to being only half way through your new book, and being an aspiring writer myself, was intersted when you mentioned how you were 'rushed' to write this in a years time. Ever read the book 'Runelords'? One of the best first novels I've ever read--then it all goes so very bad in the next few books. Your book, however, has blown me away.
Such an inventive and richly detailed world, like Erikson. The kind of intimate, poetic structure that Guy Kay has used to reduce me to a weeping idiot on public transit. Your book really has it all. And like I used to do when I worked at Chapters with Guy Gavriel Kay Books, I've bought numerous copies of your first novel simply intending to give them away--spread the good gospel of the tusk, if you will.
At any rate, I can't say enough how inspiring your work is, and I hope you already realize what a monumental thing you've already accomplished with your work thus far. If you're ever set do make any appearance in Vancouver, please let me know.
Hell, aside from the whole 'affect other people' and 'leave behind a legacy' hooplah that spurns a writer to write...a great big part of me wants to have other writers--namely my fellow canadians--as friends and peers...odd as that may sound. Ah, to drink a Rickards Red with GGK and egg him on that I saw the ending of Tigana coming all along...hehe.
Okay, I'm off. Thanks for enduring this lengthy post--it's actually the first chapter of my book! (untrue) And hey, any response would be a wonderfully welcome one. Thank you.

Nicholas J. G. Eames ....sound like it could be a writers name someday? view post

The shortest path... posted 30 June 2004 in Author Q & AThe shortest path... by Gable, Candidate

The shortest path indeed! On a whim I check the forum the very next evening and POOF!!!--you've replied already! That's, well, pretty amazing. Anyhow, I'm plugging away at TWP...very impressed by it, as I mentioned. And, oh, you'll be happy to know that JUST as I was wrapping up reading time so I could get a reasonable fraction of sleep...the chapter I finish ends with...well...(trying not to spoil too much) the abduction of a certain primary character, and damned if I didn't just extend reading time a bit longer that night.
As well, I wanted to mention a certain aspect that I love about your books, especially the second one, thus far. It's something that I'm trying to implement in my own work, and it's like this... Your Three Seas, like the ancient Mediterranian region of our world, is a mosiac of literally hundreds of smaller realms and lands and kingdoms and such. And as happened in ancient warfare, certain races and nations excelled at certain types of warfare, and brought certain strengths (as well as weaknesses) to a battle. Your Conriyan Knights, bloodlusting Thunyeri, well-structured Nansur and so on, are wonderfully realized as interestingly distinct nations--just as, back in the day, there would have been the likes of Numidian cavalry, hoplite infantry out of Egypt, skirmishers and slingers from the isles of you kind of see what I'm saying? I hope so, since I lost myself somewhere around trying to spell Mediterranian right..which I likely did not. It's a nice touch. Very enthralling to this lover of tactical warfare.
Anyhow. Thanks so much for the reply. Very cool of you. Keep on truckin, and now that I know your listening, I'll write again when I've finished (or if any particular plot developments spur me to claw my own eyes out).

Nicholas view post

Of Kings and Emperors... posted 11 December 2004 in Author Q & AOf Kings and Emperors... by Gable, Candidate

Hey there.
So. I've been writing my ass off the past month or so, straining to meet the self-imposed deadline of December 20th to have completed a full 'Part' of the book I'm writing. Six complete chapters and a prologue. I write rather slowly--but love what I write, which I think is good, haha. Anyhow--question. Scott, I'd like to be made clear on what the rules are when referring to kings and emperors and princes and satraps and the such, with regards to capitalization. When to use King or king, you know? As well, the whole 'your Majesty' 'Your' capitalized? This may seem a silly question, but I use these terms a lot--or mis-use them, more likely. Oh, btw, I wrote to you earlier, when I was halfway through TWP, and you asked to know how I enjoyed the rest. Let's just say...I was slow to write back because I was too busy writing. Truly inspiring. last thing...would it be considered stalking to look up your agent's e-mail and send him this manuscript when it's 'grammatical errors' are solved? Ha ha, I mean, maybe my brother is blowing some serious smoke up my ass, but I think he'll like it.
Anyhow, thanks for your time, and your work. Your books are amazing, and you're now official invited to my 'Life's Dream', where you'll share a table with Steven Erikson, Guy Gavriel Kay and I...wishful thinking, eh? AH, but one can dream. Thanks. Nicholas. view post

Of Kings and Emperors... posted 12 December 2004 in Author Q & AOf Kings and Emperors... by Gable, Candidate

Thanks for the swift reply. I hear ya, about the continuity within the text. Will do. And about your agent's e-mail...I asked because I'd already looked him up--googled him, actually, hehe--and found a literary agent website with him on it. I take it that's not the right course of action though? I'll be sending off multiple copies to publishers and, I suppose, literary agents after chirstmas...I just thought since you had 'kicked open the door' for Canadian fantasy writers in that instance--not to mention, I love the presentation of your books (in Canada, at least)--that it might be a good place to start. Ah well, we shall see. I'll be sure NOT to drop your name if I do! I'll just say that Terry Goodkind sent me. Haha..which reminds me, I had a brief correspondence with Ed Greenwood (forgotten realms creator) when I was in highschool. He lived in Ontario, near me, and actually took the time to edit a sizable peice of work for me. Very nice of him--except that he told me I had the same 'fire of good story-telling' as his last pupil--R.A Salvatore. At the time I hadn't read of the fantastical--and ludicrous--exploits of Bruenor Battlehammer and the rest of the generic D&D gang...but when I did....worst compliment I ever got! Hmmm....silly to put down the work of a puplished writer, I suppose. But, I mean, characters that chase thier dog into the woods behind thier house and are transported to a magical world of elves and faeries? HE STOLE MY IDEA!
Anyway. Thanks again for the reply. A truly wonderful thing, this forum, and your attention to it. Thank you. view post

Of Kings and Emperors... posted 13 December 2004 in Author Q & AOf Kings and Emperors... by Gable, Candidate

Wouldn't say I've 'work-shopped' it, no. Various peices of it are in the hands of a few friends I know with pretty extensive knowledge of A) Fantasy literature--big fans of you and Erikson themselves, and B) Grammer and structure. Would workshopping it normally mean letting other burgeoning writers read it/critique it, sorta thing? I may try that online writer's workshop you mentioned then. But can it really be more helpful then a guy named JIMBO? (my so-called proofreader/editor) I mean, haha, Jimbo knows a lot about A LOT! At any rate--thanks for your attentive replies. And heck--while I'm here, why don't I throw in some flattery. Know what part of TWP I was telling someone about this morning? Well, two parts actually. One is where Kellhus is alone, about to face the onslaught of some camel-riders, I believe, and you talk about the 'circle described by his stick/sword'. Very cool. Another--and this is one of my favorite peices of writing ever, was in TDTCB, when Cnaiur returns to the camp during that storm at night, when the 'usurping' chief hears the fingers of his son hitting his tent flap...a great scene, how the spurts of writng between thunderclaps and lightning get shorter as the storm draws nearer. Anyhow--off to plug away at my chirstmas deadline. Talk to ya later! view post

Your top 5 fantasy series... posted 13 December 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionYour top 5 fantasy series... by Gable, Candidate

SWEET LORD GOD!!!!! I didn't see enough Guy Gavriel Kay amongst these top 5's!!! But I did see R.A. Salvatore. Put down the airport fantasy and pick up some GGK, I hightly recommend it.

My top 5, in no particular order...

Kay, Kay, Kay
Hmmm...Jordan, I guess. I mean, Rand, Mat and Perrin? You know you love them, even if you hate Jordan now.

Did anyone every read David Farland's Runelords? Fantastic first book, one of the best ideas ever, then it fell to peices, terribly. view post

Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn posted 13 December 2004 in Literature DiscussionMemory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Gable, Candidate

Honestly, these were good books.
But, honestly, they really sucked at the end, when the main protagonist pretty much sits by and watches other people do great things. Bummer. view post

Nicholas Eames Chapter Five posted 14 December 2004 in Member Written WorksNicholas Eames Chapter Five by Gable, Candidate

Hey there. Chapter 5 of my book. And feedback would be greatly appreciated. I put chapter 6 on here as well, so read away please. Some great feedback already has mentioned the opening segment a bit 'wordy' and I'll be sure to do what I can to remedy that. Please, bear with me though, and read on. And if anyone has any suggestions to make that first line more palatable, fire away. Thanks Hmm..actually, I just changed will be a bit more manageable now, hopefully.

