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I agree with everyone who criticizes Salvatore. He can be entertaining yet after reading a couple of his books he becomes predictable and boring. view post
To answer your post, yes. I do not think that they are occultic in nature. There is one organization in particular named the C.F.R. which stand for the council on foriegn relations. It appears to be the political front in America for the Builderberger society. In fact both President Bush and John Kerry are members of the C.F.R. The C.F.R is the group that wanted the war in Iraq and that is why politians in both parties supported the war. That includes Bush and Kerry. Sorry to all those out there that thought Kerry would have brought meaningful change, because he wouldn't have. So here's my conspiracy and world domination beliefs for now. Sorry for the misspellings and the long post. Do not worry there is more to come. view post
I must comment on some matters here. Not to defend the positions of the Popes to lead a holy war against the muslims. In fact I have no desire to defend any pope. Yet I must point out the muslims weren't peacefully living in their lands and all the sudden these meany Franks by order of the pope attacked them. The muslims previous to the crusades conquered Spain, Sicily and were invading southern Italy on regular intervals. In fact in 800 A.D. a pope watched muslim invaders kill several hundred Anglo-Saxon pilgrims right outside the Vaticant. Also it was the Emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire who asked the pope to help him after the Seljuk Turks conquered Antioch. The first crusade was led through Constantine and defeated the Seljuk army sent to destroy it. In fact the niece of the Emporer stated the the charge the Frnaks led against the Turks would have shattered the walls of Babylon. So yes the Orthodox Greeks wanted at least the first crusade to ease the pressure on them. What the Emporer did not want was the amazing success the first crusade had. In fact the next emporer became so jealous that he had his navy kidnap the King of France while he was returning from the failed second crusade. That is all I will say for now. Please comment. view post
Thanks H. I see what you mean as far as what actually was happening. Also as a disclaimer I was not trying to religiously justify war. That is a weight of accountability i would not want to carry. Thanks for your statements as it is a very well rounded veiw. 
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I realize this post will be very biased and I hope to not anger anyone. As I believe the God of the Old Testament is still the God of the New Testament. But is there such a thing as a Holy War? I can only answer from what I understand from the Bible. Which is what I base my understanding of holiness. Again I realize there are many that do not hold this veiw. So for the record I am not trying to force my view only to explain it. No where in the Bible does it say Holy War nor does it call those that fought holy for fighting. King David was forbiden to build the Temple because of the wars he fought. What I understand is no war is holy, but at time a needed act, to perserve ones people for example. I believe if a war was to be holy God would have to take a side. From the example I see of Joshua speaking to the Captain of the Lord of Hosts outside of Jericho God does not take the different sides that man does. The Crusades and all the Jihads were not of God and certainly can not be considered holy. I know that there is much to comment on so please do. view post
SF I see that you point to God use of the Babylonians in war. I would hardly think that God considered that war or it's soldiers holy! There were wars ordered by God for a purpose. People who hate God and the Bible cite all the cases in which God speaks of war. I find that intersting considering the fact that most people who hate God spend a lot of time trying to disprove the very Bible that they quote from. view post
Brad, I see where you come from on people stating that God does not sanction killing. I do not believe that I stated any such thing. If I did it was in error and I apologize. My point is this. Most people who have declared a holy war or jihad heard only from their own booket book or their own hate not God. I realize that you do not believe in a Christian God. No problem I do not wish to argue the point with you. Hopefully it does not appear that I am. Yet I must add that not every war spoken of in the Bible was a direct order of God. In other words those that did it did not go to war for God's sake. Therefore they committed a self-intersted act and did not do the will of God. Just to make it clear not every war fought by Isreal or Judah was holy. Certainly the wars fought by the Syrians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians or the Greeks. Yes God used them for His own purpose, but they were not holy. Sorry for going on and on. This is my personal belief and it is not stated to push anyone or to offend. If I have offended I am sorry but know it is not on purpose. view post
To answer the question were wars ordered by God? Yes, they were. As you pointed out with Joshua, King Saul, King David and so on. If these men had not fought then yes they would have been outside of the will of God. I can not explain this compared to the commandments given by Jesus. All I know is to be holy one must obey God and love Him with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. One more point to add. David without dispute in the Bible was a man of God. We know he fought multiple wars and killed many people in the role of protector of his people. As stated before he was a man of God, in fact a man after God's own heart. Yet because of all his killing he was forbidden to build the temple for God. Only a man of peace his son Solomon could build the temple. I do think that gives us some perspective. To the original topic of God ordering a war is it Holy. I believe in the cases of Joshua, Moses and David that yes they were a holy war. I lack understanding on many of these things but Aleo is right if God orders it it is holy. view post
Azdahak I understand your point of view. Meaning that a socialist democracy is your preferred society. What about people here in America who do not wish to live in that type of society. Personally I do not want to hand most of my money over to the government and have them take care of me. Thomas Jefferson once stated that if the government has the power to give you food, clothing and shelter they also have the power to take it away. Right now in America if the government controled those functions, the truth is they would not take them away. They would leverage them for their own control of the society. Another fear I have to having is a socialist democracy is the office of the president regardless of party has gain power never granted to it by the constitution. I state all this for one reason. Over the last 20 or more years the presidents have been moving to have power similar to that of a Roman Emporer. How they do this is through executive order. Bill Clinton issued over 400 and the current president is on the same course. Our congress is content to stand by and do nothing even though the power is theirs according to the constitution. Like the Roman emporers taking power from the senate. If we have one person with majority power that controls the food, clothing, housing and medical needs of the coutry. Then what is to stop him from abusing his powers. We have many examples of that in history. Recent examples are Stalin, Hitler, Saddam, Pol Pot and Ho Che Mein. One more thought that I have a hard time getting around is the fact that the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party is what the Naxi party's official name was. view post
