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Tar.Aldarion Candidate | joined 02 July 2007 | 29 posts


Was Cnauir gay? posted 02 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWas Cnauir gay? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

He is either bi-sexual or straight, I hazard bisexual due to his thoughts. view post


Are there female skin spies? posted 02 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAre there female skin spies? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

I would imagine that there are no 'female' skin-spies. The only ones we have seen so far, queen/serwe have had penisies. view post


Kellhus and the Gnosis posted 02 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKellhus and the Gnosis by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

We do not know that Kellhus was not just faking that he could not overcome the Cishaurim to kill they easily by surprise. Also what may have looked like Kellhus just powering his wards was him using an utteral and two inutterals to transpose himself, so he may have just chosen that way to kill them.
He does not need Achamian to teach him the Gnosis any longer, as he is more powerful and is teaching himself. view post


Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 02 July 2007 in Author Q & AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

This definitely does not seem to be Serwe's heart that he pulled out, I am confused by this, it all points to him pulling out his own heart, yet he does not seem to have the power of illusion. view post


Kellhus the God posted 02 July 2007 in The Warrior ProphetKellhus the God by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

You have to remember that the girls only like the consult in bed because of their insidious sorceries. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post


Are there female skin spies? posted 02 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAre there female skin spies? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

How do we know that? You just mean the height and build that it mentions?
They never seem to have any difficulty with faces. view post


Kellhus the God posted 03 July 2007 in The Warrior ProphetKellhus the God by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

So do I, but that doesn't mean I am great in the sack! <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post


Are there female skin spies? posted 03 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAre there female skin spies? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

It didn't really, as, Geshrunni was still easily recognised by the Scarlet Spires without his face and they never seem to take faces after that.
We have seen the skin spies copy a lot of faces where it does not look like much study was put in, they are probably good at what they do and just need to see the persons face. Kellhus mentions imperceptable changes in height and build but never that the face was any different. view post


Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 03 July 2007 in Author Q &amp; AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Why is it clear? It is clearly said later that the Grandmaster of the Scarlet spires saw Kellhus pull out his own heart. He did not mention Serwe.
It also says he reached into 'his' chest doesn't it? Unless he is calling her his heart. However this is still not reason for The Grandmaster to definitely bthink that Kellhus is a prophet, which he does after seeing him pull out 'his own fucking heart'. view post


His Dark Materials series posted 03 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionHis Dark Materials series by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

One of my favourite(That comes up as a wrong spelling here!) series, excellently written and quite compelling. view post


great reads in fantasy? posted 03 July 2007 in Literature Discussiongreat reads in fantasy? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Read the best First, Tolkien, Martin and Pullman. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Favorite books/series posted 03 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionFavorite books/series by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

LOTR, The Silmarillion, The lost Tales, The Unfinished Tales, His Dark Materials, A Song of Ice and Fire. view post


Nothing against female Fantasy authors but... posted 03 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionNothing against female Fantasy authors but... by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Robin Hobb is indeed a woman. Those backward d's are called beeees. :p
Her and Trudi Canavan are the only female authors that really spring to mind for me. view post


Evolution vs Creation posted 03 July 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionEvolution vs Creation by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Um, I believe in Evolution and it's a pity to see so may people in the thrall of Creationism and religion. view post


Is the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? posted 03 July 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionIs the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

I don't believe the idea of God is inherent in our minds. It is more, a general weakness/flaw that is prevalent in our species, we need something to hope for etc, for the most part.
I am an Alatrist since I gave up Christianity at oh, about 8 years old. So I was never really one.
An alatrist is an agnostic that would not worship a god even if a god could was proved to exist.
My agnostic beliefs also edge towards atheism, and I find religion to be for weak people(No offence.). Weak in a way that they can not be blamed for, some people need something to believe in, to repress fear.
I also find the term god to be a paradox, and as such, a god could not exist to me. It is not possible for something to be a god rather than just a powerful alien, at the most.
Logic is just ignorance by numbers, but it is far superior to any other ignorance.

