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The sovereign rights of a nation. posted 16 July 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionThe sovereign rights of a nation. by xatantius, Candidate

National sovereignty is the reason why international law is so ineffective, as the UN believes every nation has the right to govern itself and make its own laws, even if they violate the Declaration of Human Rights. This seems to be a pretty stupid concept to me on moral grounds, but it does have pragmatic uses as well. If the UN invaded every country violating human rights we'd have World War 3 on our hands. The United States has violated national sovereignty on numerous occasions (Korea, Vietnam Iraq) , often under the pretext of restoring individual human rights to oppressed minorities. Of course, whether or not that was the actual reason for going to war becomes a moot point, but it provides the US with a good excuse to invade other countries.
So national sovereignty seems, to me, to be somewhat outdated, as it neither reflects the values of most societies and can be overrun anyway by anyone powerful enough. It's mainly in place to stop small third world countries destroying each other, with absolutely no effect. view post


Maithanet posted 16 July 2007 in The Judging EyeMaithanet by xatantius, Candidate

What I don't understand is why Moenghus told Maithanet to go and incite Holy War in the first place. Shouldn't he have manipulated the Inrithi and the Fanim into becoming one great unified religion/state WITHOUT killing about 80% of the world's non-Sranc fighting forces? How are they supposed to defend themselves with all their best warriors-including the Scarlet Spires and the Cishaurim-dead? It could be that Moenghus is paving the way for the Consult to start the Second Apocalypse to better let the Dunyain do their thing, and using Maithanet as his instrument. Seems unlikely to me though <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> view post


Was Cnauir gay? posted 17 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWas Cnauir gay? by xatantius, Candidate

It doesn't really matter whether he is or not does it? Sexuality seems to be somewhat interchangeable for the men of the Three Seas-Achamian, Moenghus, Inrau, Proyas, Eleazaras, Xerius, even Conphas showed bisexual tendencies, as well as all of High Ainon and the Nansurium (according to the Scylvendi anyway). The only reason it becomes an issue with Cnaiur is because it's taboo to the Scylvendi and he refuses to acknowledge it. I don't even see why it's an issue-bisexuality is pretty damn tame compared to some of the OTHER sexual preferences in PoN (I'm looking at YOU xerius). Cnaiur's pretty normal wen you compare him to the Inchoroi. they're just...ew <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> view post


Esmet's betrayl, Bakker's massogeny, and a criticism posted 17 July 2007 in The Warrior ProphetEsmet's betrayl, Bakker's massogeny, and a criticism by xatantius, Candidate

I think the post does raise a few interesting points, but then again you could insinuate that Bakker is pushing Communism or Nazism or Zoroastrianism if you read into it far enough. And as for Bakker being secretly gay...his first book is dedicated to a woman name Sharron-his wife (although then again Cnaiur was married about 30 times and look at him).
I think this would be a GREAT series for an advanced English class or even university. Try and find the most ridiculous subtext, like Buddhist or Ku Klux Klan <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->
By the way, I'm aware this thread is over 2 years old, but what the hey. Like the last guy said, I'm a new member so every thread is new to me <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


What if Kellhus was one of us? posted 17 July 2007 in General DiscusssionWhat if Kellhus was one of us? by xatantius, Candidate

'Just a slob like one of us...&quot;

Lol anyway...Hypothetical question-Would Kellhus have had the same success in today's world as he did in the Three Seas? Would he wield the same power or would he have been exposed as a fraud early on and dismissed as just another kook? I'm not sure personally, its a tough question. Somewhere in between the two i think. view post


What if Kellhus was one of us? posted 17 July 2007 in General DiscusssionWhat if Kellhus was one of us? by xatantius, Candidate

That's true. And it also very scary. view post


Is Kelhus a criticism of Jesus/religion? posted 20 July 2007 in Author Q &amp; AIs Kelhus a criticism of Jesus/religion? by xatantius, Candidate

I think you've got a good point saying that Kellhus is a representation of Jesus. I think Bakker has quite deliberately mirrored elemnts of the real world in PoN. For example, the Holy War between Inrithism and Fanimry is a clear parallel of the Crusades between Christians and Muslims, and like you said the Circumfix is pretty obviously another version of a crucifix.
I think Bakker has deliberately made these comparisons pretty blatant to better get his message across-to show how easy it is for people to be fooled into believing what others tell them, and to showthe ignorance of the masses when it comes to religion.
So I don't think PoN is anti-Christian, per se. Anti-religion, perhaps. It's one of those questions that can have lots of answers. view post


Harry Potter (don't hurt me) posted 22 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionHarry Potter (don't hurt me) by xatantius, Candidate

Yes, I'm mentioning Harry Potter. I know it might get me in trouble with people who insist its for kids or whatever, but i'm bringing it up anyway. And no, I won't give away any plot details or the ending, coz that is mean, and I order anyone who reads this thread to do the same.
The point of this thread is pretty much to review the last book, out of 10 or whatever way you want to do it. If you want to rate it, PLEASE don't give away any of the plot details for the benefit of other people who haven't read the book yet.
Personally, I give it a 9 for a great ending and for tying up a lot of the loose ends (and for lots of other stuff, but you're gonna hafta read the book for that). view post