Randal Those are some interesting thoughts. Paying about 30-40% on taxes is about what we in America pay anyways. Most of are taxes are income tax and property tax. Our politians like to hide taxes in the basic use of services so it is hard to say what our exact percentage is. I will say this much every time I check my pay stub a strong urge to call the police and tell them I have been robbed comes over me. Thanks for your post that is info I did not know about. view post
I have to disagree with being a part of a world government. America has many problems of its own without a doubt. We can at times truly be arrogant, self-conceited, proud and even cruel. Yet, at the same time so is the rest of the world. Many countries say why can't America adopt more of the ways in which we do things? I understand that statement America makes the same statement all the time too. I find this to be arrogant on both sides. I am a patriot who loves America and the American way of life, but I am not a nationalist that thinks the American way of life needs to be pushed on the rest of the world. At the same time I appreciate other peoples from other countries being patriotic and loving their way of life. I do not appreciate them trying to tell us that we are not as smart or as sophisticated as them because we do not do things like them. To people in other countries that tell America that we are stupid for who we vote for let me just tell you that I find it offensive. No I did not vote for Bush I voted for Nader. I do not support the war in Irag. It is unconstitutional and wrong. It is unconstitutional because congress never voted to go to war. They merely voted to hand the president a blank sheet of paper to work off of. In other words they voted to give up their rights to say yes or no. I find that to be cowardly and wrong. I believe the out cry should have been to replace congress with people who aren't afraid to do their job and vote on the issues that are in their power to vote on and really make policy decisions instead of letting the president do it. Under the constitution the president is the Commander in Chief of all American forces and has some other limited executive powers, but all legisative powers and the power to long term deploy the military rest in the hands of the congress America can not go around the world trying to fix all these problems militarily. That is too reminisent of the Roman empire for me. As the first leaders of this country stated. Friendship and trade without partiality to all, and entangling alliances with none. That is not xenphobia just what I believe would be the best way to operate with foreign policy. view post
Sorry for the double post. To everyone in England You have my sympathies for those horrible explosions in London. I feel terrible about the loss of life there. I pray it does not happen again. view post
Will, You are right I did not make a clear point about us not being apart of a global government. In a way I did address it by saying we need to stay out of other countries militarily. We as Americans need to as I stated before have open friendship with all and free trade. No America should not be the overlords of the world. To me that goes for any country or group of countries. I do not want to see a global government because I feel that as the common man we will lose a lot of our direct representation from our leaders. One example and then I will stop and wait for feed back. That example is who are all the active members of the Security Council. i do not mean the countries. I mean the names of the individual people. I did not vote for a one of them. That makes me think that there is an accountability gap. That is one of my main concerns about a global governing body. view post
To add to what Cynical Cat stated. Not only do we have the accounts of his disciples but also of Josephus in his book the Jewish War he also accounts of Jesus. He was not a follower of Christ. view post
The only sport I can stand to watch is American football. I like college and pro. Go Dolphins and go Gators. view post
Cnaiur is my most favorite character. For some strange reason I can understand why he is the he is. I also like Conphas. His intelligence and ruthlessness make him a very interesting character. view post
Cesear's Legions was a great book and so was Nero's Killing Machine also written by the same author. He goes into detail of their training, weapons and tactics. Sorry I do not remember the authors name my books are at home. view post
Scott, I noticed that there are two oppossing veiws of warfare in the books. Conphas states that war is intellect and Khellus States that war is conviction. At one point in time I would have totally agreed with the belief that Conphas holds. Yet after reading TWP and reflecting back on several wars and campaigns I have read I see that conviction is a major role too. What made you pick up on this and make it a part of your books? I also love the way Cnauir describes warfare as an arguement it is priceless. view post
I just watched the Syriana. I thought it was a very good movie. It will probably make a lot of people mad by what it is impling. It is certainly worth watching. view post
I have to agree with anor's veiw on this. I think bustler is reading too much into the character, but he did make a few points that bear merit. view post
I think the real betrayal that Cnauir feels is due to the fact Moengus provided something that was lacking in his life. Moengus show Cnauir genuine interest. We know that it was fake interest but to Cnauir it was genuine. Then Moengus showed Cnauir that he truly understood him. I do not believe that those were things Cnauir was accustomed to so like a man starving he jumped on those interests showed him and gained a strong emotional attachment towards the one that showed them to him. Cnauir has showed that sex has little emotional meaning to him so whether or not he had sex with Cnauir is really inconsequential to the fact of the emotional betrayal. Let us also look at the fact that Cnauir laments the death of his mother because Moengus impregnated her. Cnauir axe to grind with Moengus I believe covers many things. view post
Well AJ without giving away to much. The movie shows the American corporate and governmental coruption in the oil bussiness. At the same time showing the effects in the Middle East. As a side note it reveals the economic game between America and China and how we use oil for leaverage. view post
I am not saying that he is not gay. I am just saying that that is not the prime mover to his motivation. I believe he had a relationship with Moengus but my question is does he continue to seek out those relationships. Is that what he is after now? view post
Kansas that is agood point. I believe that is his prime motivation for what he is doing. view post
I would suggest White Wolf. They seem to be pretty good or at least five years ago when I played their RPG's they were. view post