A Soldier’s Daughter

IT WAS WITH considerable poise and a substantial amount of self-possessed equanimity that Demune Cartada composed for herself an expression of detached austerity in the face of the woman with whom her husband had shared a bed the night before.
What bothered the young Empress the most about the Countess Dinantes of Halluel was not her enchanting alien beauty, nor her maddeningly fierce intelligence, nor even that she was purportedly an exceedingly skilful lover (though she did find this facet particularily irksome), but that this raven-haired harlot, at twenty-nine winters, was eight years older than Demune herself.
Who ever heard of a mistress being older than a wife? She thought, exasperated, still finding difficulty in coming to terms with the revelation that, after only just two years of marriage, the sanctity of their bed was being openly invaded by this dark-eyed she-wolf. She had been irate at first, appalled and aghast not only at Karmedron’s infidelity but at the matter-of-fact indifference the subject seemed to inspire in others. Her handmaid Eloise had been taken aback at Demune’s initial outrage and had tried desperately to placate her anger, beseeching her to seek wiser counsel before confronting the Emperor himself.
And so she had gone straight away to the Imperial Mother, expecting Phydia to justify her indignation, but instead was met with a futile and denigrating attempt at consolation.
“We all have our station in this world,” her mother-in-law had said, in a tone she often used that seemed to suggest that Demune was supremely lucky to have been granted her present status. “You are an Empress, my dear. A ruler. And through your husband you wield a tremendous power. This girl, Dinantes, she is as nothing to you. Insubstantial. And to Karmedron she is merely a trinket. A fleeting fascination that will outlive it’s worth before very long. Her duty is a trifling one—to slake the desires of a lustful monarch—while yours…is divine.”
The Imperial Mother, in fashion with many of the upper-caste nobles in Endelas, was addicted to suima, a heavy narcotic out of Ruangoth made from a rare, powdered stone that emitted an intoxicating vapour when heated. There was a brazier beside her, a golden bowl of suima dust above the flame. One hand keeping her silver diadem in place, Phydia lowered her head and inhaled the fumes through a netted filter. She straightened when she was finished, her eyelids fluttering briefly before she continued.
“Where was I?” Phydia asked, dazed.
Spouting inane, patronizing drivel, you conceited bitch. “Divine,” she answered, politely.
“Ah. Yes, of course. Divinity.” She seemed to savour the word for a long moment and Demune had fought to suppress the sudden urge to throttle her—to strangle the Imperial Mother until her face turned black.
She had been a soldier’s daughter once.
“It is your duty to guide my son,” Phydia was saying. "To protect him as only a woman can. You have had your time as lovers and now your responsibility in the bedroom is merely one of proving fertile. You must bear him sons so that our noble lineage may be sustained.”
The Empress had listened with feigned interest as the older woman detailed her own experiences with such matters. “I even went as far as to have the first one killed,” she confessed. “Though it served nothing, merely prolonged the inevitable. The poor thing—low-born, like yourself.” Phydia watched her for a moment and Demune knew the Imperial Mother to be lost once more in a faraway reverie. “Poison,” Phydia had whispered then, quietly.
So it was wherever she sought out solace. Karmedron was a righteous monarch, some asserted, though in some ways as fallible as any man. He was an Emperor, others declared, and so his appetites were more voracious than a single woman could satiate. He was still a young man, it was added, and this licentious hunger of his would surely dwindle with time. It was simply the way of things, she must understand. The world was what it was, and the will of Emperors was subject to no one’s scrutiny.
But then there was the Lord-Marshal Teirkon, Karmedron’s uncle. He had ever been nothing but kind to her and had been genuinely aghast when she informed him that the Emperor had taken a mistress.
“Simply awful,” he had avowed as he stood before a tall oak cabinet, pouring her a second glass of un-watered white wine. Teirkon had been preparing to leave the following day on a diplomatic mission to Pharon, to negotiate an everlasting peace with the new queen of that realm. They were in his private quarters, safely away from the prying eyes of the palace servants. He handed her the delicate crystal glass and she drank of it, feeling her disquiet ebb farther from her mind’s surface. “My nephew admires a paltry star…when the glory of the moon lies brilliant before his very eyes.”
It took her a moment to recognize the compliment—the wine having already made its tingling course to her head—and when she did she smiled, demurely. “You are too kind.”
“Nonsense, my dear.” He took a seat near to her on the sofa and she could smell the scented oil in his hair. “You have every right to be angry. This business of taking a mistress after one has sworn an oath of marriage before the Ancients is utterly ridiculous. It’s an outrage—an affront to the very notion of love, and to your own considerable magnificence.” He smiled. He really was rather a handsome man, even at twice her age. “Perhaps that is why I myself have never entered into such a union. I am all too aware…of how precious each and every woman can be. You are a very precious woman, Demune.”
She barked a laugh, was about to comment that she wished her husband could see her that way, drained her wine instead. Teirkon had been quick to refill it, and they had talked for some time—about the intricacies of human relation and Karmedron’s stupidity and the nature of love and of lust.
She was quite sure that he had kissed her first, and that only then had she reciprocated with a need and a ferocity that had surprised even Demune herself. He had deftly and capably removed her clothes while she had frantically torn at his, then had allowed herself to be carried into his bedchamber and to be set down upon sheets of pale silk and ultimately ravished, which she, in truth, had enjoyed immensely.
There had been the compulsory pangs of guilt, of course, along with the momentary fear of being exposed in her infidelity, before conscience and consciousness were swept away by a desire she had not really wished to stand against. Only later, after all vestiges of lustful need had fallen away like a shroud, had the feelings returned, a surging of dreadful shame and self-loathing that blossomed in her gut like a sword-wound.
What have I done, her thoughts had shrieked at her as she had fumbled her way back into her clothes. Oh Karm, what have you made me become?
Teirkon, sensing her apprehension, had risen and begun helping her with the more intricate parts of her dress with practiced ease, all the while extolling as to what an honour she had bestowed upon him and assuring her of his discretion regarding their tryst, even managing to convey with flawless subtlety that he would be more than happy to be of service to her upon his return from Pharon, should she find herself in need of further consolation.
He had confessed to her then that he feared the new queen in Astepha may yet reject Karmedron’s proposed peace, seeking retribution for her father’s death, and that war with the desert kingdom might ensue once again. In which case, he was careful to add, her husband would once again cross the Jade Sea and she would be left alone.
In the aftermath of spent desire, however, his blatant guile served only to gall her and the touch of his hands made her skin crawl and her stomach boil in revulsion—of Teirkon and of herself.
The ambassador-general had departed the city the following day, making it easier for Demune to bury all thoughts of him and of what she had done in the depths of her mind. A month had passed and her situation continued to worsen. The Emperor’s unremitting fascination with the harlot from Halluel continued to grow, while the intangible gulf she created between Demune and Karmedron seemed to the Empress to be as wide as ever.
Even now, as a mistress emerging from the bedchamber of the Emperor at daybreak into the presence of the Empress herself, Dinantes carried herself with an infuriating dignity. She wore a diaphanous satin dressing gown the colour of dying violets and her unbound hair fell over her shoulders like a shawl of black silk. She was followed closely by her handmaiden, Samelle, whose expression upon beholding the Empress conveyed all of the panic and guilt that the Countess’ did not. She quickly regained herself, however, and fixed an icy glare at Eloise, standing a few feet behind the Empress in the wide hallway. The two of them were also steeped in animosity and had come near to blows over the priority of their mistresses in the laundries.
Dinantes approached her—head high, patrician nose and piercing emerald eyes reminiscent to Demune of some voracious bird of prey.
“Empress,” she intoned, her rich voice thickly accented, and bowed slightly. “Good morning to you. I came by to see if the Emperor’s health had improved during the night.”
Indeed. “And has it?” The confounded woman had moved close enough so that Demune was forced to look up to meet her gaze directly.
The Countess’ expression was an affected pout. “Sadly not. He is still very pale, and always wracked with those terrible fits of coughing, though His Imminence seems untroubled by it. I think he means to ignore his illness entirely until it goes away.”
Demune found herself unconsciously studying the Countess as she spoke; inevitably comparing Dinantes to herself and wondering what is was about the other woman that so captivated her husband. Larger breasts, for a start, although Karmedron had professed hers for perfection on many occasions. Fuller lips, perhaps. An air of absolute confidence born from a life of luxuriant nobility.
Enough to destroy a marriage, these things? What was Karmedron thinking? It didn’t make any sense to her and she had come to resent her husband for that—and herself, for being unable to confront him.
Resent, however, was not nearly a strong enough word for what she felt for the Countess Dinantes, this malevolent enchantress from Halluel. Disgust. Loathing. Hatred, hatred, hatred. Everything had been so perfect.
“You look tired, my dear Empress.” Dinantes reach out with delicate, olive-toned fingers to stroke the side of her face and Demune’s hands clenched into fists as she fought to hide her abhorrence at the woman’s touch. The soldier’s daughter in her yearned to break every tiny bone in those fingers. “Perhaps, in the Emperor’s company, you have become ill yourself?”
Demune forced a smile. “If his illness were contagious, Countess, then I’m sure I would not be the only one afflicted.”
The slightest hint of astonishment flickered over Dinantes’ features. “Of course,” she said, then the haughty smirk. “Nonetheless. Now that I have seen to him I think you will find the Emperor…in good spirits, despite his infirmity.”
A small sound escaped Eloise, aghast at the Countess’ veiled audacity, and Samelle wore a mildly triumphant grin. Demune’s jaw clenched briefly and the soldier’s daughter screamed to be aloud to throttle this foreign swine. The Empress did her best to match the feral grin with one of her own.
“Well then, I shall endeavour with my visit to relieve him of his illness once and for all,” she replied, then said, dismissively, “You may go, Dinantes.”
While her maid seemed ready to burst, the Countess of Halluel merely nodded, the smirk still in place. “Thank you, your Highness, and good luck.” Bowing again, Dinantes gathered her robe about her and continued down the hall, Samelle in tow.
Demune, unclenching her balled fists, was surprised to find that her hands were trembling. This is ridiculous! She told herself. I am an Empress and she is a whore and yet I am terrified of her!
She is a noblewoman, born and bred, some deeper part of her chimed in, and you are a commoner. A soldier’s whelp. Your looks and your luck gave you everything you have and she would see it taken away from you.
She turned to Eloise. “I will see the Emperor alone,” she said. Her handmaiden smiled wryly and was about to say something before Demune cut her off. “I won’t be long. Go to the stables, please. Tell them I wish to go riding this afternoon, then wait for me in my rooms.”
The maid’s smile vanished and Eloise nodded, hurrying off briskly. It was commonly observed throughout the entourage of Demune’s servants and among the stable-hands and groomsmen of the Imperial stables that their beloved Empress went riding only when her disposition was either particularily good or exceptionally bad.
Demune had been riding a lot of late, it had also been noted, though she had nothing at all to be happy about.

