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Tattooed Hand Auditor | joined 12 May 2004 | 110 posts


Like father like son? posted 26 October 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Now there is that little problem of how the Consult was able to trick the Scarlet Spires that the Chisaurim were behind it, but that seems (to me at least) far less of a stretch than Moenghus purposefully directing a 300 k army with the most powerful anagogic school accompanying directly against himself.


You realize that Moenghus could view this as perfectly logical if he thinks that perparation for the second Apocalypse can only come through forging the Fanim and the Inrithi through the crucile of Holy War.

It sounds like something that would make sense to the totally amoral Dunyain who see only the shortest path. view post


Like father like son? posted 26 October 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Sorry, I mean crucible. I can't spell. view post


Like father like son? posted 26 October 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Well, he sent for his son knowing full well he'd have to get through hordes of Sranc and the northern waste and would probably only get out by the skin of his teeth. He probably knows his training and his sons and perhaps has calculated all the odds. The hardships of the journey are part of preparing Kelhus. We have to assume Daddy is tough as nails and will survive almost any circumstances. Plus, he is in a position of power, so we know he is somewhat protected.

I don't get the feeling that the Mandati are that tight-lipped about prophecies since they add to the credibility of the Mandate's mission. I think a general ignorance of the prophecies is because most in the Three Seas don't believe in the mission anymore. The gnosis is another matter and tight lipped doesn't even begin to describe it. view post


Like father like son? posted 28 October 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Wait, he did? Enslaved by the Sranc? I guess I haven't read the books in a while - can you tell me where it says that? view post


Now listening to... posted 01 November 2005 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow listening to... by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Head for the Shallows by Big Business! The singer is the last living member of Karp and his voice is utterly haunting! view post


Like father like son? posted 02 November 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

The Cishaurim are definitely not blind. Else how would the Cishaurim at the end of TWP have been able to spot Kelhus on the roof top and sail over to him. They see through those snakes around their necks.

The blinding (like so many mystic and shaman practices) is suppose to open a different kind of sight, which probably has something to do with being able to access the Puske (sp?) and why other sorcerers can't see it. And then they can somehow see through the snake's eyes. view post


Like father like son? posted 10 November 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

We are certain that Moenghus is a member of the Cishaurim and controls a faction within it. If we accept that he is a mastermind of the Holy War, in order to make the war feasible, some extraordinary circumstance would have to make a School march with the Inrithi. I think Moenghus arranged the attack on the Scarlet Spires to create such a circumstance - the need for revenge against the Cishaurim. It seems to have worked. The Scarlet Spires is the biggest School in the Three Seas and without them, the Inrithi would be slaughtered by the Cishaurim.

Sorry for my spellings, I am hung over. view post


Like father like son? posted 10 November 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Yes, but perhaps he thinks that the mobilization and transformation of the disparate groups and interests of the Three Seas can only be done through the crucible of war.

The Kian are basically defeated by what is now the largest army in the Three Seas and a lean, mean fighting machine. They are united behind the Circumfix with Kelhus having sacred status at the helm. And I think it is through this process that the Consult even become reality, since so many think they are the fantasies of delusional Mandati. Perhaps the way to win against the Consult requires tactics that would have gone against the grain of the imaginable but now can be accepted through Kelhus.

Of course, we'll see how much Kelhus can really control now in TTT. Nothing ever is as total as it seems. view post


Recomended Ancient Miltary History? posted 15 November 2005 in Author Q & ARecomended Ancient Miltary History? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

It's not exactly ancient history, and it deals mainly with Europe (one chapter on China), but I'm reading William H. McNeill's The Pursuit of Power: Technology, Armed force and Society since A.D. 1000. view post


Recomended Ancient Miltary History? posted 19 November 2005 in Author Q & ARecomended Ancient Miltary History? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

I only read the one chapter on the formation between 1000-1600 of what he calls "the military commercial complex" in Europe. He traces the developments of warfare, both offensive and defensive, from the crossbow to the gun, to different ways of building city walls to protect against the changing assault weapons, and ties these changes to economic and commercial shifts on a mundane, political and regional levels.