The issue of the skin spies was one that I always questioned. We know that in the TWP Kellhus saw about a dozen in the camp. They were a factor to him but not part of his goal. As long as the skin spies stayed out of his way he did nothing to them. As soon as one of them did get in the way he eliminated it. The example being the first Sarcellus. view post
These last few posts have nothing to do with TTT. They should be deleted and the spammer banned. Also if someone wants to gamble it is easy enough you do not need to add links. view post
A friend of mine gave me a book called Darwin's God by Kenneth Miller. So far it has been a great read by a very well thought out author. view post
I think that the worst author I have ever read is Eddings and Salvatore is a close second. I realize this is a worst book discussion, but it seems almost all the books written by these two count for this category. view post
sorry that last post was me. view post
I am reading Cleopatra's Kidnappers. Basically it is about Ceasar and the 6th legion in Egypt after the death of Pompey. view post
The Biblical definition for holiness is to be set aside exclusively for the purpose of God. That in mind people who were called of God and ordered to go to war by Him and did so with the right heart and mind would be considered holy men. Their purpose would be holy and the war would holy. What about the point that killing is bad? How can God order such an evil act? It is simply a matter of purpose and perspective. God has ultimate authority and judgement, therefore He has the right to order death and war. I on the other hand am just a man with selfish motives and purposes that are evil. There is no way that any murder or war that I could cause would be holy. view post
Mog, I agree David Eddings is the worst. view post
My understanding is that Sethwatha would not let him speak even under torture. That is why Iyokos said that none of the dozen or so Mandate that were tortured ever revealed the gnosis. That Mandate have no choice after touching Seswatha's heart they are in some way bound by him. view post
Scott if luck should have it that you can come to Chicago or Milwaukee please let me know I will be there. view post
One point I found interesting about the no-god was at the end of The Warrior Prophet. Systhenese(sp) brother was asked by that tribes man if he was the no-god. His reaction was as if he had been paid the highest compliment ever. Does anyone else think that this may be a clue as to whether or not the no-god is a creation of the Inchoroi or just something they found. view post
Now reading a Clash of Kings by G.R.R. Martin. view post
I believe that the the reason Conphas died is because the army and the imperial sorcerers lost faith in him. Well how is that? One point that was spoken of several times in the last two books. No one had lost more sons to the Fanimiry that the empire had. So here the empire's ancient enemy is on the ropes on the verge of complete destruction and Conphas tells his army let's go destroy our fellow men of the tusk and save our ancient foe. That is not going to fly with his army so therefor they betrayed him at the moment of his greatest need. view post
I would have to say that i believe in God. At the same time I do not think that there is any physical proof of God. God is to be discovered in other ways from our physical senses. view post
What I really liked about the series is cnauir's observations of Kellhus manipulating people. I also found it funny when he called Akka a woman hearted baffoon. By the way i really like Akka but it was still funny. view post
I know this has been stated before and I agree with the thought. Akka will be the Seswatha of the second apocalypse. That is my belief at least. view post
I have gotten three people to read the series over the last year. I must admit it is hard to do because the second you say it is fantasy people try to get all sophisticated. You would think that a good book with an awesome plot and message would be accepted no matter the genre. Oh well some people will not know what they are missing. view post
One thing that I would like to add is there are a lot of critics on the board, which is not a bad thing. Not as an attack on what Mystar stated about the people on this board attacking Mr. Goodkind is not really true. I write that because there are 740 registered members and only a handful have actually said anything bad about Mr. Goodkind and some people even defended him to some extent. Personally I have read the series all the way to The Pillars of Creation. Pretty soon I will pick up the series and finish it because I have come to far not to. If you enjoy the series great if not great. view post
I have read this thread and found it amusing at times. Now I think it is time for X-ray, Aldarion and Kidruhil Lancer to kiss and make up with Mystar. 
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Truthfully the guy just wanted a cheaper room. I seriously doubt that he truly feels entitled to a better rate. I believe he was hoping that you would feel he was entitled to a cheaper rate. Some people are always shopping for a bargain and will say whatever to get that bargain. view post
[quote:20ufgxmh]Jus to see where peoples opinions are coming from. Im sure people who have noone close to them in the armed forces are goin to have different opinions than someone who does personally I think anyone who has served his nation should be treated as royalty regardless if the war was the right thing to do.[/quote:20ufgxmh]
Well WP I look forward to you treating me like royalty I served for six years in the Navy and will be joining the National Guard here shortly. Seriously I do not expect special treatment but of course I was never where the Iraqi's could shoot at me. I will say that floating around the Persian Gulf in 120 degree weather is no fun and the occasional harassment by the Irainians is annoying. The way I see it is this. If somone wants to show special consideration to military people then great and if not great.
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I read most of the posts here already and felt the need to add my two cents. Forgive me if my write up is not as well thought out as Randall, Peter or Will. According to my beliefs God created both good and He created evil. That is stated in the book of Isaiah. From a non philisophical stand point good is good because God defines it as such and evil is evil again because God said so. I do dissagree with the thought that God does these things based off of whims. God is not whimsical at all. Another thought is if God is good then why is there evil. My understanding is that God does not want automatons but people who choose Him and His ways willingly. view post
for the most part I agree with you. If Kellhus had not come along then the three seas would have been easy pickins in about 20 more years. view post
dharok the nonmans identity is Mekertrig. He is the same nonman that nailed seswatha to the wall. view post
Sorry the last post was mine. view post
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What about the description of The Battle of Trantis Bay? "...thereby denying the [b:2v6hx7jm]First [/b:2v6hx7jm]Holy War its primary source of water..." Does this mean there are more holy wars coming??