The apartments of the emperor were not a network of antechambers and various rooms as was customary elsewhere in the Imperial Palace, but instead comprised only of a single vast chamber divided into three tiered levels by steps that stretched the width of the room. Bronze sconces were set into the walls, along with a great fireplace on each side of every level. Chain pulleys flanking the entrance connected to a number of iron-worked candelabras that were suspended at various heights throughout the chamber and could be lowered by the palace servants to be lit.
Denied access as of yet to the Emperor’s room that morning, the servants had not yet stoked the fires, and so as Demune swung closed the heavy door behind her the only light to see by was that emanating from the giant, colonnaded windows that spanned the entire length of the distant wall on the top-most tier.
Before one such window, his silhouette eclipsing the pale, white glow of morning light, stood her husband. He was turned away from her, Demune could tell, gazing westward across the sea.
In the half-light before her squatted a large cedarwood table upon which lay an enormous expanse of weathered cloth. Drawing closer, Demune could barely discern that etched upon its surface was a map. Small wooden blocks carved and painted to represent armies and fleets and fortresses overlaid what Demune recognized as the Jade Sea and it’s surrounding realms and nations. Prior to her life in the palace she had never seen a map. Names of cities and countries—like Teregad, Cirgos, and Adire—had held no genuine manifestation for her. They had only been…somewhere else, faraway places spoken of by soldiers and sailors, by her father when he returned home after months of absence.
Father. Her hand strayed idly down to the map, touched it’s surface at Endelas. Then moved west and south, over the isle of Ancha, where she had been married two autumns past, then traced across the breadth of the sea, past a host of makeshift flotillas, and into Saurisia…
To the city of Corazahn. Where you died.
A wooden figure. Green, crudely rendered into the shape of a soldier, signifying a ground force present in that city. She picked it up and held it before her, not really seeing it under a suddenly vivid rush of memories. So rarely in her life now—that of an empress—was there time for reflection on her past. She had not ventured into Low Tide, the theatre of her childhood, for more than a year now. Thought of her father most often during moments she wished she could have shared with him—moments that were less frequent now than ever, things being as they were. For the first time since her father’s death, some deeper part of Demune was glad that Gerin Cartada was not present to see what had become of his only daughter, and the thought sickened her.
With a shudder she returned the piece to its place on the map. Her gaze shifted, lighting for a moment upon another city at the centre of the map, at the mouth of a great river that ran east into the sea. Astepha. Another name, another faraway place, though she knew it to be a place of utmost importance to so many. The very heart of the world for more than a million souls.
Adjusted now to the muted light of the chamber, her eyes left the map and she made her way towards the upper landing. As she passed the massive, silk-curtained bed that dominated centre of the second level she noted with acute displeasure the excessive disarray of the emperor’s bed-sheets and had to once again wrest her thoughts away from the merciless butchery of a certain impudent countess. It crossed her mind to arrange with the head of her husband’s servants to have those sheets burned instead of laundered, that she herself might never sleep in them again.
It also crossed her mind to burn the entire bed with Dinantes in it.
A fresh morning breeze wafted in from the open windows, bearing with it the remote cries of seabirds and the familiar tang of salt that intermingled with the cloying trace of her husband’s morning offering to his Patron Emperor, Eurumex. A small statue of the long-dead Eurumex made of white ivory and inlaid with gold stood on a raised dais, a Chatrian carpet and a golden basin of still-smouldering incense at it’s feet.
Demune stood for a moment at the top of the stairs, her head swimming in a clash of emotions for the man that stood before her. What to say, or not to say. What should have been said and what she simply could not. Karmedron had not yet moved.
“If you’re waiting to witness the glory of the sunrise, I have some bad news for you,” she said, finally. A digression. “Your window faces west, and you’ve missed it entirely.”
The emperor laughed as he turned around, and subsequently succumbed to a fit of coughing. He smiled broadly after regaining himself and stepped forward to embrace her.
“Demune, I didn’t hear you come in.” His hands on her shoulders, he drew back to regard her face. His smile, she noted, almost reached his eyes.
“What were you thinking about just now?” she asked him.
And the smile died. Karmedron’s look became pensive. His eyes drifted away for a moment before finding hers again. “Come sit outside with me? Have you eaten anything yet?” She shook her head, no. “Great then, I’m ravenous.” He strode over to where a length of rope disappeared into the shadowed recesses of the ceiling and pulled once upon it. Within moments a host of servants had bustled into the emperor’s chamber and set about their well-rehearsed duties.
The candelabras were lowered and their tapers lit, the sheets and cushions of the bed were removed and replaced, and the curtains drawn back and fixed to it’s carved, cedar posts. A serene-looking man with sparse, white hair approached the emperor and his wife. He was clad in the red-trimmed, white livery of a palace attendant and bore the emblem of the Imperial House—the crossed blade and moon—over his left breast.
“Good morning, Lord Emperor. Lady Empress,” he intoned, his low bow taking in both of them, “it is a pleasure to see you.”
“And you, Calemus,” Demune replied. “You look well. How is your son doing?”
The old man smiled, “Exceedingly well, Empress. Thank you for asking. Balefor is a Captain, now, of the Imperial Army. He does his father proud and serves his noble Emperor well.”
Karmedron laughed. “And if his ethic is at all like that of his father, he will doubtless be a general before long.”
Calemus chuckled as well. “It is as the Emperor says.”
They made their way outside onto the shadowed portico and gilded pillows were fetched and set upon the stone benches there. Screens of dyed linen were positioned to shelter them from the gusting wind as food and drink were brought at the Emperor’s request. They talked as they ate, of trivial things.
There was to be a festival in a few days time to herald the newly dawned spring in the name of Heronia’s Bliss. On the first day of the celebrations the acolytes of the Idol Heronia went about the city, bequeathing at random matched sets of flowers from the gardens of their temple grounds. One such flower was bestowed to a man, while its twin went to a woman elsewhere in the city. The recipients of the floral gifts were then tasked—in the name of frivolous gaiety and the incongruous prospect of finding true love—to seek out the one who possessed the bloom similar to their own.
Karmedron had, jokingly, asked if Demune had ever been given such a flower in the time before he had known her. She told him that she had not, and was surprised to discover how guilty such a seemingly innocent lie made her feel. It had, after all, been so long ago. A few years, anyway. Another lifetime and a different her.
They spoke of the new stock of geldings that had recently arrived in the palace stables. Given first pick, even before the groomsmen of the cavalry commanders, Demune had chosen for herself a grey seventeen-hander, whom she had named Seafoam, but had yet to ride.
When they were finished eating and their plates had been cleared, the emperor dismissed the servants and asked Calemus to inform the senators that he would be calling them to assembly later that afternoon. The aged servant bowed to the empress and expressed fervent wishes to see her again soon.
Karmedron moved to seat himself on the bench beside her and was quiet for a long time. A grey-flecked gull swept onto the terrace, hoping perhaps to chance upon any scraps of the meal just past. After a meticulous, yet futile, scouring of the area he bounded up onto the marble railing, fixing them both with a sidelong glance before alighting once more into the swelling currents of the sky.
Demune hadn’t felt Karmedron take her hand in his. He opened his mouth to say something but was seized by a spasm and coughed for a moment, his head turned away from her.
“You are still sick,” she observed, with some feeling.
Her husband shook his head. “It’s nothing. Just a cold,’ he said, recovering after a few subsequent coughs. “Not even a cold. Why is it people always get sick in the springtime?”
“Perhaps because they insist on breaking their fast on windy balconies wearing nothing but a night-robe?”
Karmedron laughed, shrugged as he regarded his attire, then grinned wryly. “Emperors don’t have time for colds.”
Demune laughed along with him, despite herself. Some stray gust of wind slipped past the screens then, sweeping over them both and whipping tendrils of golden hair across her face. Karmedron reached out to brush the strands aside as the bluster died away and his eyes, blue as the distant sea, held hers fast. She could feel his touch, warm and delicate on the skin of her cheek.
“You are so beautiful,” he said.
Then why!? she wanted to ask. Why Dinantes? Why has she shared your bed these past weeks and not I? But she could not, she knew. Oh, she might have found the strength to ask the questions, but to bear the weight of the answers…
Demune looked away, for fear her face would betray the warring tumult of emotions within, and hoped she managed a sincerely demure smile. Her husband said nothing else, and after a moment she felt his hand slacken in hers. When she looked back, his gaze was once again riveted to the western horizon.
“I have something to tell you, Demune.”
“It’s something I should have told you long before now, because it concerns you as well…”
No. Stop!
“…and I need to know how you feel about it.”
Quite suddenly, every part of her that had wanted to confront her husband, to question his infidelity and demand it’s explanation, was quashed—overshadowed by the avid desire to have things remain as they were. At least until he confessed it himself, Demune could pretend. She could sustain her threadbare pride under some semblance of normality and desperately hope, as Phydia had alleged, that all this would someday pass—that the allure of the Countess of Halluel would shortly fade, and in time things would be as they were before.
She had to stop him, make him understand that she knew, but that…that what? That it was fine? She was okay with it? That she understood why it had to be this way? The very thought of uttering such things filled her with loathing, but what else was left to her, if not pride?
“We are going to war.”
Shock. Bewilderment. Relief.
“What?” she asked. She was still struggling to sort it out in her head, forcing herself to suppress the profound sense of respite swelling inside her while simultaneously attempting to digest the all-encompassing implications of what her husband had just told her. Some small part of her mind still sought to comprehend how Dinantes figured into this.
Karmedron cleared his throat, a precautionary measure, it seemed, to be certain what he said next went uninterrupted by a hoarseness of the voice or a wracking cough, the trappings of illness. When he spoke, his voice was crisp and clear, bolstered by passion and solemn conviction.
“A war is coming,” he said, “in which our nation, perhaps every nation, will be swept up. Consumed. I know this—I can feel it. And Kaladar…our Empire…is on the brink of something, Demune. A revelation.”
As she listened, Demune thought of the map she had seen earlier. A scrap of weathered cloth, interlaced with erratic lines of dark ink. Countries. Borders. Scripted words, describing cities and their multitudes. Wooden figures representing murderous hosts of sons and fathers. A world made simple for the conquering eye.
“And who emerges from this conflict,” her husband continued, “who stands when all others have fallen, will have a world to remake—to rebuild and reforge—into something better. A single, unified empire!”
In her minds eye she could see the map burning, from its heart outward. Dry linen curling and blackening in the spreading flame, disintegrating into grey ash. Countries erased, names obliterated in the blaze. Dyed figurines smouldering, crumbling into cinders. What could be rebuilt of cinders? What reborn from ashes?
Karmedron was watching her, visibly dismayed by the distress evident on her face. “You will see, Demune. I will show you. Don’t—“ he broke off, coughing, and glanced away. The shadows of the balcony had waned as the morning passed. The sun, climbing in the east behind the bulk of the Imperial palace, now bathed the city below in dazzling light and crept across the warming stone of the terrace, almost at their feet now.
“The reason I tell you of this,” he said, his tone now drained of its former zeal, “why I asked to see you this morning…is because I would ask something of you.” She could see him searching for words, watched his jaw set. “War is a capricious thing, Demune. Much is risked and sometimes lost.”
Where was this going? Her mind seemed sluggish, always one step behind what he was saying to her.
“We both have suffered. Your father was a brave soldier, and was stolen from you. My father was Emperor, and taken from me. War cares nothing for station, or whether you are young or old. On the battlefield, the lives of kings and common men are all as candles in the rain.”
Demune was seized with a chilling sensation of foreboding, like she was swimming, knowing that something lurked below the surface of the water. Like expecting a horse to fall on you from the night sky.
“When a soldier falls on the field, Demune, another comes forward to fill his place in the line, to continue his fight. But when their leader falls…when an Emperor dies…”
What was this?
“There must be another Emperor. And what I need to ask of you, Demune,” said her husband, as the sweeping partition of sunlight finally overcame them, enveloping the Emperor and Empress of Kaladar in its drenching warmth, “is that you give me that Emperor…an heir to my throne. That you give me a son.”
Shock again. Bewilderment.
But nothing even close to relief. view post