The Aspect-Emperor posted 22 July 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]The Aspect-Emperor by xatantius, Candidate

I have several predictions for The Aspect-Emperor series, mostly about Achamian coz he's my favourite lol.
I think he'll go to Atrithau to find out more about the Dunyain, and warn people there to be wary aobut the new Aspect-Emperor. They don't believe Inrithism up there anyway and sorcery can't be performed there, so Achamian would be safer there than in the Three Seas. He'd jsut be stupid to try and go to Ishual-even if he got past all the Sranc the Dunyain would just kill him anyway.
I also think he might get some of the witches and sorceorus outcasts of the Three Seas together for his own protection-all the Schools are gonna be after him now, after all (and all of them armed with the Gnosis, if the Mandate are ordered by Kellhus not to be stingy with it). That's another reason for him to go to Atrithau.
I reckon Kellhus will have had the whole Three Seas on some sort of breeding program to make up for everyone dying in the Holy War, so he has lots of soldiers for his Great Ordeal. I also reckon Esmenet will be absolutely miserable by this stage. She'll have done a Cnaiur and figured out stuff about the Dunyain that she wasn't supposed to know, and she'll still be pining for Achamian. And at the end of it all they'll be reunited and die in each others arms <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


What if Kellhus was one of us? posted 29 July 2007 in General DiscusssionWhat if Kellhus was one of us? by xatantius, Candidate

What have you people done to my topic?? Stop talking about paris hilton you fools! view post


Holy War/Crusades similarities posted 02 August 2007 in General DiscusssionHoly War/Crusades similarities by xatantius, Candidate

I always knew Bakker took existing events for the PoN storyline, but I was surprised to what extent. I researched the Crusades recently and found very glaring similarities to the Holy War, aside form the obvious conflict between religions and nations. e.g.
The Byzantine Emperor at the time of the Crusades, Alexius I, made the leaders of the Crusades sign a treaty giving all lands conquered to the Byzantine Empire in exchange for provisions-sound familiar?
The People's Crusade was a 100,000-strong 'army' of peasants, women and old men led by a glory-seeking monk named Peter the Hermit, most of whom were massacred by the Turks and Seljuks-sound familiar?
During the Siege of Antioch in 1097, Bohemund of Taranto bribed a city guard for entrance to one of the city's towers and gained control of the city-sound familiar?
Personally, i think the following seems correct;
Nansur-Byzantine Empire
Galeoth-France
Ce Tydonn-Holy Roman Empire
High Ainon-Italy
Conriya-Britain
Thunyerus-Nordic nations
Kian/Shigek/Gedea/Enathpaneah-Turks/Seljuks/Saracens/Persians

This isn't a criticism of his work, it just seems odd no-one's noticed this before. view post


Holy War/Crusades similarities posted 02 August 2007 in General DiscusssionHoly War/Crusades similarities by xatantius, Candidate

I admit, Conriya as England is a stretch, but the Ainoni have many characteristics similar to old Italy-the power and population of their nations, the colour of their skin, the culture of art and high society. Of course, there are probably just as many points to the contrary, so maybe you're right. view post


Your First Time posted 21 August 2007 in Off-Topic DiscussionYour First Time by xatantius, Candidate

I'm a pretty wide reader, but the best book I have ever read EVER is 'The Power of One' by Bryce Courtenay. It's not fantasy, it's set in 1940s South Africa and is an amazing and deeply moving book. The ending had me literally yelling 'Wow!' for ten minutes. view post


Are depressed people more realistic? posted 01 October 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionAre depressed people more realistic? by xatantius, Candidate

I heard of this theory not too long ago, and it intrigued me. The argument is that people who suffer depression have a more accurate view of life and the world, due to not being caught up in idealistic or overly optimistic notions, and don't see the world through rose-coloured glasses. I'm ont sure what the answer is, but I'd love some people's opinions on this. Comments please! Rant away. view post


Now listening to... posted 18 October 2007 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow listening to... by xatantius, Candidate

Bloc Party, Arctic Monkeys, Editors...i like my British musics. We need more British musicsin Australia, everyone sings in and about pubs over here. view post


Who would you cast in a Prince of Nothing movie? posted 21 December 2007 in General DiscusssionWho would you cast in a Prince of Nothing movie? by xatantius, Candidate

for moenghus...
Geoffery rush. no question. he's just the right age and he's the best actor around. god only knows who would have the acting ability to play kellhus without butchering the role. clive owen would be a great conphas as well i reckon, despite his king arthur performance-he's good-looking with on-screen arrogance to match lol.
cnaiur...? again, who could really do it that well? he makes king leonidas look like a drag queen. view post


Cnaiur's sexuality-why is the topic so damn popular?? posted 21 December 2007 in General DiscusssionCnaiur's sexuality-why is the topic so damn popular?? by xatantius, Candidate