There are many forms of intelligence, that is to say, different types. From the type that allows me to get the root of 27.4 in my head, to the ability to pick up subtle nuances around you, to the ability to be in a system of evolutionary psychology and brainwashing, and step outside it etc etc.
Being intelligent is also just perspective.
I am of the opinion that since people here were brought up catholic they believe in that god, if you were brought up in Islam, that god, etc etc, ranging to Zeus...(minor exceptions due to circumstances in individuals lives occur)
Then Christians, or whoever, will go and say they have a personal relationship with their god, and that is all the evidence they need that he is real(How could he not be if they feel it in their hearts I hear them cry), a god that says that he is the only god to exist... whilst some people of other faiths have the exact same belief that they have a personal relationship with their god and therefore no other god could exist.
Ah my ramblings...

When I say I wouldn't worship a god, I mean I would not worship anything, nothing specific, as with my fellow Alatrists I'm sure. Also, 'god' is a paradox for me. As I said above, It is not possible for something to be a god rather than just a powerful alien, at the most.
This thing that might have created the universe etc, why would that be a &quot;god&quot; to you as opposed to simply an alien, even if that alien exists outside of your universe?
What makes something a god for you and something not a god? How powerful would it have to be?
Since it would have to have infinite power I imagine, it can not exist. I think 'god' is not tenable, for me.
How and ever, what may be a god to you, is not a god to me, so a 'god' could exist to you.
I contend that the distinctions between atheism and agnosticism have everything to do with the definition of 'god' in part, rather than the words themselves. As what constitutes a 'god' is very subjective - so must your pigeonhole be.

I think there is a contradiction in the way that the more advanced a 'god' is, the more it is worthy of an old grovel, yet the more advanced it is, surely the less it will think that it deserves one... worship being an inane human idea.
The Abrahamic god/s may want worship indeed, most people view that as a picture of a 'god' around these parts, but that god is rather undeserving.
If something was a supreme being as you put it, would it have a desire to be worshiped, or would it not need it and not yearn for it?
Something that created us and wants worship is not worthy of it and something that created us that does not need worship, does not need it. (:

An alien race with vaster intelligence aren't gods, any more than we are gods compared to dogs or bacteria. That isn't what the term &quot;god&quot; means. We obey the same rule of nature and physics as anything else. A god wouldn't, by definition. Why would it be subject to ego, or even thought?
It's like the Christian god naming pride as a mortal sin but him being guilty of it himself. It is a paradox.

There are so many paradoxes to a god existing, it's just impossible under most peoples definition of a god, for said god to exist.
Omniscience for instance. Is it impossible for him to know something which he does not know? (IE, knowledge of an omission is itself a knowable fact, so by implication, there must be at least one omission of which he's aware. Is it possible to reconcile this by saying that the fact of which he's unaware is the fact of the existence of this same omission?

There is an infinite class of objects with no proof against their existence, which most of us would say we know doesn't exist. yet a lot of theists find beliefs like mine untenable. They want proof 'their' god does not exist.
Theists are atheistic towards unicorns, dragons, sauron, teacups orbiting the milkyway breathing fire... without any proof, yet not against a 'god'?
Lets take Let's take vampires for a moment.
I don't believe vampires exist.
Can I prove it - in a technical 'philosophical sense' - No. So what do I mean when I say &quot;I don't believe that vampires exist&quot; ?
To me it means I'm going to behave and act as if the statement is true.
So I'm taking no precautions against vampires in my daily life. No garlic or holy water above my head. I don't spend time trying to find them, I don't look for the latest research.
If that position is classified by some as narrow-minded then so be it, I can live with that, but the position seems perfectly sensible to me.
But because I cannot absolutely disprove their existence, I'm supposed to be classified as agnostic on the existence vampires.
Well fine, but then we I need a new term for those who act is their lives as if vampires may exist. Those who might consider garlic above their bed &quot;just in case&quot;, who read non-fiction books about vampires, and generally live their lives as I would describe 'Unsure whether vampires exist'.