Of Kings and Emperors... posted 14 December 2004 in Author Q & AOf Kings and Emperors... by Gable, Candidate

Ok. Well. I did it. Erthaelion, other forum members, and heck, Mr. Bakker, if time allows...I posted two chapters from my work in the members works. Once I've completed the segment I'm working on (after Christmas or so) I'll be sure to try and workshop it. In the meantime, any feedback would be great. Good AND bad, hehe. Thanks alot. The Post in the written works is just called 'Nicholas Eames.' Anyone can feel free to e-mail me thier critique as well, at <!-- e --><a href=""></a><!-- e -->
Oh! And hey! My member status went up! BOW BEFORE ME!!!!!! haha Cya! view post

Do you believe a God exists? posted 14 December 2004 in Philosophy DiscussionDo you believe a God exists? by Gable, Candidate


Although, I can't say for sure, because hey--how would I know? I don't.
And neither does anyone else. No one. Not one person has any idea. At all. Nobody. Not a soul. That old guy--with the white hair? He has no clue! How would he? No one can!

So,, I don't view post

Nicholas Eames Chapter Six posted 14 December 2004 in Member Written WorksNicholas Eames Chapter Six by Gable, Candidate

Hey...Chapter 6. One of my favorite chapters. Read away if you have the time--I'd love to hear what you think. Thanks