I thought it was fascinating, although his long term historical analysis of Europe in relation to the rest of the world was highly problematic. He writes this anticipatory history where everything that happened in 1300 was a preordained beginning of the eventual military domination of Western Europe over the rest of the world. As if what happens 500 years later is inevitable and there is no historical contingency. His only non-European example is China, which he lets stand for the whole non-European world. He obviously has zero knowledge of the way the British took over Bengal, the financial and military base of what they later conquered in the East. Bengal was taken through the colloboration of Bengali bankers, by floating them capital and buying off a general for the British, who promised them trade concessions, they weren't getting from the Nawab of Bengal. It had nothing to do with British military prowess, which did not attain supremecy until the very end of the turn of the 19th century. In the middle of the eighteenth century, Nadir Shah of Iran had the most advanced and effective fighting force probably in the world (and the British sources who watched him invade India all agreed).

But I digress. If you take the wider conclusions he draws, which rest of ridiculous generalizations of Oriental Despotism, with a rock of salt, it's fun to read. view post


Cnaiur and Serwe posted 08 December 2005 in The Warrior ProphetCnaiur and Serwe by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

ALL?

Don't you think that renders his sexuality a little overdetermined. What about cultural norms and his defiance of them? The seduction is a betrayal of his people's ways and of his father. It is not because he loved Moenghus (which we don't know if it was sexual for sure) that he might not be one of the people, but Moenghus lured him into betraying his people and father. Social betrayal and homoerotic transgressions usually had to overlap for the charge of sodomy to be leveled.

There is no such thing as homosexual identitiy (in terms of one's sexual preferences determining the rest of their subjectivity) before the late 19th century. I can point you to a long list of scholarly work to support this contention.

The question is, has Bakker written Cnaiur's sexuality anachronistically or are you reading modern day ideas of sexual determinism into the work? view post


kellhus == good guy?? posted 12 December 2005 in The Darkness That Comes Beforekellhus == good guy?? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

I'm afraid you are wrong. Christian soldiers fought against Muslims - sarascen is a derogatory slur and I don't care to use it shorn of quotation marks - in Spain and Italy before the Crusades. In both cases soliders were required by the Church to repent their sin of killing another human being. At the start of the first Crusade, the Pope issued a Bull saying that killing a Muslim (or a Jew, thousands were slaughtered in the Rhineland by the Crusaders on their way to the Middle East) was outside this definition.

A lot had to do with the collapse of the Roman Empire and the relative poverty of Christian European kingdoms vis a vis the more cultured and wealthy Muslim Spain. The former denounced the latter as morally corrupt to make themselves feel better (to grossly simplify things). The representations of Muslim which followed made the later Papal Bull possible. view post


kellhus == good guy?? posted 12 December 2005 in The Darkness That Comes Beforekellhus == good guy?? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

I didn't mean to imply that being a soldier was a sin in itself, since protection against direct agression was seen as a necessary evil (violence-wise), but breaking a commandment was breaking a commandment, and if you killed someone you had to confess and repent at the end of the day.

I do wonder how this view varied with the various Eastern Christian churches. view post


kellhus == good guy?? posted 13 December 2005 in The Darkness That Comes Beforekellhus == good guy?? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

OK, although most Crusaders were from the Catholic kingdoms.

But, what were we originally talking about of which the historical example was a part? view post


Cnaiur and Serwe posted 15 December 2005 in The Warrior ProphetCnaiur and Serwe by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Well put. I agree with that.

However Moenghus may have used Cnaiur erotically (among other ways) I was having a difficult time picturing him as someone who belonged on a Harley in a gay pride parade. He is too erratic and heterogenous in general. view post


Starring "Insert Actor Here" as Kelhuss! posted 18 December 2005 in Off-Topic DiscussionStarring "Insert Actor Here" as Kelhuss! by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

What's up with your signature quote - what's all this about suave ways of getting women to shut up? view post


Starring "Insert Actor Here" as Kelhuss! posted 18 December 2005 in Off-Topic DiscussionStarring "Insert Actor Here" as Kelhuss! by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

You don't have to remove it, I don't deal with things that pique my annoyance through demands for censorship. But I was wondering if you could tell me what it means, what you think it might be saying. view post


What we look like posted 04 April 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionWhat we look like by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

That is a great picture! view post


What we look like posted 23 May 2006 in Off-Topic DiscussionWhat we look like by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Am I seriously retarded? How the hell do you attach a picture?! view post


Top 10 list of things to do while waiting on Great Ordeal. posted 14 December 2007 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]Top 10 list of things to do while waiting on Great Ordeal. by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

Do we not know when the next book is to be released? view post


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