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Can Inchoroi reproduce posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCan Inchoroi reproduce by unJon, Auditor

Hmm...maybe something like Superman 2, where the Inchoroi that left were convicts or some crazy sub-sect of the total Inchoroi population. And they fled or were expelled from the old world...

Interesting. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by unJon, Auditor

I agree. And its great to finally have the precise wording of the most quoted Scott blurb on this board.

"only the rare animal ever 'awakens' enough to develop a soul in Earwa" view post


The Mandate Skin-Spy posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Mandate Skin-Spy by unJon, Auditor

Maithenet has a technique that anyone can perform to test for a skin-spy. I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years it is common practice to greet someone by pinching their face in that particular location as opposed to shaking hands or grabbing forearms. view post


A soulful question [WARNING: TTT Spoilers Inside] posted 24 February 2006 in Author Q & AA soulful question [WARNING: TTT Spoilers Inside] by unJon, Auditor

Quick problem: inchoroi can work sorcery. Otherwise i like your analogy to gnosticism. Note that the magic is called Gnosis. view post


Kant and the Dunyain posted 24 February 2006 in Author Q & AKant and the Dunyain by unJon, Auditor

I would like to broaden the question to all philosophers that had an influence on Scott in the writing of this series.

I've noticed a bit of a similarity between creatures sometimes awakening to a soul in Earwa to Foucault's formulation of a soul as the manifestation of countless battles within and around the body in Discipline and Punish. view post


The most important question about the Skin-Spy with a soul posted 24 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe most important question about the Skin-Spy with a soul by unJon, Auditor

Good points Dawn,

It also introduced to the reader that anyone can tell who a skin-spy is. By pinching their face in a certain spot.

Thematically, it continued the development of Bakker's ideas about people outgrowing their roots, by becoming more. Kellhus outgrows the Dunyain. Akka outgrows the mandate. Even a skin-spy can outgrow the limits of its creation and gain a soul. view post


A poll on souls posted 24 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtA poll on souls by unJon, Auditor

I went option 2 also. It seems like the most reasonable expectation given Bakker's quote about the rare creature awakening and gaining a soul. view post


THE TORONTO STAR posted 28 February 2006 in Interviews and ReviewsTHE TORONTO STAR by unJon, Auditor

Congrats Scott, very well deserved <!-- s:!: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_exclaim.gif" alt=":!:" title="Exclamation" /><!-- s:!: -->

I noticed that he said AE was going to be 40 years after PON though, instead of 20. view post


Schools of the 3 seas posted 03 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSchools of the 3 seas by unJon, Auditor

Little Moenghus isn't Kellhus's son, though. I think that he'll definitely be in AE, but I don't think he'll be one of the few. Possibly he could be. view post


The Meeting between Kellhus &amp; Moenghus? posted 03 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Meeting between Kellhus &amp; Moenghus? by unJon, Auditor

Just some random speculation that I decided to post here because it is tangentially on topic.

We know that a world can be closed to the Outside. We know that inherently soulless creatures can gain a soul. What if Kellhus determines how to lose his soul. Close himself off from the wrath of the Outside. Pretty good way to avoid damnation, assuming that losing a soul doesn't mean losing one's volition in the here and now. view post


Cishaurim explanation posted 03 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; ACishaurim explanation by unJon, Auditor

And those differences raise an interesting question. Is there some combination of Gnosis and Psukhe possible that would be as powerful as Gnosis (or more powerful) and without the mark. Possibly even without the susceptability to Chorae. And we think that Kellhus wouldn't be good at it (drawing from the analogy to Moenghus). Although maybe now he would be since he is 'more than Dunyain.'

I like to think, though, that it will be the son of Kellhus and Esmi that makes this jump, surpassing the father.

Or maybe I'm running in a completely wrong direction. view post


Cishaurim explanation posted 03 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; ACishaurim explanation by unJon, Auditor

EE,

I like to think that Psukhe and Gnosis are orthogonal to each other rather than opposite to each other.

Kellhus on the Cishaurim

Quote: &quot;TTT pg. 217 US hardback&quot;:3n6sk8t1
They recall the tone and timbre, the passion, of the God's vocie--to near perfection--even as the meanings that make up true sorcery escape them.[/quote:3n6sk8t1]

So the analogy is tone and timbre vs. meanings, or heart vs. intellect. It seems to me that there is no reason that these should be mutually exclusive. It just so happens that Moenghus and perhaps Dunyains in general are weak on heart.

I think that the tantalizing possibility exists of getting down the Voice and the Meanings at the same time. To merge Psukhe and Gnosis and make it something more... view post


Akka and the Ciphrang - TTT spoilers posted 04 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AAkka and the Ciphrang - TTT spoilers by unJon, Auditor

I bought it Scott, for the record. Akka shows a bit of ruthlessness but only towards Esmi and only at the end of TTT. I thought his character development was extremely plausible. view post


Characters in Aspect-Emperor posted 04 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCharacters in Aspect-Emperor by unJon, Auditor

Noctis, i agree as far as Akka. I thought that Cnauir's story arc got closure. I think that he will be in AE (but I could also see him not being there), but as a very changed person. view post


Seswatha's history posted 04 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSeswatha's history by unJon, Auditor

I don't remember the story of his death, but the Mandate definitely has his heart, so I think his death is implied. view post


Super-Sorcery posted 04 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSuper-Sorcery by unJon, Auditor

So I proposed this theory in the Q&amp;A section, but I thought that I should move it here as the discussion was getting off-topic.