SQUINTING AGAINST THE reflected glare of the cresting sun, the young musician studied the face of the dead emperor Agamestian with a slight frown, noting the clean-shaven, square jaw; the arched, patrician nose; and the Laurel Crown perched on his high brow. His gaze then shifted to visage of the departed emperor Tovadron IV, and for the life of him he could not discern a difference between the two. Which stood to reason, he decided, since whichever monarch’s facade was upon it, a mex was a still a mex. And a mex, he also determined, was far too much to waste on a beggar.
Endelas, as vast and grand a city as she was, had more than her share of urchins. The streets and shaded alleys of Low Tide veritably teemed with the city’s less fortunate denizens. Ex-soldiers and mercenaries, crippled veterans of faraway wars, slumped in pathetic heaps against the walls of taverns and brothels, crying out of the grievances heaped upon them by an unjust and callous state. Those who had lost their wits in drink or gambled away their souls on an unlucky roll of the dice kept swaggering stride alongside passer-by’s long enough to suggest that a single mex or two thrown their way could see them up and on their feet again. Wren had watched them, seen them shrink away in contrived gratitude at the drop of a half-piece or howl scornful profanities when rebuked, until the next promising face passed near and the deplorable dance began anew.
There were those in Low Tide that had never stood a chance, having been born or abandoned into poverty as infants. Some of these Wren could almost feel sorry for, despite the depraved manner of their livelihood. Reed-thin girls (most of them younger than he) calling out from windows and haunted doorways to men walking by, youthful skin and wanton eyes promising immoralities sold for silver coin. Boys who slipped through crowds, slicing purse-bottoms and rifling the pockets of the unmindful.
Still others, like Wren’s own father, had been merchants or traders, for whom a risky stake on a doomed shipment had proved ultimately ruinous. Those who didn’t take their own lives, leaving sons to fend for themselves in a ruthless world, either lapsed into declining stupors or contrived petty schemes to restore themselves to prosperity once again.
There were many ways in which the world could break someone. Many ways in which the broken strove to survive.
Some Wren knew of took up paints and brushes, set up makeshift stalls in crowded plazas and painted scenes and portraits on sanded stone or brittle parchment, auctioning them off afterwards to onlookers who had gathered to watch them work. Some banded together in troupes, contrived simple scripts and acted out farces in the streets, crude but amusing mockeries of the epic dramas performed by the Histriones in Dethyuses’ Bowl, the grand theatre of the upper-city. There was a man, most often found near the steps of the Antikon Forum, who juggled ceramic jars filled with water, and who, he’d heard many claim, never spilled a drop.
As Wren saw it, you had to give something in order to expect something back. How could one expect charity and offer nothing in return? Even the whores, he grudgingly accepted, gave something, however much it seemed to him a surrender, rather than a gift. You gave what you had to give, was what it came down to, he supposed. And Wren gave them music.
Closing his hands on the coins (the sum of two days spent in the Emporium district) and slipping them into the inside pocket of his ragged coat, Wren returned his attention across the plaza, to the man sitting on the ground at the base of the statue of Mexus, First Emperor of Kaladar. He knew the urchin at once by the particular, defeated slump of his bearing and by the tattered, darkly stained Imperial Standard he wore swathed around him like a pestilent shawl.
Rorges sat heaped against the north side of the statue, facing the vaulted gate that led out of Low Tide to the upper tiers of the city. He was begging for change, as always. And, as always, offering absolutely nothing in return.
Wren shifted the weight of the kithara slung across his back, then made his way across the plaza, smiling kindly at those he passed—a smile that withered to a grimace as he entered the radius of Rorges’ foul reek. The beggar groaned piteously at his approach, raised his beleaguered head called out to him.
“Spare a tenth-piece, kind lord, for an old soldier,” he whimpered, his voice affecting that of someone truly beset by the hardships of this cruel world. “Alas, the wars have taken all I have—cast my life into ruin to spite my valour!”
The musician said nothing, observed the wretched farce impassively as he reached into his pocket and withdrew one of the silver mexx. Rorges, discerning the sound of clinking coins even as he struggled to make out the figure before him against the late morning sun, renewed his efforts.
“Mercy, I beg you,” he persisted, “I carry not only my own scars, but those of my brave comrades as well, smote by the heathen sword of the distant east! I was witness as dearest Captain Cleodron, like a brother to me, had his left arm hacked off by the enemy as his right lay trapped and ruined beneath his own fallen steed. Unable to wield a sword or bear a shield in service to his nation, he was cast away by the country he served—and now crippled and destitute, he is forsaken by those he fought to protect! Such injustice in the fate of Kaladar’s brave sons! Such atrocities torment my every moment! Have pity upon me, a tenth-piece only!”
Again something within Wren revolted at the idea of giving money he had earned to this beggar. Must remember, he chided himself, you can make here in a few hours what a day in the emporiums, or even the forums, will earn you. The upper-castes often had a keener appreciation for music he had come to realize: a luxury afforded by a life free of the ever-present threat of looming poverty. And they had money to spend on such luxuries, he knew, that would be wasted upon scum like Rorges.
He stood silent a moment longer, gleaning considerable satisfaction in the vagrant’s obvious expectance before he finally spoke. “And were it dearest Captain Cleodron before me, in his tragic state, I might well take pity on him for all the terrible woe he has and must endure. But you, Rorges, are not Cleodron.” The vagrant gave a start at hearing his own name, his demeanour shifting at once from abject diffidence to bewildered hostility.
“What’s this?” he asked, raising a grimy hand against the glare.
“Your right arm looks hale enough, though. And your left—decidedly intact. I’ve seen you fight, Rorges, outside the pubs on Seafront. You’re not a lame. You bear no scars I’ve seen that a laundry maid could not also possess. If you bear crippling wounds it is not to your arms, but to your self worth and your pride.”
Rorges’ retort was a string of obscenities spit out between fits of chocking coughs. His free hand swiped futilely at the air between he and the musician while his other, (concealed until now within his raged clothes to further credit his disgraceful ruse, Wren surmised) appeared, brandishing a sloshing leather ale-skin as one would a cudgel.
Wren remained where he stood, unmoving, and waited for the beggars rage to subside. The skin in Rorges hand ceased its use as a potential weapon and was unstoppered, raised to blistered lips and gulped down. When he had drained the skin almost empty, the vagrant wiped at his matted beard with the soiled cloth of the threadbare standard and then fixed upon Wren with bleak, bloodshot eyes.
“Fuck off,” he muttered.
Wren raised his hand, the silver mex held between two fingers and Rorges gawked up at it like a second sun had come into the sky.
“H-hey, hey,” he stammered, in a tone suddenly as forthcoming as Wren guessed he could muster, “you’re that kid. That singer-kid what plays the lyre, right?”
“Wrenian. And it’s a kithara—not a lyre.”
Rorges shuffled around beneath his rags so that he was not sitting but now on his knees before Wren. “Aye, yes. I’ve heard you play. Not bad at all. Where was that at now? The Red Anchor, maybe? You ever play there?”
“No, eh? Hmm. I know ya from somewhere. Just a kid though, huh? You don’t know nuthin then—not a damned thing. Ever hold a sword, boy?”
“Rorges,” Wren interjected, cutting off what might have been another tirade of wartime miseries, “I have a proposal for you. You see this mex here?” The beggar said nothing, but his expression grew wary. “I mean to give it to you, for the price of a small favour. You beg for iron and bronze, yet I offer you the chance for silver in a single moment.”
Rorges spat and shook his head. “You ain’t that pretty, boy.”
When it dawned on him what the beggar had implied Wren almost laughed aloud. He almost heaved up the contents of his stomach as well. “Don’t flatter yourself, Rorges. I’d rather fuck the horse you supposedly rode into war. No, what I want from you is this spot right here. The statue, the entire plaza. I want you to move somewhere else for a while, a week or so, until after festival to Idol Heronia.”
The beggar’s look of suspicion grew. “You’d offer me a silver just to move on? Why’s that, eh? What’s so special about this here spot?”
“Nothing, really,” Wren lied. This plaza would be teeming with upper-castes and merchants in the days to come. “It’s a broad space, is all—perfect to play music, room for a crowd.”
“Perfect for music?” asked Rorges.
“Indeed, it is. And its elevation is just right. Being higher up like this makes for a clearer sound.” Which was horseshit, and he didn’t really know why he’d said it, but Rorges looked confused, which he deemed a good thing for the moment.
“Hmm. I don’t know…” Rorges eyed the coin Wren held like a starved wolf who had stumbled upon a stray sheep, yet whose hungry greed compelled him to wonder whether the rest of the flock lay somewhere nearby. “A single mex…I might earn that in a day, ‘round these parts. Some noble lordling out for a stroll may favour me with fortune to impress his young bride, you never know. Besides,” he added, indicating the statue behind him with a cock of his head, “Ol’ Mexus here keeps me company.”
The bastard was actually trying to get more money out of him! For the briefest instant Wren considered presenting the other coin in his pocket, but no—this plaza was by no means guaranteed to prove fruitful, and besides, that was all the money he had in this world. Apart from his savings, of course, but his savings was not to be touched, at any cost. Rorges would have to settle for a single mex, absurd as that sounded. But he’d need to be convinced first.
“Company, you say? This old codger here?” Wren laughed, “Were it living flesh instead bitter stone it would still possess a beard! And to bed an Emperor? Might be a costly thing, old man. But think of what this silver could grant you here, in Low Tide. Company indeed! Why, the lovely ladies of the Jackal’s Den or Shade might well mistake you for a prince of Kaladar, come to call on them in secret for some carnal indulgence. Such a place would be to you as a harem of the distant west! The best girl in the house for a silver mex, or four, even, of lesser repute. Think of it!”
“Bah! Sick-tents, those places. Dwellings of disease and infection. I knows a man what had ‘emself some old harpy over at the Jackal—poor fella’s prick turned green as spring grass and his legs started rotting from the top down!”
“Fine, forget the brothels then,” Wren began, before the beggar cut him off.
“Now the Seashell—there’s a place a man can get his mex’s worth! Beauties of every sort you could want for. Cost a man like me near a month’s earnings for a night there, but worth every charger, yessir! A fine establishment!”
“The Seashell is no better than anywhere else,” Wren stated, suddenly bristling, and starting to think that coming to Rorges in the first place had been a very bad idea. “Any whore-house is the same as the next. Now will you move or not?”
The vagrant scoffed, “And what’re you, boy, a sage on the matter? A regular regular, eh? Why, I’d—hey…” he straightened abruptly, leaned forward to peer more closely at the young musician. “Ah ha! I knew I recognized you from somewhere! The Seashell! That’s it! That’s where I seen you play, right?”
Wren said nothing for a long moment. He felt his jaw set, felt his left hand close slowly, tightly around the silver coin in his palm. He nodded.
“I knew it! Didn’t realized they let them in as young as you—well, the boys anyhow. Say, that’s a fine arrangement you’ve got there, playing music for the whores!” Rorges laughed, Wren grimaced and glanced away from the blistered mouth of corroded brown teeth. “Say, I can sing. Maybe I should learn to play the lyre too, eh?”
“It’s a kithara,” Wren corrected, but the beggar wasn’t listening.
“I know a couple songs those lasses might get a kick out of. Say, you don’t suppose you could cut old Rorges deal, do ya boy? Get me in for cheap?”
“No, I can’t,” Wren replied. “Forget the Seashell, alright? I don’t want to talk about it. Listen, do we have a deal or not? Just take the silver, old man, so I can start making music and you can go somewhere else and pretend to be crippled, okay?”
Rorges appeared contemplative for an instant, musing, Wren hoped, on whether or not to accept the coin. “Now,” he said, “it’s been some time since I was there last, but there was this girl…”
Wren ground his teeth until he thought they would snap and shatter.
“…long, straight brown hair…smooth, pale skin…”
He could feel the mex in his clenched hand. Burning. Like a searing ember.
“…and freckles! Oh, such a darling, that one. Not the youngest anymore, I’ll wager—or the purest (a wicked laugh at this)—but most certain she is the sweetest! What was that one’s name again? Lyssa? No…Tia? Thyia?”
“Thyria! That was her name.” The old beggar’s tongue slithered over his lips, his eyes alight now with lewd malice. “Aye, you’ve a deal, son. I’ll take your silver. A fair enough start, I’d say, towards buying her ripe little ass for a night—“
Wren’s right hand shot out in a claw, clamping tight on Rorges’ throat and driving him backwards. His head cracked loudly against the stone base of the statue as his weathered hands came up, weakly trying to pry loose the musician’s unyielding grip. Rorges gurgled and wheezed, his eyes lolling in their sockets as his face darkened to a plum-coloured hue. Wren moved forward, leaned in close enough to smell the putrid heat of Rorges breath, had the vagrant had the capacity to muster any.
“Never touch her,” he spoke, in a voice wavering on the edge of wrath. “Never. Or I swear by every Idol I’ll put my lyre so far up your ass that dearest Captain Cleodron would toss you a coin out of pity. You understand me, you disgusting fuck?”
Perceiving the old soldier’s choking rasp as assent, Wren released his grasp upon the man’s neck and turned from him. Only as he strode away, fumbling with a shaking hand to return the mex to his inside pocket, did he consider how close he had come to doing something…drastic. A furtive glance around revealed that no one seemed to have taken particular notice of his encounter with Rorges.
To hell with the plaza. He’d simply have to find another location to ply his trade for the festival. More than certainly the temple grounds of Idol Heronia themselves were already crowded enough, but there were always alternatives. He had to think—to keep thinking. Anything to distract his thoughts from the Seashell. The damnable Seashell, and from her.
Behind him in the square, Rorges had clambered to his knees once more. One hand traced his throat, red and raw where the musician’s fingers had nearly squeezed the life from him. The other hand he tucked behind him, hidden beneath the shredded remnants of the imperial standard he wore as a cloak. He looked around, hopeful that someone had seen his mistreatment and so would perhaps be more inclined to offer recompense. No one had, it seemed. Or at least they pretended not to. So he called out to them.
He had been a soldier once, he told them, valiant and brave. But war had robbed him of everything, and his nation had all but forgotten him. He beseeched them for mercy, for what he had endured. He implored them for pity, for what he had become.
A beggar at the feet of an emperor.

Bathyaes called out to him as he stalked through street and square towards Seafront, unable to purge his thoughts of all that Rorges had implied. He waved as Wren turned, and said something quickly to the woman standing beside him before starting out across the street, offering smiles and apologies to those who’s path he crossed.
“My friend!” he said as he approached, taking both the musician’s hands in his own, larger ones. “Maera’s Wisdom guide and guard you, Wrenian. You look well.”
“Thank you, I am,” Wren replied, already feeling heartened by the sheer exuberance Bathyaes always seemed to emanate. “And yourself? How fares the plight of Maera and her devoted followers against the tyrannical reign of Idol Pervinca?”
“Well. It’s going really well.” His friend nodded enthusiastically, shooting a quick glance behind him at the woman he’d been talking to and the few others around her, all dressed in the same blue and gold robes as Bathyaes himself. Wren recognized Idella, the woman, who was watching them both now with the expression of a noblewoman who’s hound has strayed from her side to consort with some scruffy street mongrel.
A pretty enough girl, Wren supposed, aside from the scowl that stole over her face whenever Bathyaes—who had lived, for most of his twenty and two years, as an urchin on the streets of Low Tide—associated with his old friends. Having taken up the righteous cause of supplanting the current Idol of Prudence and Good Judgment, Pervinca, with their own virtuous champion, the followers of Maera were supposed to have forsaken the worldly shackles of social standing in favour of divine tolerance. Idella, Wren also supposed, had forgotten that. Once a patrician…
“We’re hosting an Observance tonight, up in Mummer’s Court, then marching upon the temple of Pervinca with the sunrise. You should come, Wren. We couldn’t pay you, I’m afraid, but your music would make a long night seem less so. A reason to stay awake, at least. Any excuse to get out of Low Tide for a few hours is a good one, I should think. Idella’s managed to secure me a pass until noon tomorrow, but they’d hardly stop you at the gate if you told them your business.” Bathyaes was often doing this—trying to steer Wren onto the same path as himself. He’d once insisted that the two of them join the army together and had only been dissuaded upon discovering that Wren, who’s father had not been born in the Empire, would have to serve in a separate corps than he. Likewise, he had, almost a year ago now, fallen in love with Idella the Scowler and had ever since thrown himself heart-and-soul into her cause. Wren had to admit though, that his friend seemed happier and more content (if slightly more fanatic) every time they ran into one another.
“I’m sorry, I can’t tonight. I have to play,” Wren apologized.
Bathyaes only looked slightly disappointed. “That’s alright,” he replied, without asking where Wren would be playing, for which the young musician was glad. He hated lying to friends. “Where are you off to now?”
Wren shrugged. “Not sure, really. Looking for a good place to sit down, I guess. Make some music. It’s all about finding a good crowd.”
“Tell me about it,” said Bathyaes. “This Idol stuff can really incite some people, you wouldn’t believe it. We faced a mob during the festival last month that nearly chased us right into the sea! I ought to arm myself for tonight, just in case.” He grinned, “I’d have been safer as a soldier, and get paid better as well!”
Wren grimaced, “Speaking of soldiers, I just had a talk with our friend Rorges,” then laughed, “seems he’s got it pretty rough. Some really terrible things befell some people he used to kind of know.”
“Fucking Rorges,” Bathyaes swore—too loudly, he realized immediately—and looked back to be sure of Idella’s reproving glare. He waved at her, somehow managing to smile and cringe at the same time, then turned back to Wren. “I had better go,” he said.
The hound feels the tug of his master’s leash, thought the musician, and smiled. “It was good seeing you, Bath. Be safe, okay?”
His friend clapped him on the shoulder, “You as well, my friend.”
“And give my best to Idella, will you?”
Bathyaes managed to look his most pious. “Maera’s Wisdom guide and guard me.”