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I believe the second holy war will be led by Kellhus against the consult and the no-god. I do not think the consult has faced crazed religious fanatics yet
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Primal, I would not say that I am into anime but I have seen a few that I enjoy. Berserk, Hellsing and Karas were very good. Berserk in my opinion is the best. view post
.[quote:37dg89oe]If I was living in the Three Seas, I just might be a whore too. It is a hard place to live. This is not about what the woman could or couldn't do...it was about what she MUST do. Yes she is weak and seemingly betrays the latest lover to take up the next strongest guy that comes along for security, but so does every woman. You only need to look around at the majority of the women who inhabit the news or even your neighborhoods to see that every woman is looking for security as every man is looking for adoration. This scene is played out by every woman who stays with an abusive or degenerate man just because he is security. Even when the woman is supporting said slacker who lays passed out on the couch from whatever vile potion he consumed, she will still stay because to leave him would to be to give up on her dream of finding Prince Charming behind the Toad she first kissed and to step out into the terrifying concrete jungle alone. If Bakker is writing about his critique of every woman, then he is also writing about every man...the eternal lust for power and war and to dominate the women in his path and to overcome the perceived weakness of himself. Again, look only as far as today's headlines to see every manner of man conquering some foe, whether on a field of war or of sport. From the Emperor to Akka, you can see the self doubt that every man longs to have resolved for him, either by his accomplishments or his woman or lover...his prize. Maybe also he even touches on a homosexual fantasy that many men fear, that in even the sexual preference there might be a weakness. You have missed the scope of Bakker's writing.....yes, he writes of himself but he also places all of humanity into his reflections of himself.[/quote:37dg89oe] I agree with this by and large with the exceptions to a woman's point of view due to the fact that I am not a woman. Bakker is writing a critique of humanity in a medival time period. view post
I wanted to get other peoples veiw on what is happening between Hezbollah, Israel and the people of Lebanon that are caught in the middle. view post
I believe that if Mekeritrig and the other eratics could some how be restored with their memories they would most likely turn on the consult. Of course good luck with that because it won't happen most likely. view post
Liberals and conservatives both use the bully pulpit and propaganda. The liberals have mainstream media and the conservatives have the more popular talk show hosts. What irratates me the most is we seldom debate issues any more before we run quickly into defamation of character and shaming of people. i do not mean this in context to this board but general American and even world politics. One fear and shaming tactic used a lot in America is the term intolerant. Most that use that term do not even use it right. It is not intolerance to disagree and think something is wrong. Intolerance is to physically and verbally be uncivil and violent. People that use the intolerant stick because you disagree with them are wrong. You can only have tolerance if there are disagreeing parties. If everyone agrees there is no tolerance because everyone is on the same side. I find that those that proclaim themselves tolerant and say those that disagree with them are intolerant are actually the intolerant one because through embarasment and shaming they try to silence the other opposing veiws. view post
Soory that last post was mine. view post
I will argue that the fanim are more like Christianity than the Inrithi based on the fact that I myself and many other do not worship saints or angels and the point that There is no Biblical Trinity or worship of the other previous mentioned. view post
[quote:1zbuzbsa]i admit that i'm mostly ignorant on the issue, as i try to avoid watching the news these days, but from what i've seen, i'm not sure this is true. any time that i do hear something, it's about how isreals rockets hit a hospital, or a school, or so on. either way, both sides are at fault, so as far as i'm concerned, they can bomb the hell out of eachother.[/quote:1zbuzbsa] Do not worry Gierra they most certainly will. This fight needs to be able to reach its conclusion which appears to be the destruction of Hezbollah. The international force sent there will lack the fortitude to truely keep the peace. view post
I'm trying to find some travel/vacation catalogs... did any of you come across one? What? Wrong forum. Better yet go to another forum all together for that kind of info. view post
So what your saying is if i do drugs I can become one of the greatest artists of all time? One other question is did Da Vinci do drugs at all? He was very creative. view post
Randall, I agree that such people exist indeed. I know they do because my dad guarded such people for 20 years and sometimes would tell us about them. Basically they were sociopaths that only cared to pleasure themselves and find their own comforts. view post
Harrol wrote: God is not whimsical at all. are you kidding me?!? have you even seen an elephant or a sloth or a penis??? O.K. I hate saying this but what I meant was God does not make sudden rash decisions that go against everything he ever said. view post
Sorry for over reacting. Next time I will tone down my response with a full scale invasion of Iago and Gierra instead of a forum response. Gierra, Iago and Barney the Dinosaur are now the axis of evil. view post
Primal that is a good point. I believe from what I see those fights must be allowed to meet their conclusion. If not they seem to just smolder and later on reignite. I believe that the day will come when America leaves Iraq and Afghanistan and whent he U.N. leaves the former Yugoslav area that the fights there will flame back up worse than ever. view post
[quote:31muty0i]First, since when do Yanks care for international community..? [/quote:31muty0i] Well Sokar that is very wrong and jerkish of you and a horrible way to make a point. But maybe being rude and obnoxious is just the way people were you are from are! I do not like to slander Sokar but you need to get off your little self righteous pulpit and understand every country tries to munipulate events to their advantage. view post
Sokar, This last post of yours was a littlie more detailed and therefore it did not just look like a rant. Your first post on this subject looked like an obnoxious rant. In reply no your understanding of politics is not obvious by your first or even second post on this topic. By the way since you have the courage to insult America as a country why don't you have the courage to tell us where you are from? In stead of being cryptic and just letting us know you are not from England. view post
It is my (wishful) presumption that the new version of the dreams are only seen by Akka. It is my thought that Kellhus would be able to infer its' meaning if the other Mandati were having them and that would ruin the surprise. That's what I meant by that statement. If my assumption proves correct, Akka is Seswatha's last true disciple/student. I believe that you are correct in this. i believe it will add a whole new twist to AE. view post
Kellhus will keep Esmi due to her loyalty. She believes that Kellhus is the the hope of the worls. Akka and Kellhus will most likely be reunited just after the start of the Second Apocalypse. I bet Kellhus will convince the humans that they are fighting a holy war in order to harness their fanatasisms. view post
Well put Entropic. view post
I believe those children will be used by Kellhus to achieve the shortest path. He will need intelligent people to help lead the humans against the consult. I believe the destruction of the consult is one of Kellhus's big objectives in order to achieve the ultimate goal of becoming a self-moving soul. view post
Nerdanel, Wow what an observation. i am going to have to go back and really look at that. I hope that White Lord, Mith or Entropic also look at this to see what their input is. view post
Sedulo I agree. He will have voluntary help, but I suspect that he will crush most of the consult. Another wacky therory I have is that He will turn the nonmen erratics. If the erratics turn against the consult then things would be interesting. view post
No kellhus and Akka will be brought back together by the rise of the consult and of the No-God. I believe it will mirror Seswatha and Celemonis's (sp) relationship. Yet I sense Scott will throw something in there to break the cycle so that the Second Apocalypse will not be a carbon copy of the first. Why do I think Kellhus can turn the Erratics? Well first Seswatha was freed from the wall even though a nonman had him prisoner. I do not belive that Seswatha won his freedom by force but rather he gained his freedom by suppling the Nonman with something he needed. In other words memories. i believe that Kellhus can build off of this. The erratics do not serve by desire but by need. If that need is removed then I am sure the consult would have hell to pay from the Erratics. I know goofy theory and hard to support but i believe Scott has dropped enough clues that it is possible. view post
Does anyone know when Neuropath is comming out? view post
That is possible but highly unlikely. That he discovered cursing singularity. I never realized how much Scott cussed in his books. I guess I filter out cussing naturally after being in the military for several years. No one curses like sailors who are bored or drunk or just about any other time. view post
I have some times thought the same thing but then again there are points that make the No God look sinister. The example of Kussalt. There is another istance that took place in TTT that I will not mention here that also makes me think that Mog Pharu is indeed malicious. I will go to that forum to post it there. view post
This post is for this topic and also for a topic in the WP section. The No-God must have some awareness and conscience. I base this off of TTT page 250 where Kellhus and Aurang are talking and Kellhus tells him that Mog is dissappointed by his failure at Mengedda and that he is coming for him. This infers some sort of awareness and even to me a level of malevolence. view post
True enough he may not be completely aware of himself but he is a destroyer and a ravager. The question to me is are these inate side effects of his being or are they intentionally done by him? If the answer is that he intentionally destroies and brings death then I say he is malevolent whether he completely understands himself or not. view post
That's a good point i had forgotten about that description of the No-God in TWP. view post
True he is extremely tall especially when you are standing right in front of him and you have to look straight up to see him. He is one of the nicest people I have ever met. view post
Wert I could not have said it better. view post
Truthfully I do not see what Esmi needs to be redeemed from. She has done the best she can with what she has. Do not get me wrong I feel horrible that Akka has so far gotten the raw deal but ibelieve that will only make him strong enough to be a serious threat to the consult. Back to Esmi she is carrying Kellhus's child. That child will be very important in 20 years but to reach its potential the child will need Kelhus as a mentor not Akka. This is a fact that i believe Esmi is most aware of. view post
Wow now I am going to have nightmares 
. I thought Scott's stuff was rough he has nothing on you Gierra. By the way someone get that chainsaw away from Gierra while WP distracts her.