There are a lot of things we are technically agnostic on, but functionally atheist. A god is just another, just as you would not believe in any Earthly religion without evidence for or against.
There is a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities, and the ridiculous things mentioned above. Why entertain a belief in one, and not another? If someone uses the 'can't disprove' argument (for god) then it seems reasonable to point out the same argument can be applied in defence of any silly belief.
Why abandon common sense for scientific imperialism?
Solipsism is pointless. If you had been brought up in a world of atheists you would find the idea of a god as ridiculous as a train falling on your head right now, yet both have very little evidence against them.
However people seem to define god as something which is just powerful, so I will discuss that below. If that is so, a god could certainly exist to you, but it would just be a powerful being to other people.

Only if we choose to bow down and worship them are we setting them up as Gods - a fallacy exactly equivalent to a remote tribe worshipping a Western explorer because of the latter's technology.


I'm sure I had a topic in there at some point? view post


Nothing against female Fantasy authors but... posted 04 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionNothing against female Fantasy authors but... by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

And more importantly...a lot more tights. view post


Are there female skin spies? posted 04 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAre there female skin spies? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Quote: &quot;anor277&quot;:2mbaq153

And they recognized him by other means. Nevertheless, mutilation would have always been a good idea if a skin spy wanted to succeed in its imposture. Questions would be asked if the original's remains were recognized as I pointed out.[/quote:2mbaq153]
Well if you take somebodies face, I imagine he has to be identified by other means. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
Questions would indeed be raised, and he threw the body in the river. We don't know why he took his face though, it could have been to get off. :p
He could have taken the clothes as well, then the body would not have been brought to the attention of the Scarlet spires. His face was taken, which would be very suspicious, the body would be investigated unlike a normal dead body, and this would hinder this spy. I would think they found it was Geshrunni because the spy stopped pretending to be him and he 'disappeared' s they investigated.

Kellhus did just that for Skaeos(?), the Nansur vizier; of course Kellhus had never met Skaeos de jure before. Kellhus was able to detect the lack of facial musculature. The skin spies evidently do a very good job but they are not impenetrable to even a blind Dunyain.

I was referring to Sarcellus, when he was replaced by Gaorta, as the original skin spy was slain in battle. He was imperceptably different in height etc, but not in face. view post


Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 04 July 2007 in Author Q &amp; AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Quote: &quot;anor277&quot;:3q9jp05x

Eleazaras also said something to the effect of &quot;that had to be a trick&quot;, which it surely was.[/quote:3q9jp05x]
He said that because he could not believe what he had seen, any of us would do the same. It implied that Kellhus was more than a mere human to the Grandmaster, and that meant that he could be a prophet. This would mean he was truly damned and had lived his life wrongly. He said that it had to be a trick out of fear for his sole and because it went against all of his beliefs about a god and Inrithism etc.
Serwe's remains were mutilated by the Tusk faithful, which included Sarcellus, a dog on heat; I suspect they did a very thorough job. How could Kellhus, a man of sublime but mundane abilities, reach into his own chest and pull out his heart, even with the &quot;glittering abstractions of the Gnosis&quot; (which was not available to Kellhus at the time)?

They slit her thoat and gave her a good beating, I think they got her stomach too? I don't know how he could do that, it doesn't really mention a reason either, I just think it didn't make sense becasue of the way it was described and the later recounting of it..

Maybe Kellhus utilized sleight of hand, which the psychic surgeons of our world do, to make it appear he was holding his own heart, as another trick for the rubes - Eleazaras could not quite believe it. And even if he did have the abillity, why should he do it after he had been almost scourged to death and crucified; would it have done anything for his circulation?