Upon his very first sight of The Seventh Tempest, Wren thought it at once the most disparate and magnificent ship he had ever laid eyes on. His father had been a seafarer, had spent much of Wren’s childhood away on one commercial voyage or another. He had, on a number of occasions, even brought his young son along on such journeys—‘to enrich your spirit,’ Wren thought he could remember his father saying, ‘and give you a taste of the wider world.’ Before his death—a lifetime ago, it often seemed—he had begun to instil in Wren a rudimentary understanding of sea borne commerce and the mercantile vocation, as well as a fundamental understanding of naval vessels themselves.
And it was this knowledge that enabled him to see the ship for what she was: makeshift and motley, a bastard of the sea. Her hull was larger and longer than most imperial galleons, but just as sleek, with a high bow and three staggered banks of oars on either side. The deck was stepped at the stern to allow for a cabin space beneath, clearly of Teregad design. Her main sail was split and divided on either side of the mast in the fashion of the nimble warships of Ruangoth, each rigged to it’s own yardarm that could pivot separate from the other to allow—able crew permitting—for alarming feats of manoeuvrability. Upon each sail was emblazoned the serpentine dragon of Ruan folklore, red upon gold. The foresail was angled like a spearhead and ribbed in the Narmiir fashion for strength and stability. Mounted upon its prow in tarnished bronze was an effigy of the Kraken, Gol, who was worshipped still, it was said, by many of the pagan island tribes of the Jade Sea.
‘As near perfect as a ship can be,’ his father had said of The Seventh Tempest, when he had first pointed it out to his young son. And indeed, whenever it had found anchorage at Endelas over the past years, it never failed to remind Wren of his father and stir in him the same sense of awe and exhilaration, the promise of the unknown, as it had when he was still just a boy and the future full of possibility.
He’d spotted her from the top of Memorial Hill as he made his way down and east towards the water, her golden sails blazing in the sun as she passed between the towering Colossi and into the harbour proper, and been struck with a sudden idea. Let Rorges have his plaza. Let those stuffy nobles be audience to his melancholy—he’d found a better crowd, or so he’d hoped.
Quickening his pace, he began to cut through alleys as he tracked the ships progress across the harbour. As he cut between buildings to bypass a particularly crowded street, a dishevelled-looking man sitting on the ground against a wall accosted him.
“Please sir, some coin to spare? Or a scrap to eat for me or my mutt?” he asked, indicated the mangy dog asleep beside him. Wren didn’t stop—either to be charitable or to lecture the man on the ridiculousness of keeping a pet when you lived on the city streets.
Upon reaching the Grandmarch, he skirted its high wall until he arrived at the stairs down to the next crossing, and then waited for a cessation in the traffic to cross. The major thoroughfare of Endelas was terribly congested for most of the day, as it was the only street upon which horses and wagons were allowed to pass up through the city. Most of the freight was delivered by mule-drawn carts during the night.
By the time Wren came to the docks The Seventh Tempest had just tied up to the quay. A Registrar and a number of soldiers were standing by to inspect and insure the legality of her cargo. Wren sat down on a bench carved into the stone ledge of the wharf and un-slung his kithara from over his shoulder. For a while he simply laid back, the instrument light upon his chest, and basked in the warming heat of the afternoon sun. After a time, as he lay there, the sounds of Low Tide began to fade from his ears—first the humming drone of the city itself, then the cries of the gulls wheeling in the sky overhead and the rhythmic thump and creak of ships at their moorings—until only the ceaseless murmur of the sea remained, enveloping him. The whisper of water and stone.
Eventually he heard voices nearby, and the sound of coarse laughter. He opened his eyes to the world again, blinking at its brightness, and saw that the crew had begun to disembark, bearing armloads of their shipment with them down the wide gangplank. He’d never been this close to the ship before, but wasn’t surprised to see that the crew comprised entirely of freeborn sailors, as opposed to the slaves employed by most fleets of the world to man the oars in the sweltering galleries below-decks. He found them, as well, to be as curious and varied as The Seventh Tempest herself.
Here were men of every ilk and colour, boasting the accent and attire of at least two-dozen nations. They conversed with one another as they worked, laughing often, and time and again one of them would stand and gaze up at the magnificence of the Imperial City, shielding his eyes against the blinding sunlight.
When Wren plucked the first few chords of a song on his Kithara they smiled at him and nodded their appreciation. As he began to play through the song after song—beginning with those he knew to be more suited towards the life of the seaman—they even seemed to quicken the pace of their work, the music becoming an underlying cadence to their labours.
Massive barrels of banded oak were rolled down the plank; wooden crates and sackcloth bags of produce and harvest vegetables stacked beside them. Delicate pottery was borne by calloused hands and arrayed carefully on the stone bench beside the musician. Baskets of dyed cloth and clay amphorae of ale and wine (many empty) were unloaded, and a long cage housing a number of large, crimson-scaled lizards was set nearby. The cargo, Wren thought amusingly, would be outdone in contrast by neither ship nor crew.
At one point, as he reached the rousing climax of A cask and a kiss, one of the sailors—an islander by the look of him, whose dark skin was etched almost entirely in darker tattoos—broke into chorus with him from where he stood on the foredeck.
“You may take my golden coins, they’re really not something I’d miss,” he sang, “my house and my horse would be worth no remorse, but leave me a cask and a kiss!” The crewman laughed and clapped as their fellow climbed dramatically into the rigging, and when next the chorus came along many more of them chimed in. The song ended in uproarious cheer, some calling for the musician to play it again while others shouted out requests of their own. Wren beamed at them. An audience indeed, he thought, and his heart leapt as he saw many of them rummaging through satchels and pockets, fishing out coins and small trinkets, intending to award him for his entertainment.
A disembodied voice, commanding and resonant, as if the ship herself had spoken.
The man in the rigging scrambled down like a monkey at marketplace, looked to fashion some manner of excuse to the figure who now stood at the top of the gangplank, managing to include the entire assemblage in his iron glare.
“Give him nothing,” the captain boomed. “The man who spares a coin will stay aboard and count planks until we set sail again. Get back to work.”
The islander’s words died in his mouth and he stooped to retrieve the basket he’d been carrying. The crew of the Seventh Tempest suddenly became an assiduously hardworking bunch as coins disappeared, trinkets were stowed away, and tasks were resumed with an industriousness that not even music had previously induced.
Wren’s own objection withered on his lips as he looked up to discover the captain’s hard stare upon him and he silently cursed himself a moment later when he turned his own eyes away.
For a long while he sat in silence, thinking, at first, about how much he detested this day so far, and Rorges, and the harsh captain who’d appeared as if from nowhere to quash his hopes of sudden wealth, until his thoughts dwindled to nothingness. Staring down, he admired his hands: lithe and long-fingered—he’d have to clean his nails before tonight—and the elegant craftsmanship of the kithara in his lap. A gift, the instrument had been, father to son. Not really intended to be played. Never meant to sustain him through poverty. He examined his sandals. A week or two before they expired, he guessed.
Around him, the sailors toiled in silence.
Finally turning his thoughts and his gaze from his own sorry condition, Wren looked out past the sprawling dockyard and the giants of bronze who stood silent vigil over it, across the sea, to the far horizon. He watched the sky dim from blue to violet. Watched the sun make its journey into the distant west and dreamt absently of following it.
By then the crew of The Seventh Tempest had finished their labours and had assembled in full, roughly two hundred men, upon the wharf, where their captain addressed them in the gathering dusk.
“T’is been a long journey,” the musician heard him say, “and not without its share of trials. Drink your heart’s fill tonight, mates, and enjoy your time in the city, for it shan’t be long. Keep your eyes open, your heads low and your mouths shut. Four days from now, we sail. Report by noon that day, sober and seaworthy. And by the Deep God’s sopping beard, Danel, no strumpets in tow this time, please.” A swell of laughter at this. The accused raised his hands in a gesture of blamelessness.
The captain continued, “No fighting and no weapons off the ship. The laws of the city permit no arms in the streets, and the last thing we need is Imperial attention. If you—“
A disembodied voice, piercing and filled with a muted sorrow, as if the sea herself had spoken:

When this night falls upon me, have I seen the end of light?
Shall I ever learn what fortune lies beyond my mortal sight?

When darkness casts its midnight cloak, will daylight come once more?
Do I dwell on heaven’s threshold or charge through damnation’s door?

When shadow’s cup runs over, will that black tide drown out what I’ve done?
If those I’ve loved remember might I wake to see the sun?

