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How did you get here? posted 21 January 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionHow did you get here? by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Same here. view post


Language posted 25 January 2004 in Author Q & ALanguage by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

On the cover of TDTCB and TWP there is what appears to be vertical sort of language. It also appears in the appendices of TDTCB. I was wondering if this was created by R. Scott Bakker and is a functional language. I figure it is, because on the jacket it says that the author is a student of languages. Anyway, just wondering if it was a working language. view post


Language posted 27 January 2004 in Author Q & ALanguage by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Does each character correspond to an english letter? Or is its own alphabet, or like japanese, with a character holding meaning? If it's a literal translation, I think people might enjoy a dictionary for it. view post


How did you get here? posted 27 January 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionHow did you get here? by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Welcome Elfstone! Which link of Wil's was it? Where did you first hear about TPoN? Also, don't forget to stop by the "Welcome" Forum and introduce yourself. view post


Warrior Prophet synopsis *Possible Spoiler* posted 02 February 2004 in The Warrior ProphetWarrior Prophet synopsis *Possible Spoiler* by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Welcome to the forum!

Where did you get these sypnopsi (or synopses, or whatever)? view post


Question to R.S. regarding release dates. posted 02 February 2004 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I agree. view post


Warrior Prophet synopsis *Possible Spoiler* posted 02 February 2004 in The Warrior ProphetWarrior Prophet synopsis *Possible Spoiler* by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Thanks. I didn't doubt you, I was just curious. view post


Welcome to the Nebulous Forum! posted 02 February 2004 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWelcome to the Nebulous Forum! by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Here's a spot to discuss the eventual release of the eventual third book with an eventual name. I don't know how much use we'll get out of it for a while, but here it is. view post


The Title posted 02 February 2004 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Title by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I thought I'd take a poll to see how many people prefer which title over the other. Feel free to vote and comment. view post


Fantasy posted 02 February 2004 in Literature DiscussionFantasy by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Ah, but I love that magic is so subdued in ASOIAF. It is what lends the books such a realistic, almost historical fiction feel. You could make them into a special on the History Channel and almost get away with it. They are incredibly believable.

I also enjoy the gritty feel. No character is "good" and no character is "evil." Actually, that is part of why the PON appeals to me so much. Every character is multfaceted. view post


Best character posted 02 February 2004 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeBest character by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I really like Kellhus, but I also like CnaiĆ¼r. He has so many layers which just keep getting peeled back. Esmenet is good too, although I don't find her as intriguing. view post


Woh! posted 03 February 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionWoh! by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Do you like it? Its a theme based on TDTCB cover. view post


kellhus == good guy?? posted 03 February 2004 in The Darkness That Comes Beforekellhus == good guy?? by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I think Kellhus is up in the air. He is neutral right now, but all of Bakker's characters are morally ambiguous. No one is saintly, and no one is depraved. So far, at least. view post


Fantasy posted 03 February 2004 in Literature DiscussionFantasy by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I totally agree with that. In ASOIAF there has been essentially no magic to date. A few bits here and there, but largely none. Yet there is no doubt that what you are reading is a work of fantasy.

Are you publishing your book? I'd like to look for it when it comes out. view post


kellhus == good guy?? posted 03 February 2004 in The Darkness That Comes Beforekellhus == good guy?? by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I mean illogically depraved. For example, I find many of tolkien's characters too unbelievably evil, lacking the brains that one would require to get anything truly evil done. view post


Woh! posted 03 February 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionWoh! by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Most of the design work is Wil's, though I did give my input. view post


Best character posted 04 February 2004 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeBest character by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Yes, the emperor was a character who continued to surprise me and I still am not really sure if he is brilliant or moronic. view post


kellhus == good guy?? posted 04 February 2004 in The Darkness That Comes Beforekellhus == good guy?? by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Do we ever actually hear from Kellhus that he is going to kill his father? I never remember him thinking that or saying that in an arena ni which we can believe. I am rereading right now, so its possible it simply slipped my mind. view post