Most people on this forum will know the thread 'Topic:is Cnaiur gay?'. The thread currently stands at 9 pages long, which interests me immensely as to WHY we've spent so much time discussing a fictional character's sexual preference (me included), considering the following points:
1. He's had sex with men, women, alien-made soulless constructs...and the ground. As in, the stuff you're standing on. Mother Nature got fucked over-LITERALLY-by this guy.
2. Does it matter? While it does add to the story, it's not integral to it and it's a relatively minor part of the series.
3. Of all the men in PoN, why Cnaiur? Find me 3 male characters in the books who HAVEN'T exhibited homoerotic tendencies at some point-it's either explicitly stated, or insinuated in the same fashion that Cnaiur's sexuality is.
4. Despite the traumatising facts in Point 1, Cnaiur's sexual tendencies are fucking TAME compared to the kinky, sick, and just plain weird stuff some of the others get up to-look at Xerius, for instance. What a way to find out your mum has a big surprise for you, honestly. The Sranc will go for anything that bleeds and is rapable in a sickeningly violent way. And the INCHIROI. They screw just about anything, and somehow make the poor things LIKE it.
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ANYWAY!
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anyway.
Your thoughts? I've got my own opinions as to why, but I'll let some comments build up before I throw in my two cents. Post away. Please no homophobia, heterophobia, flaming, whatever, you know. Srancophobia I will tolerate. Srancosexual-free zone! <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> view post


Cnaiur's sexuality-why is the topic so damn popular?? posted 21 December 2007 in General DiscusssionCnaiur's sexuality-why is the topic so damn popular?? by xatantius, Candidate

I just realised...the Cnaiur gay thread, thanks to me, now has a spinoff.
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w00t. <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> view post


What if Kellhus was one of us? posted 17 February 2008 in General DiscusssionWhat if Kellhus was one of us? by xatantius, Candidate

I think Kellhus wouldn'y install himself as President of the United States or Pope or whatever-not initially at least-because it would be too divisive. He'd probably set himself up as a kind of powerful philanthropist or something-maybe like Tony Robbins lol-and just quietly help bunches of people with spiritual problems while denying all the while he was anything special, and let his new devotees spread the word for him.
He'd focus on helping notable cynics and sceptics to lend credence to his 'cause' or whatever, and gradually build up a following wherever he went. He'd travel a lot, so as not to become defined by one race or society, and soon a big worldwide cult thingy would be brewing.
He'd start influencing prominent media stations and politicians, getting them to depend on him in crisis situations, by which time he'd run for President of the UN or something. He'd then call on all his supporters to get packin', and we'd have a big ol' worldwide coup goin' down <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: -->
...Or not... view post


Do you believe a God exists? posted 17 February 2008 in Philosophy DiscussionDo you believe a God exists? by xatantius, Candidate

I don't know.
Absolutely no idea as to whether there is a God, what it is, where it is, what it's intentions are and whether it gives a damn about us. There could be, there's no explanation as to why there's not, but then again there's no explanation as to why there is either. I think it's one of those things that we'll never figure out, and even if we do, the answer won't be pretty, and people won't want to know.
Like, imagine if we found God a few billion light years away, and we go nuts and ask him if he's heard our prayers and stuff, and go 'WHATS THE MEANING OF LIFE, GOD? TELL US!!!'
What if he just shrugs his shoulders and says, 'Honestly, I just created you guys for shits and giggles, and then I got bored and made a giant lounge chair in which to travel the universe'. Bit of a let-down really.

I think it's great if religion makes you happy and gives you hope and stuff, that's fine. But it's when people start talking themselves up because of it and insisting that they're right where problems start, and so many people do that. Just accept that it's YOUR belief, and no-one elses. There are 6.3 billion unique religious views in the world, because we all have different ideas and viewpoints. view post


The Reaction of a New Religion posted 17 February 2008 in Philosophy DiscussionThe Reaction of a New Religion by xatantius, Candidate

If a new religion started tomorrow, and everyone who criticised it spontaneously combusted, I would join it and give it ALL my money, because at the end of the day, you can debate and argue all you want, but you hafta worship the God who can set you on fire. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 28 February 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by xatantius, Candidate

Kellhus vs. the 300 Spartans <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

I think Kellhus hands down. All he'd have to do is reveal their deep-seated sexual insecurities and closeted homosexuality and they'd be too busy crying to own, bwahaha

Kellhus vs. Kratos from God of War

Tricky one...there must be a reason for Kratos' anger, so maybe that could work. Kratos would be too busy destroying things to listen though. view post


Fanimry Survives? posted 15 March 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtFanimry Survives? by xatantius, Candidate

i don't think Fanimry will really survive. Kellhus will either destroy it or convert the remaining Fanim to his religious personality cult using the same metohds he used with the Inrithi. Kellhus needs a truly united Three Seas if he has any hope of destoyring Golgotterath. If Fanimry does survive, it will be in small bands of Orthodox, like the Inrithi, who see Kellhus as a walking demon. I think we'll see more of Zeum and Kian in the new series, at least I hope so. view post


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