Never my heart falters
Ever must I fight
Never finding solace
Ever war my plight

When the sun descends upon me, I shall to this final twilight yield
Let darkness be my sword now, let shadow be my shield…

Wren’s voice trailed into silence. His fingers played out the last notes of the song, music fading like the stars at dawn. There was silence. Wren, eyes transfixed on the ground before him, couldn’t see the faces of the gathered crewman. He missed the almost imperceptible nod of the grave captain. Failed to see the tattooed islander feign to scratch an itch near the corner of his right eye.
The captain resumed his address to the crew in quiet tones, after which, aside from those charged with the unlucky duty of standing watch over the cargo until the transport arrived, then men began to set off in low-talking clusters towards the awaiting pubs and brothels of Seafront. As had been ordered, no coins were tossed the musician’s way, though one sailor ‘accidentally’ dropped a tin flask, flashing Wren a conspiratorial wink before moving on without retrieving it.
The wind had begun to pick up—the night would be a cool one. Wren looked to the city, sparkling on the hillside. On the farthest heights he could see the vastness of the Imperial Palace, then the city below, with its great temples and vaulted domes. Its statues of Idols and Champions and Emperors—monoliths of bronze and stone, striding the streets like gods. And then there was Low Tide, crouched and cramped at the base of the hill, the gnarled roots of a towering empire.
The scuff of boot on stone startled him and Wren turned to see the captain bending to retrieve the discarded flask. The man straightened and Wren saw his face clearly for the first time in the fading light. Younger than the musician had expected of the captain of such a ship—hardly more than thirty winters, the musician surmised, despite the ravages that wind and sun and a hard life at sea had etched upon his features. His hair and beard were still jet black, both braided tight with leather strings that dangled with tiny, multicoloured beads and shells, so that when he moved to sit on the bench beside Wren they made a faint, clattering music. A brown scar, long ago healed, ran from the hairline on the left of his forehead almost straight down to his chin. The eye it bisected—the one nearer to Wren—was as pale as the winter sun, as if the iris itself had been drained of pigment by the wound. Wren decided immediately not to ask about how such a scar came to be.
“An ancient song,” said the captain, “and a sad one.” Even when he spoke quietly his voice seemed to grate—years of barking out commands and calling out the stroke of oars had roughened it to match the man himself. “The last song of the Warrior-Poet, Gable, ‘A Dirge for Hope’, which he sang to his army of peers at the siege of Grandual when the Satamites invaded. Not a song I’d expect to hear anymore, especially from a Kaladarian, at least not as you played it.” He said it reverently, a compliment.
“My father was from Hollan,” Wren replied. “A spice merchant. He taught it to me when I was young.”
The captain regarded him a moment. “Aye. I see it now. Does your father still live in Endelas?”
“He’s dead.”
“Ah.” It was all he said, without apology over how sorry he was to hear it. No condolences for how the world was. He unstoppered the flask and, after a precautionary sniff, tipped it back. “Burrhus,” he murmured, licking his lips, recognizing its former owner by its content. “Saurisian honey-ale.” He offered it to Wren who, usually not inclined to accept drink from strangers—or to drink at all, in fact—had to admit to being somewhat intrigued by the idea of an exotic ale, and by the stranger offering it.
“Thanks,” said Wren, accepting it and taking a pull. It tasted like any old beer to him. “It’s good,” he said, handing it back.
The captain shrugged, taking another swill before closing it and setting it on the stone between them. He gestured at the instrument in the musician’s lap. “You play that quite skilfully. Did your father teach you that as well?”
Wren shook his head. “I learnt on my own. Few in the city play the kithara, or care to teach it—in Low Tide anyway.”
“It is said that the Warrior-Poet himself was a kitharist of surpassing ability,” the man beside him said. Something Wren had not known. “He claimed that it was the instrument that could most purely emulate the soul and spirit of man.”
Wren’s turn to shrug. “It buys the bread for me,” he said matter-a-factly, despite feeling a touch of pride at what the captain had said of his chosen instrument’s lofty heritage. A father’s gift. The soul and spirit of man.
The captain looked at him directly—one dark eye, one light. “Is that all?”
Unable to hold the other man’s eerie gaze, Wren looked down and away. Neither said anything for a short while. The last light of the sun was smouldering in the west, painting sea and sky in crimson hues. Muted voices and the faint scent of pipe-weed wafted over from where the sailors waited with the cargo.
“Back there, when I was singing earlier,” Wren began, himself surprised to have mustered the courage to do so, “Why did you tell them—your men—not to give me anything?”
The captain took up the flask again and drank deeply. Wren politely refused when it was offered. “Because,” the older man said finally, “those men have earned their share, as meagre a sum as it is for what they must endure each voyage. Not many of them bother to save anything—why would they? A man who makes a life for himself at sea expects to die at sea—it is a fool who does not—and you take nothing with you to the Great Deep when you go. That we make harbour in the Grand City of Endelas means that likely half of them will have been swindled out of their coin by dicers and harlots come tomorrow morning, and will come to me seeking an advance on their next pay, which I, of course, am loath to do. So, in part, I sought to stop them from squandering their coin before they even so much as left the docks.”
Wren opened his mouth in protest but was silenced by the captain’s raised hand. “Your pride is wounded. I am sorry. I meant no offence to you personally. In fact, another reason I forbade them compensate you is that I wished to do it myself.”
The captain unlaced a pouch at his side and drew forth something swathed in cloth. He set in on his lap and began, carefully, to open it, speaking as he did so. “For the unwarranted entertainment of my men today, I would have paid you in silver. Perhaps, had I been feeling excessively generous, I might even have given you an imperial laurel.”
Wren felt his mouth go dry. His thoughts flickered momentarily to the Plaza of Mexus and his confrontation with Rorges. If the vagrant-soldier hadn’t angered him so…
“But for that last song…” the captain continued, seemingly searching for the right words. “It was a gift, truly. And so I, in return, offer you such as I have to give.” Finished unwrapping the cloth, he held up before the young musician what had been safely stored inside it. “It just so happens I’m feeling rather magnanimous today.”
Gold. Gold. A necklace of some sort—Wren could barely think—a golden crescent, like a quarter moon. A slinking chain of delicate, interlocking links, shimmering before his eyes in the dying light.
“A bauble I picked up in Aldea. I don’t expect you to wear it, of course, but to sell it…you’d be robbed if your got less than twenty-five imperials for it, I should think.”
Wren hadn’t moved. Couldn’t seem to find his voice, his eyes fixated on the golden trinket suspended in the air before him. How many months’ earnings was something such as this worth? And this man, this stranger, whose name Wren didn’t even know (had he even offered his own? —he couldn’t remember) was giving him this for a song. Just a song, which had come to him from nowhere, as sudden as a squall, as he had sat watching the sunset, thinking about the man who had taught it to him.
There was a clattering rumble behind him, wooden cartwheels over cobblestone—the teamsters coming to bear away the unloaded cargo to the commercial emporiums. The captain proffered the necklace further towards him and Wren, numbly, as if in a dream, watched his own hand reach out and take it.
An astonishing gift. A small fortune.
“I had best get busy,” said the captain, rising to his feet. “The evening waxes, and these men already have a late start at squandering their coin. Do you mind?” he asked, indicating the tin flask resting on the bench.
Wren shook his head. He could feel it, cold and hard, as if it were crafted of ice, nestled in his burning palm.
“Thanks. Burrhus will be happy to have it back, I am certain. Take care, kitharist.” He looked down at Wren a moment longer, then made to walk away.
Wren swallowed hard. “W-why?” was all he managed to stammer.
The captain stopped and cocked his head without actually looking back. A dark silhouette now, against the cerulean sky.
“Let’s just say I plan to die at sea,” he said.