About the books posted 05 February 2004 in The Warrior ProphetAbout the books by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

You should join the forum, Guestage! We'd love to have another member. view post


Question to R.S. regarding release dates. posted 05 February 2004 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I personally really like the hardback though. I would vote for a HB edition. view post


About the books posted 06 February 2004 in The Warrior ProphetAbout the books by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Join the forum, read the book, then spew your thoughts out! Not that you have to... view post


Question to R.S. regarding release dates. posted 06 February 2004 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I got into collecting about a year ago, mostly with Robert Jordan (who needs to get a move on) and Robin Hobb. Honestly, When I first picked up TDTCB and randomly read a hunk out of the middle in the bookstore, I was so excited to find a new author who I thought would go somewhere I wanted "the hardback," first edition first printing. I was even more excited when I discovered that there was no Hardback, because I figured that they would re-release the book in hardback in a year or so when things picked up and then the trade would be worth a lot.

So I'm betting that provided RSB does make it big (and I think he will), these early editions will be the ones others are drooling looking at on used book sites for $200.

That's just my extremely amateur opinion. view post


About the books posted 06 February 2004 in The Warrior ProphetAbout the books by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Congratulations Fade! Member number 15! That calls for celebration. view post


Woh! posted 08 February 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionWoh! by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Well, its a good thing we're here to help you work through it. view post


Curious if you... posted 09 February 2004 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I think the films should be taken separately from the books as tributes to the books. They should not be mistaken for replacements for the books or even good summaries, but as an artistic work inspired by the books and with a merit apart from their connection. view post


Curious if you... posted 09 February 2004 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Is there anywhere we can see the S&S cover? view post


On The Warrior Prophet posted 11 February 2004 in Philosophy DiscussionOn The Warrior Prophet by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I couldn't agree more with that statement. Just out of curiosity, what is your religious bent? I get the feel from the books that you would be an atheist, maybe agnostic. I'm personally an atheist, but at the same time I love reading about religions and religious conflict. I think its because at their deepest everyone wants to believe. It seems to me that having the certainty, or true belief in a god would be one of the most blissful sensations in the world. You are safe and taken care of. I think that is where religion stems from: human fear. view post


On The Warrior Prophet posted 12 February 2004 in Philosophy DiscussionOn The Warrior Prophet by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

My personal atheism arises from an inability to believ in anything higher. To me some kind of supernatural existence is illogical and makes no sense, and I think to believe in it because of the resulting implications if you don't is not really a belief, but a fearful claim to belief. I cannot make mayself believe without some kind of evidence showing it to be so.l view post


Curious if you... posted 12 February 2004 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

By all means, feel free to do it here!

I am actually quite invigorated and intllectually interested with these discussions, it is a rare opportunity to "chat" with such a studied person.

What exactly is the TTY forum? view post


On The Warrior Prophet posted 13 February 2004 in Philosophy DiscussionOn The Warrior Prophet by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I agree with Scott that numbers provide a model of reality, but they do not make up reality. He said it very well.

Scott, I don't think I see what you were saying about relinquising free will. I assume you mean that if science can predict neurologically what we are going to do then we actually make no choices but just follow through on action-reaction type behavior. That may be, but each of is genetically/biologically/raised in a way different enough to provide differing action-reaction chains. This is then what free will would be reduced to, and I think it quite possible.

You were also talking about responsibility and morality. You as an entity are responsible for your behavior, whether you can help it or not. We already see this in psychopaths, who are deranged and relaly cannot control themselves. However, that does not keep them out of jail. Morality also does not have to be based on a supernatural power. The Natural Rights philosophists came up with a model of rights, admittedly based on their western cultural and therefore religious beliefs. Morality can be described as the mean (as in average) behavior of a society. We have different moral standards than did ages, even decades past. I think it is possible to have a cohesive society with sound moral footing without any kind of supernatural power involved.

(by the way, I am LOVING this discussion!) view post


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