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Well since i am not getting any help we'll just have to let Gierra keep her chainsaw. view post
I am 5' 8" so Scott towered 10 inches over me. Still I was most impressed by how personable he is. view post
[quote:1qz5q90y]Actually, right is the opposite of left. Which is why communists are so evil.[/quote:1qz5q90y] That makes perfectly good sense. This debate seems to use alot of circular reasoning. Especially if you accept the belief that there are no absolutes. Even though the statement that there are no absolutes is an absolute in and of itself. view post
What do you mean by manowar. I am not familar with that expression. view post
I am guessing 3. view post
I wrote three because that's what I thought I heard before and Werthead confirmed it. view post
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[quote:1pxto0hy]After reading half of TTT, I am beginning to take back all the nice things I said about Esmi previously. I wanted to believe that she was not the object of Bakker's female bashing and I still want to believe that she made the best choice when she chooses to stay with Kellhus, but I am also disappointed in her.
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And here I thought Ikurei Istriya was the object of Scott's female bashing 
I do not think there is anything wrong with Esmi. I only wish that more people had her kind of strength to keep going on and doing what must be done.
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We all realize that these characters are fake, but yet I have met people who in some fashion closely resemble Serwe a simple woman that wants some sort of importance and meaning in her life. I also know people like Esmi intelligent, a form of their own strength, but yet falible and all too human. I have met very few people that have the cunning coldness of Istiya and none that have all her qualities. view post
I see they do look extremely lame. i hate lame metal bands. view post
That is some great insight Mahajanga I never really looked at it quite that way. view post
I have tried to get into the first book of the Thomas Covenant series but the pacing is killing me. So is the part where he raped the girl that was helping him and then appears to think nothing of it. view post
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[quote:2q3023mc]You raise a good point about Esmi reaching a higher level of freedom as Kellhus' wife. I still fear that she will be limited in her status and just become another pawn in his plans.[/quote:2q3023mc] That is true. A very useful and powerful chess piece but still just a piece on the board. What did Akka say? He stated that Kellhus can not be possessed but that he possesses. Kellhus can not help but make a tool of all. view post
[quote:3oz3t5tq]Now if Karma is effective, then suffering will be fully returned to its creator. But it's possible that Karma is not effective; that someone can do harm but not have it returned upon themselves, or receive the suffering only in part. [/quote:3oz3t5tq] I believe the law of what goes around comes around is in full effect. view post
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Any time White Lord posts it is a good thing. The man has a lot of great insight. view post
Your information looks right to me. I just have not figured out how big a role that will play in the future. His ability to teleport is a function of the Third Phase I believe. view post
I second mith coming back. Mith and WL are quite a combination. view post
I have heard of the horse. The band must be remembered as a horrible point and embarasment to rock history. view post
Well certainly with out some sort of truth or reality then science is impossible to have. For example you can not have a measurement without a reference I am not a scientist but I work on their lab equipment and I know a lot of their findings in some way comes from what they can measure and reference. Without some form of truth and reality then what do we as people have to go by? view post
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That was very good Primal. I agree that there is an absolute truth that we as people have not attained to yet or maybe never will. view post
If he is a tool then why do the Inchorai worship him? Even their constructs such as the Wracu worship him. view post
Does anyone here follow the HBO series on Rome? I watched the first two episodes of it last night and found it to be a great show. view post
I do not remember where it is at in the books but we are told that the Inchorai summoned the No-God rather than creating him. view post
That is what I do. I just rent the dvd. view post
Do not worry some day they will all die and be seen no more on this forum. view post
They certainly sound like losers. I would go see Metallica over them any day. Wait a minute I would go see Metallica over anyone any day. view post
Notice I said someday Kind of like when people say someday I will quit smoking and they do when they get emphazema (sp) view post
I am not trying to argue i am trying to get as many of the pieces together as I can and hopefully figure something out about him. So far I find the concept of the No-God to be fascinating and unique. view post
Well I have fallen for it then.