Psukhe is the sorcery of heart. The Cishaurim remember the "timbre" of God's voice while forgetting the meanings. Getting the Voice almost right is Kellhus's explanation of why the Few cannot see it.

Gnosis is the sorcery of the mind. They remember the meanings of the God.

My theory is that these two sorceries are like two different axes on a Cartesian plane. The mandate are strong on the Intellect scale and the Cish on the Passion scale.

I speculate in AE that someone will learn to combine the best of both. The power of the Gnosis without the Mark!!!

My guess is that it will not be Kellhus. He is probably weak on heart just like Moenghus. But maybe Kellhus could raise a child that is strong on intellect (like the Dunyain) and strong in passion. Intellectually, Kellhus might understand how to raise a child like that. So I'm guessing that his son (daughter?) will surpass him in magic by creating the super sorcery of Psukhe and Gnosis. Becoming the true Shaman and continuing the Dune parellels (Leto overtaking the strength of Mau'dib.) view post


Questions that haunt me after just reading TTT. posted 04 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtQuestions that haunt me after just reading TTT. by unJon, Auditor

I think he is referring to the Compulsion of Esmi, but I agree that it is not possession in the same sense as the Synthese. Still it is pretty close to "demonic possession." view post


Worldhorn &amp; Heron Spear posted 05 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AWorldhorn &amp; Heron Spear by unJon, Auditor

Quote: &quot;Mithfânion&quot;:3qmw7327

This sounds silly, but in order for this to be correct, Earwa would need to have herons just like we have in our own world.

I'm thinking the Heron refers to something else. Maybe Scott could give some enlightenment about it's shape?[/quote:3qmw7327]

Why is that silly? Earwa has humans just like we have in our world. They also have dogs that bark, etc. I think a heron is a heron. view post


Worldhorn &amp; Heron Spear posted 05 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AWorldhorn &amp; Heron Spear by unJon, Auditor

I agree. Weapon + tripod + S-curve = most plausible explanation I have heard. view post


Anasurimbor Maithanet? posted 06 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAnasurimbor Maithanet? by unJon, Auditor

I wonder how the naming conventions work in Earwa. All of the current "Anasurimbors" are from the bastard son of the last high king. Does the bastard really get to take the Anasurimbor name? view post


Questions regarding Conphas posted 06 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtQuestions regarding Conphas by unJon, Auditor

*nods* in agreement with Black on all points except the Cishaurim. I do think that the Consult only infiltrated them in the last dozen years.

Edit: EE beat me to it. view post


Worldhorn &amp; Heron Spear posted 06 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AWorldhorn &amp; Heron Spear by unJon, Auditor

I feel very wishy-washy now, but I am bowing to EE's argument and now thinking that it is a hand-held weapon. Still like the S-curve bit. view post


Super-Sorcery posted 06 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSuper-Sorcery by unJon, Auditor

Hmm...good question. I would say no, because they would still be grasping both imperfectly. view post


TTT Encyclopedia posted 07 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; ATTT Encyclopedia by unJon, Auditor

I guess better safe than sorry, but I don't remember any TTT 'secrets' that get outed in the appendix. view post


Super-Sorcery posted 07 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSuper-Sorcery by unJon, Auditor

I don't see it. I think that would be a very watered down definition of "godhead." view post


who should determine what is &quot;right&quot;? posted 07 March 2006 in Philosophy Discussionwho should determine what is &quot;right&quot;? by unJon, Auditor

I think the missing link in that argument is equating "right" to "best able to multiply." There are a bunch of steps to that argument and cannot be taken for granted. view post


Super-Sorcery posted 08 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSuper-Sorcery by unJon, Auditor

Aside - Is Guest 2 your registered name?

Back on topic - it begs your question not mine. Begging the question only applies when it makes circular one of MY assumptions. You are the one talking about godhead. Do you need to ascend to do either Psukhe or Gnosis? No. I'm not convinced that by combining you need anything more than to be of the Few, strong Intellect, and strong Passions. I think you are making the "godhead" threshold too low by saying you need to ascend to combine them.

Conceded that we are all just speculating based on little or no evidence so anyone could be right. view post


Men v. Nonmen posted 08 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AMen v. Nonmen by unJon, Auditor

Can someone point me to an old post where Scott talks about Eanna sorcery and or breaking of the gates stuff? Sounds interesting and I didn't know any of it. view post


Schools of the 3 seas posted 08 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSchools of the 3 seas by unJon, Auditor

I thought that the Knights of Tryse went with the High King to Ishual in the prolouge of TDTCB. Perhaps not all of them did... view post


Men v. Nonmen posted 08 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AMen v. Nonmen by unJon, Auditor

Thanks, WL view post


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