If he could do it, I imagine being scourged and crucified might not have the same affect on him as it would on us. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->
I don't know why he pulled out any heart, weird way to celebrate and be triumphant etc.
It would be some slight of hand to make it look like you had pulled your own heart out of your own body when it was in fact Serwe's!
Especially in front of masses. Maybe he is a prophet, the heart was his and the haloes are real? <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post


Question about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* posted 05 July 2007 in Author Q &amp; AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Hey, I know what the book says! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->
It already said tat on this thread. It gave the quote I gave and the quote you gave.
I was just mentioning that the book contradicts and brandishing any heart makes no sense to me. I did note the author said some mistakes got through. I agree that it had to be Serwe's or Kellhus would be dead, but the other quotes just made no sense. view post


Is the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? posted 05 July 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionIs the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Quote: &quot;avatar_of_existence&quot;:kyise303

You are leaving out the millions of people who do believe that all gods worshipped are one god (an idea that's been growing since the early 1900's), and that would explain how all these people have a personal relationship with 'their' gods. Us and Them is a myth, we are all human beings operating on the same level living on the same ball of water and dirt.[/quote:kyise303]
People may believe that all gods are the one god, so that all gods in each religion are just the same god. This also makes no sense, as all these religions contradict each other and many of them mention that one should not follow any other religion or idol.
That is why that view is not tenable, how can two people both have a personal relationship with this one god where one god says adultery is not a sin and one says it should be punished by stoning to death? There are thousands of such inconsistencies.

I believe that there are mysteries out there that science will never explain, Paradoxes is the word you used.

I used paradox for the term god and it applies, no such thing could exist for me.
What things in particular do you think science can not explain? Big bang, creation, multiple universes?
You have to understand that science can prove nothing, it attempts to model things accurately and disregards solipsism.

I believe it takes more to look at the paradoxes in the world straight in the eye than to throw them out the window as 'superstition' which is what I believe you are doing here.

That sentence makes no sense. I don't know what you think paradox means so I'm rather confused.


You don't worship anything? I say that is impossible. Life itself is worship of existence, your every waking movement is worship. Okay, so worship is not the word you would use, but why not? because Christians use it? then it is true, your beliefs are defined by christianity.

This also makes no sense. Why would I not use a word because other people use it? I use words according to their definition, so I worship nothing. Why would my every living moment be 'worship'? I equate a sentence like that to somebody that says they know their god exists by looking at a child smile and it's beauty.

There are mysteries we will never understand (I know this is true for at least my generation and those in the past). Faith is having the courage to accept that. And there are definitely ups and downs to that acceptance, especially when it prohibits science from breaking through (Galileo comes to mind). Still, life is more fun when you're the one in charge, and so if you hear voices in your head and want to call it God, I say, more power to you.

Faith is having the courage to accept we will never understand everything??
In what sense are you using faith?
I understand that we can not know everything, I know just how ignorant humans are, but that is not faith.


faith /fe&#618;&#952;/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[feyth] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.
—Idiom
9. in faith, in truth; indeed: In faith, he is a fine lad.
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Is the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? posted 09 July 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionIs the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Well that is an interesting post, hehe.
Do you love me like my girlfriend loves me or in what definition? <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post


Is the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? posted 10 July 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionIs the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

I too believe in chemical reactions in my brain. *smiles innocently*&gt; view post


Is the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? posted 11 July 2007 in Philosophy DiscussionIs the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Always remember, we are all but recent leaves on the same old tree of life and if this life has adapted itself to new functions and conditions, it uses the same old basic principles over and over again. There is no real difference between the grass and the man who mows it. view post


Nothing against female Fantasy authors but... posted 11 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionNothing against female Fantasy authors but... by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

That is rather hard to do, what with having read such few female authors. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Was Cnauir gay? posted 11 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWas Cnauir gay? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

None of those three people were gay. view post


Nothing against female Fantasy authors but... posted 12 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionNothing against female Fantasy authors but... by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Yes, but also, there wouldn't be too many like her, and I don't like her anyway. I wonder how many pen authors(that were women pretending to be men) there would be back then. view post


Was Cnauir gay? posted 12 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWas Cnauir gay? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Is Dunyain a sexual orientation now? view post


Was Cnauir gay? posted 19 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWas Cnauir gay? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

I would have done her too. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> view post


Was Cnauir gay? posted 20 July 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWas Cnauir gay? by Tar.Aldarion, Candidate

Anal sex and ignore that it has a penis is the way forward. view post


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