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Well Krijates Iryssas your perceptions are much greater than mine. It was not until the third book that I knew Cnauir was gay/bisexual. view post
There is no one antagonist in this story. You have the consult, the No-God and Kellhus who can argueably be protagonists. Akka is a very human individual in fact his personality and how he feels about peopl seems very similar to Seswatha in the dreams. There are differences though, like Seswatha was politically astute where as Akka is inept because he tries to hard. Now that Akka has nothing to try so hard for he may become a master at Benjaku and therefore serve many purposes. As for turning to the consult? I doubt it. Akka will become the source of their nightmares they will scream his name in dread as his form becomes the incarnation of Seswatha on the battlefield. In TTT Akka even marvels at what he did to the Scarlet Spires because Seswatha took over in some form. Why is Seswatha so dominant in Akka and not the rest of the Mandate? I belive it is due to a kindred spirit and deeply similar motivations that go beyond simply hating the Consult. view post
[quote:2fq04m8m]two different authors two different styles alot of great stuff im my opinion of course remember: to each his own[/quote:2fq04m8m] I agree to each his own. view post
Another thing that threw me to the fact that Cnauir was gay is that in his own pov he seems only interested in killing the men he sees and not having carnal relations with them. In fact even after book three he seems to only really have interest in Moenghus and not any other men. With exception to the night he thought Kellhus was Moenghus and then the night he buggered Conphas. When he buggered Conphas that seems to be more out of an attempt to defile more so than desire. view post
We all know that in the PON sorcerers are damned the second they speak in the God's togue. Does anyone else here think the same is true for spammers? The second they spam they are doomed to hell. I think that theyt are but I am not quite sure. view post
Nerdanel I do not think that the nonmen are using the Dunyain to infiltrate human society to sow discord. The consult is using skin spies to do that job. view post
I do think that Kellhus's delusion in thinking that he has a link to the outside would prevent him from furthering the aim of the consult at all. I mean he will not try to seal off the outside. Do to his appearantly open link to the No-God raises questions about him being easily manipulated like the Sranc. view post
Scilvenas what board are you a mod on? view post
In the Appendages of TTT it states that Seswatha is believed to be Nau-Cayati father after having an affair with Nau's mother. view post
I work around a bunch of scientists and engineers who are smarter than I. Their social skill are lacking so in that way they aren't to smart but in the scientific field they are brilliant. view post
Yeah kind of like the mods at Dragonmount. view post
Wow! What a broad topic. I know this will sound negative but i see two big mistakes. We tied Iraq into the war on terrorism and the other mistake was nor pursuing actual terrorist more ruthlessly. It is almost like we are using 9-11 as an excuse to occupy foriegn land. If we must go into a place to fight then we should go in kill and leave. The internal affairs of a country are their own. All we should dictate is consequences to them for harboring and suppling those that will kill our fellow countrymen. view post
Gierra I thought that was your normal behaviour. I mean avoiding people and news papers. view post
Well i held the belief of open trade and friendship with all. I hoped that if we would maintain a neutral posture towards all nations that we would not easily be drawn into wars. i still hold this belief, but yet we have interfered and now are attacked by an organization viewing us as the great evil of the world. Now for our own prestige/safety sake we must crush this organization, and persue a more open friendship/nuetral stance with the world. I believed before 9-11 that all nations are sovereign and therefore responsible for their own internal affairs. I still hold to this belief. view post
Scel you are probably right. i would never want to go to prison with Cnaiur. view post
Sorry Krijates Iryssas I miss wrote that. No I do not think we had a neutral stance pre 9-11. We had a very interferring stance in the world and even more so now. Again forgive my lack of explaination. The men that formed the constitutional gavernment of this nation heavily encouraged a neutral stance to all nations and that is what I was thinking about but did not explain. view post
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Wow Hellscythe that is pretty close to home then for you. view post
Do not sell yourself short. I am sure you have intellectual aptitudes that other people lack. view post
That is very funny. 
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I agree on that our war in Iraq had no direct bearing on terrorism. Iraq has a different purpose toward destabalizing the Middle East. Yet we had to respond ruthlessly toward those that did attack us. If not then you are encouraging them to keep attacking you. view post
[quote:10cthqt1]they're from another board that i frequent..[/quote:10cthqt1] Alright, now for curiosity sake what forum is that ? view post
Wow that did not take long. I believe that our interference in the Middle East also helped to make us a target in their eyes. view post
What! I did not think there could possibly be any more evidence then what we have here. view post
The question is why do we interfer so much over there? Is it just for money and oil. I believe that is a large part of it. I do not believe that is the only reason. We have a policy of encouraging war and instability there and I believe it is due to fear. Fear of what? A united Middle East. Is that such a scary idea? To answer that I would have to say that many in power would say yes. view post
I did not think about that. let me ask did you write that post with or without your chainsaw in hand. view post
True freedom and democracy can only come from within and not from without. I believe we fear a united Middle Eastern military front and what they could do and would be willing to do. view post
Again that is true. We constantly are making up reasons for our wars that are not our true motives. Why? Because the truth is ugly and it leaves the general population without a warm and fuzzy feeling. To say guess what we want turmoil in the Middle East in order to prevent the rise of a caliphate and the possible expansionary wars that this caliphate may conduct. That would be so intangible to most Americans so we have to lie and say oh this is for terrorism and 9-11. When actually it is to prevent the rise of the Middle East. Yes that includes what actions we are taking against Iran too. view post
Well said Vercint. I could not have made that point. view post
Oh yeah I will to I will just google your name and.... alright that did not work. Well I guess I should start looking through the Heavy Metal message boards and then possibly PETA's message board. If that does not work then I am going to the chainsaw massacre forum. view post
The curiosity of this is killing me. It is irrational to care at all, yet not knowing and having no way to know makes me want to know all the more. view post
If Moe did not know any of the younger Dunyain with the ability then he could not have contacted them. Thus the reason Kellhus had not received the dream. view post
I have found the website that Gierra got her emoticons from. For a small fee I will be glad to tell everyone Or you can accidentally stumble over it like I did.
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We will see if you can. 
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You are just wierd.
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Yes a skin spy. They are hard to find and hard to kill. view post
It does appear that they try to remove certain elements of the world in order to better become a self moving soul. To them so what if they lie in order to achieve their gaol the less variables the better. view post
That leads to the next question. To the Dunyain what is truth. Is the truth freeing your soul? If that is the case then all other lies are justified by the ends. I do not state that to imply that the Dunyain need to justify anything. To them they need only take the shortest path. view post
No they are more like skin spies. 
Isn't it obvious they aren't human and they lack our depth in feelings and emotions.