The rest of Wren’s night had passed in a haze of soaring elation. After leaving the docks he’d made his way along Seafront, detouring once to visit the fountain shrine to Falista, Idol of Patience, to wash his hands and face clean in the cool waters there. From there he had continued south, crossing the Grandmarch again as he traversed the breadth of the city.
The night streets of Endelas were quieter than during the day—the riot of sounds confined, emanating from the open doorways and glowing windows of taverns and brothels. Many carts rambled over the paving stones now that the sun had set, and roving squads of red-cloaked imperial soldiers patrolled the streets. Civil servants moved through the city, lighting the hanging street-lamps with tapered poles and filling open, mule-drawn wagons with rubbish and refuse they collected. Here and there along the darkened boulevards, lone candles glimmered in second-story windows behind screens of blue-dyed linen. Now and then throughout the night would skulking figures slip past the bead-curtained thresholds below to find succour in the dissolute companionship of those waiting in the rooms above.
As Wren had walked through Low Tide, his ever and only home, he’d clutched tight the necklace the captain had given him in his hand, half-expecting a band of armed thugs to materialize out of the shadows before him, demanding everything of value on his person. It mattered not, he had told himself, bravely: he was ready to kill to safeguard his precious kithara, would risk death to ensure his golden gift reached safely where he meant to take it—not to a hock-shop, or some nocturnal vendor with whom he could haggle over its considerable worth.
He didn’t mean to sell it, after all.
And so he had found his way to the Seashell, where he’d made arrangements—as he did on most nights—to play there, for the price of a free, hot meal and the late-night company of whichever girl he most preferred.
He’d played long into the night, singing aloud and watching in silence as the men he played for were intermittently enticed away from their wine-cups and his music by the brothel’s alluring inhabitants. And when the hour had grown late and the couches and plush divans of the common room were either empty or host to some carnal act or another, she came to him. Took her place, as was usual, near to the stage, where she waited for him to finish. Which was never long.
In her candlelit chamber on the second floor, he’d sat on the bed, heart racing with excitement and nervous anticipation—of the gift he meant to give her, of her. She had seated herself at the dressing table against the wall, adorned with a large, bronze-rimmed mirror, and set about removing her make-up. She’d offered to keep it on, of course, at first, but he’d insisted he didn’t mind. She didn’t need make-up, he’d told her many times, to be beautiful.
When she was finished at the table she stood, taking a bronze bowl in hand and placing it atop a smoking brazier. The ash-coloured dust inside hissed quietly and began to dissolve and she inhaled the vapour through a cotton sieve. Wren had watched as she set aside the bowl of suima and crossed in front of him to her wardrobe, where she slipped out of the silk gown she’d been wearing and put it away.
He’d felt his soul shudder then, as it often did in her presence, and felt the first stirrings of arousal within him. She’d stood there a moment watching him, allowing his eyes to stray over her, to drink her in and become intoxicated. She had appeared to him then, for all the world, like the flawless sculpture of something…otherworldly, something divine. Perfect skin, alabaster smooth, shimmering in the soft candlelight.
He’d fought for self-control, some restraint to his passion and scarcely managed it. They had made love: slowly at first, with the sensual coyness that only the young can manage; considerate, selfless, chaste as could possibly be under the roof of a such a place, until the needs of each had become too great a burden and urgency overcame them. Rumpled sheets grew damp, were clutched tight in grasping hands. Skin grew warm and flushed with exertion, in places marred by a scratching nail or the bruise of biting teeth.
He had thrust into her then, breathing hard, holding her against him with the fierceness of someone certain in love, blazing and true. She had moaned and gasped, whispering sultry encouragement into his ear, clutching him to her with the wild desperation of someone for whom love—or the act of it, at least—had become a ritual of endured shame.
Afterwards, Wren had meant to present her with the necklace, but she had asked him to play for her and refusing her was not something he was even remotely capable of doing. And so he had taken up his kithara in the seat by the window, where the cooling night breeze wafted through the wooden shutters, and began, softly, to sing.
She was asleep now. Wren allowed the music to fade, until only the slow rhythm of her breathing could be heard in the room. He rose as quietly as he could and went to where his clothes lay strewn on the floor. When he was dressed, he slung his instrument over his shoulder, then moved to the edge of the bed. He stood there a time, struck with awe, before leaning over to draw the blankets up and over her sleeping form. He brushed her hair, like golden silk, gently away from her face, then carefully opened her hand and placed the delicate golden chain within it. An astonishing gift.
“Goodnight Thyria,” he whispered.
And then he rose, turned away from the bed and the woman in it, and one by one, as he glanced at them, willed the flickering candles around the room to go out.
Which they did—compelled by a power (yet another gift, of sorts) that had made itself manifest in this very room on a night some time ago, when a young, fatherless musician had come seeking solace and a reprieve from grief.
He’d found love, as it turned out, and was fireborn because of it. Such things happened in the world.
Wren left the room and within moments had passed out onto the street, nodding curtly to the Seashell’s night sentries as he went out. The stars above were bright as diamonds in the black sky. Tugging up the collar of his coat against the knifing wind, he set off briskly towards the hovel he called home. He was roughly halfway there when a man’s frail voice called out from the shadows.
“Mercy, kind lord,” it pleaded, “Spare a tenth-piece, for an old soldier.”
Wren didn’t recognize the voice. A few wary steps in the darkness brought him within sight of the speaker, however, and his breath caught.
No arms. The dishevelled soldier’s kit he wore was torn and stained almost black, but Wren could barely make out the insignia of rank sewn onto the shoulder of the old man’s empty sleeve. He’d been a captain once, it seemed.
Wren rummaged into his pocket. The old man thanked him vastly at the sound of a coin striking the stone before him. His praise followed the musician on the wind, as he continued towards home.
A mex, under certain, exceedingly rare circumstances, Wren decided, was not too much to waste on a beggar. view post

Nicholas Eames Chapter Five posted 15 December 2004 in Member Written WorksNicholas Eames Chapter Five by Gable, Candidate

Hey! Glad you could read it.

Thanks for the input. Yeah, I realize that first sentence in a bit lengthy. I AM a fan of those sometimes, at the beginnings of chapters, but I see what you mean. Some of the exposition regarding Demune's father could be moved to later in the chapter.

The reason it may sound like a first chapter is because it is the first to deviate from the main centre of events, and the first time we are introduced to any of these characters, save Teirkon.

The 'wordiness' is a good point. Very good. And I'll be sure to mull through, simplifying words when I can and keeping over-explanation to a minimum.

Any other opinions would be fantastic. And as for the next chapter, it came a bit easier than this, and hopefully will flow beter for you. It, also, is a chapter that introduces a character for the first time.

Anyway, thanks again. view post

First Word that Comes to Mind posted 15 December 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Gable, Candidate

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Nicholas Eames Chapter Five posted 15 December 2004 in Member Written WorksNicholas Eames Chapter Five by Gable, Candidate It's on then. I'd better start fleshing out some Emperor chapters! Again, thanks for the read. I hope you'll enjoy chapter 6 as well. Oh, and I checked out that online writers workshop--very cool. I'll be joining after christmas. After some 'friends' and family have a go at it, I'll workshop every chapter before I start sending it off. My plan is, of course, to write the full book before I seriously try and sell it, but hey--it can't hurt to have it out there. Especially if I can get it to a very polished point.
And yeah, when you post your stuff--I'm there for ya.

Oh yeah, I was talking with my bro--who's reading the same 2 chapters, and I think I'll take the part about her being 'Karmedron's wife' out of the whole first line. I mean.....I think we understand that later on, no? haha There. Thanks to this nifty edit function, I changed it. Sound better at all? view post

This time I got a question... posted 15 December 2004 in Author Q &amp; AThis time I got a question... by Gable, Candidate

Whaddaya MEAN what's it gonna take to drum up attention in the US?!

Give Cnaiur a gun. Semi-automatic, I'd suggest, but hey--I'm not even published. Oh, and maybe, while the Holy War lays seige to the next bastion of the Fanim infidels..have them play a little football scrimmage before the fortress walls. Have the Emperor and Maithanet next confrontation take place in a McDonalds. Simple things, Scott. Simple things.

Seriously, Good luck.
Your books rock--it'll happen.
Last resort--fake your own death.
Hell, I never gave Nirvana a second-glance before that blond fella died. (kidding) view post

Ayn Rand posted 16 December 2004 in Philosophy DiscussionAyn Rand by Gable, Candidate

Took the words right out of my mouth.
My other, really, really smart mouth.
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Best Kick-in-the-Nuts' EVER!!! posted 18 December 2004 in Literature DiscussionBest Kick-in-the-Nuts' EVER!!! by Gable, Candidate

Okay, what I mean by that is...what are your favorite parts in any books when something so unbelievably shocking happened it made you scream 'OH GREAT JESUS!!!"--or some similar blasphemy. And, of course, to get things are mine:

1) Game of Thrones - Now..though I risk spoiling this for someone, if you haven't read all the GoT books deserve this, you freak, haha. Anyway.The part where Rob gets killed. I screamed and screamed. I couldn't believe it was happening. And also, later in the book, where the Red Viper fights the Mountain that rides, and has him beat...then gets brutally, brutally killed. Fantastic! Horrifying, but fantastic!

2) Wheel of Time - You may say you hate Wheel of Time, but you know in your heart of hearts that is not true. When Rand al'Thor faces the Dark Lord..if Matt Cauthon or Perrin ever died...don't fool yourself, my's okay to love those boys. ANYHOW. Book 6, I think, when the Aes Sedai came into Rands throne room with slaves carrying a chest of 'gold', then the slaves turned out to be Aes Sedai and they bound him and put him in the chest and walked past all his friends and his entire army with him inside, claiming that he'd 'gated' away. I was in a dentists waiting room and screamed 'Holy fucking shit!'

3) This one...this one IS too special to spoil. Perhaps the greatest, most bittersweet, tragic thing I've ever read or even known. The ending of Tigana, by Guy Gavriel Kay. Won't tell you if you haven't read it, but I will say this: as I read, I was like...Hmm...mmmm...okay..uh-hu......................what? what does that mean? who the? what could...(eyes boggle in realization)...NOOOOOOOOOOOOO---oh sweet god no...NOOOOO!!!!!!!! Actually--I was so distraught I made Luke Skywalker look calm and composed upon learning that Darth was his father. Tears of sadness and joy followed, my friends.

Anyway, just thought I'd share. And remember...don't hate too too much on Wheel of Time. Just be glad you're young, and will hopefully still be alive when it ends. More than many can hope for.

Let's hear yours. view post

First Word that Comes to Mind posted 19 December 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Gable, Candidate

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Connolly posted 25 December 2004 in Member Written WorksConnolly by Gable, Candidate

Hey there,
Sorry it took me so long to reply, but I've been home in Ontario visiting BOTH sets of parents so things have been hectic. And worse...they live deep in the wilderland between Kingston and Toronto high-speed internet. A nightmare, truly.

ANYHOW! I really liked your work--thought it was great. Fantastic prose, nice job getting us inside characters' heads--especially Porthios.

If I have any criticism at all, it's only that the scenes seemed unduly short sometimes. It moved from character to character so fast it was near the end of a book, when things are frantic and pace quickens and the actions jump beween characters more often. I think many things you presented could have been somehow made into longer, deeper scenes. See what I'm saying at all? It just went back and forth a lot with little fleshing out of each scene. Not really a terrible thing, but just unlike most stuff I've read, you know?

You were great at giving past information, names, etc, without sounding like you were explaining it too thoroughly. Hell, I didn't realize what the hell a 'Warren' really was until almost the end of Gardens of the Moon, haha. I like that--not holding the reader by the hand, you know?

Anyhow, I'd love to read more. It was very interesting, so when you get a chance--and I'm back in Van, I'll read more for sure.

Good news is, I finished my 'Prologue and six chapters'for christmas. Had to ignore the girlfriend until about 1am the night before I left, but hey, Sacrifice is a virtue. And in January I'll be joining the OWW, workshopping each chapter before sending them off.

Okay, I'm out. Have a good Christmas. view post


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