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Well it could and it would have more feelings than a spammer in any case. view post
DA that is an interesting point. Pinky maybe smarter than the Brain. By the way welcome to the forum. view post
I believe that Scott gives us some hope through Akka. Akka fufilling a Seswatha like role gives me hope. Too I believe that many more people will become awakened due to Kellhus's work there. view post
Actually there are only two old names Aurang and Auxang. Forgive my spelling I do not have the books with me. The term old name is made in refence to the last of the Inchoroi. view post
I can not answer all your questions but my thought is that Seswatha's dream changed in order to warn Akka rather than deceive. Akka went through to dramatic experiences with Seswatha. One being the time he was captive to the Scarlet Spire and the other when Kellhus hypnotized him in order to talk to Seswatha. I believe both these experiences opened up a more direct link between Akka and Seswatha. view post
What is going on with all these school shootings and attempted school shooting? It just does not make sense to me where does all this come from. view post
Has anyone else noticed that the Mods disappear quickly not to be seen of again. My example is Entropic Existance. A very active boarder with lots of cool info then with some encouragement from me and some others he accepts the role of Mod. Now he is gone and no one has seen him for awhile. This leads me to ask what is happening to them? My thought is the spammers hunt them down and kill them. If that is what happened then I am very sorry for what has happened to EE. view post
White Lord why must you always be right. 
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Oh no you don't I do not want to die. I nominate Warrior Poet. Sorry WP it was either you or me. view post
Thanks Sovin for keeping the board up and running and cleaning up the spammers. view post
WP do not be too mad at me. My survival instincts were just over reacting. view post
I missed the part where Earwa had young earth creationist.
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I agree that these are ways to express yourself i.e drugs, sex, drinking, shooting and blowing something up. I will also state that there are times when drinking becomes drunk or even buzzed when it is no longer harmless. Three years of doing shore patrol in the bar district showed me that first hand. Alhana is right to say that the children that do these things need someone to listen to them and be there for them which should be their parents or guardian. As far as I can see there is no program or initiative that will effectively take the place of parents. view post
Well I did something needlessly dangerous last week. In the gym that I work out at there is a marine who also works out there. He saw me running on the tread mill and said something to the effect that he did not know sailors could run. To which I replied to him " do you know what the difference between a marine and a sand bag is?" He said "no". Then I said "sand bags are cheaper and can catch more bullets." A second after I said that I thought boy I could have died just then or at least been in a fight with an angry marine. That was both stupid and suicidal. view post
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Well I guess that is better than running with a chainsaw. view post
That being the case I still would not want to go to prison with Cnaiur, or anywhere else for that matter. view post
It's okay G we won't make fun of you. In fact I'll be your friend just put down the chainsaw and the AK47. view post
I frequent the asoif board mainly as a lurker but sometimes as a poster. That board is way more active than this one, but I like this board way more. By the way soon I will tell all what board Gierra is at and her user name. You may ask why do you wait? It is because I like trying to make people squirm.
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I agree automatic weapons are for cowards or people who just do not have a lot of time. I was picked on a lot in school but it was due to the fact that I mouthed off a lot and went to about 15 different schools. I still never wanted to shoot everyone. That may have had to do with the fact that my step-mom stayed at home and my dad was around quite a bit. I had no time to plot killing people and I had the holy living fear of God toward my dad. He was not mean but go ahead and do something he told you not to do and you would deeply regret it. So I never had some of the problems that others have had. This molester guy in PA he was very ill and I do not know that good parents or much else outside of institutionalization could have help him. view post
To Gierra: of course you care. You can not help but care
To Alhana: Ha Ha nerd.
Okay I am no better I nerd out all the time too.
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Yeah my dad took me hunting that gives perspective. Oh and lets not forget hours of manual labor thats a great way to lose your rage. view post
I agree hellscythe unless someone seeks help in those cases it is hard to help them or even predict what they are going to do. Peter is right it happens all the time in Africa and it is depressing. view post
I believe that there are only a few viable canidates which I hope won't win but probably will. I believe it will be John McCain for the Republicans and Hillary Clinton for the Democrats. Unless Al Gore or Barak Obama runs then Hillary is a shoe in. view post
Then I hereby name this the Lazerus post!
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There is no doubt in my mind that negligence in parenting has a lot to do with it. Also the prevailing mentality of hurray for me to hell with you is caused by the lack of community. I do not believe you can have a proper functioning community without a family structure to build it off of. When I say a family structure that is to say both parent are actively involved. view post
I get a military haircut every two weeks. So I guess I do not use my hair as a form of expression. view post
Yes Edge it is a great forum. view post
Edge you would make a great officer or politician. You are more than willing to risk the lives of those around you. view post
Well maybe they do need to let children sometimes solve their own problems. I do have a hard time just letting kids fight though. I teach youth group at church to kids off the street. They try to get into fights ever so often but I always stop them. If a child is scared than they can not really enjoy themselves and learn what they came to learn. On the other hand when I was in school I must have been in 25-30 fights. Looking back on it I would never recommend that to anyone. view post
On theis list I agree Hubbard is a horrible writter. David Eddings who is not on this list is a great writer when you are 12 and a horrible and offensive writer when you are 18 and up. Saving the best for last Terry Gookind is the most offensive. view post
Well I learned form Edge and Gierra that hair can be used as an extra storage compartment
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I am sure it is hard to wash out of your hair. Might I suggest next time not putting paint brushes that have paint on them in your hair. It's just a thought. view post
To not be moved by the darkness that comes before That is a great question and the answer to that always changes. Once I achieve a goal and am successful I am always off to the next goal. I will save what I truly see as being successful for another time because it would sound totally foreign to people.
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Oh yeah, Silly me. view post
Congratulations Gierra on your painting. Scilvenas my hair is the same way that is why I punish it by regular cuttings and keeping it short. view post
Okay so I copped out. Well I would like to have a wife and children. I also sincrerely hope the kids aren't like me when I was young . I would consider myself successful if my marriage worked and after 40 years we still loved each other and also if my children turn out to exceed me that would be great.
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Ummm EE he is a spammer. view post
Cool EE good luck with getting your masters.
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Yes I had confused myself on what an old name was. It does appear at least for now that the Inchoroi are the first amongst equals in the consult. view post
Mine were due to my big mouth and my inability to walk away. I was so stubborn back then. Oh wait I am still stubborn I just do not fight any more, of course I am 30 and you just do not do that at my age. view post
Not brushing your hair is a style I guess 
Pony tails do not count as a style but they are cool for pulling and are a great way to make fun of your sisters. I used to ask my sisters what's under neath a pony's tail. That always lead to them trying to hit me. You just ask a simple honest question and off they go with physical violence.
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Yes but neither one of you answered the question: what is underneath a pony's tail? view post
It does seem that these two Inchoroi are limited in their knowledge. Maybe there were societies amongst the Inchoroi that performed different functions. Hence a possible answer for forgotten knowledge. view post
True enough if the need is absolutely there I will not hold back. view post
oops! I am so dense. 
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I always got the feeling that cnauir saw himself in Proyas. What I mean is in respect to the way Moe took advantage of him heart and soul and how Kellhus is taking advantage of Proyas heart and soul. Cnauir could definately have intimate interests in Proyas too, of course I over looked that also. view post
Well I am fulfilled now without a wife and children. Yet for some strange reason I want to have a family but I would still have had a successful life without having a family. Happiness is so fleeting that I do not dwell on emotions or feelings. You to some degree have to tell yourself how to feel or you will be tossed around by the storms of life and have no control. view post
No WP I will always defer to a sorcerer of rank. Now to Edge it is not the place of a lowly subdidact to ask those types of questions. Do not make me remind you of your place again.
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Edge I like your sisters style already. I have five sister with three of them being older than me. It was the older ones that would attack me and the younger ones that would just fire back with their own insults. view post
Sadly enough Edge is right. Spam is a great toy to play with it reminds me of matches. view post
I believe seswatha perceives Kellhus's weakness and that he is a susceptible to the no-god's influence and the fact that Kellhus listens to the no-god. Those things make him a possible instrument of the no-god more so that an ally of the consult. view post
I am resurrecting an old thread I am an instrument technician in the civillian world and I do reserves for the Navy.
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If only you truly knew, but ignorance is bliss. I must go and take my medicine now. view post
Yes and life is good...at least until dad catches you with the leaves and the matches. view post
No my older sisters were bigger than me until mid high school. Right now I am much bigger than any of them so now they would revert to verbal assaults instead of physical assault. view post
Yes but he has the whole sense of communicating with God. In doing that I believe he is actually openning himself up to be a conduit for the No-god. That is why I mentioned a weakness. view post
I believe the Mandate Schoolmen have a saying we give up our souls to gain the world. They do seem to readily accept damnation. view post
Well at least they pay you. Who knows you may become a famous artist and never have to work for anyone but yourself again. view post
gierra you aren't suppose to tell a skin spy that you know who they are untill you are ready to capture them.
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Well you are a human girl. Now your rank on this board is subdidact. That means you are not allowed to speak untill spoken to. Do not trespass this rule again or you will be punished severly.
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Alhana your job description makes you sound like a mother and a wife. As you also stated a cousellor on the side. By the way yes the three hairless male monkeys can become productive members of society they just need time to adventure and learn. view post
Alhana as a peralogue you do not have the rank to form alliances. You must achieve the rank of auditor and have a sorcerer of rank bless your alliance if not said alliance is null and void. Now get back to your proper place in the board hierarchy. 
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True that and great job on the write up. It is way more creative than what I could do. view post
Yeah me and my assumptions. I will not do that again. Well are you married? Not to be to nosy it's not like I know who you are but now i am curious.
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Peralogue Alhana that is not appropriate for someone of your station to do. Next time you will receive a demirit (sp). view post
To me religion with out a personal relationship with God is worthless. Yet according to my beliefs which is based off of what I have read we can only have the relationship with God that we are intended to have through fellowship with other believers. view post
Mordecai I am in agreement with you. I think Cnauir I think saw Proyas as a son more than anything or at least in a mentor type fashion. view post
Oh no not a peralogue revolt Seriously go back to your room and wait for permission to come back out. Do not make me break out the peralogue-be-good stick.
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Gierra watch out for that whole disgruntled employee thing. I was a contract employee for 3 years yes it sucked, but now I have retirement and sick days. In other words stay patient and look for new work. Obviously you are very talented so there has to be better things out there for you. view post
Tell me if they are hard to get information out of. view post
That and other hair secrets from Gierra. view post
Moebius, Welcome to the board. If I might suggest introducing yourself to everyone in the introduction section. Look forward to hearing more from you later. view post
Well it is time to break out the peralogue-be-stick and liberally beat Hellscythe and Alhana about the shoulders. By the way next time you plan a revolt try to have more than two people. I will have mercy on you eventually but until then all you get is the lash. view post
Good point CC I think that is very true. view post
Scilvenas I am a former FC I worked on the CIWS technician. Right now in the reserves they have me as a CB electrician. view post
Well Alhana and Hellscythe it was nice knowing you sorry about the chainsaw. view post
Oh my God! Men caring about washing their hair! What has the world come to?
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It is hard for me to vote for any of these guys. I disagree with all of them on so many issues, but being realistic I believe that it will be one of them regardless of how I think or feel. view post
Hellscythe I hate to ruin it for you but your angry mob consists of you and Alhana....thats not very impressive. Do not feel bad though, because if you really had a mob I would be forced to use mustard gas.
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Alright but still they should not care enough to let anyone else know. It looks like I am going to start confiscating Man Cards again. Posting on a forum about hair care is grounds for dismissal from the man club. view post
WP don't you think that was a little harsh, but of course I trust your good judgement regardless. view post
I said nothing about not taking care of yourself. I take care of myself. Its just that you have to be incognito about it. That means do not post on a forum. view post
Incu I do not fully grasp it either. I guess with the cumulutive series of events i.e. the Mog Pharu talking to Kellhus and Akka's dreams I have serious doubts about Kellhus now. view post
This raises a good point how does the outside veiw sorcery and evil in Earwa. I believe the whole damnation toward sorcerers is man made as a control to check sorcerous powers. view post
Wow this has become like one of our really bad D&D games. You know the ones you played in grade school. What ever happened to order, fear and oppresion? These new people have no respect for the finer points in life. view post
This is a question directed more so at Sovin, Will or Alderon. Do you guys have any communications with Scott at all? If so is everthing going well for him? I was just wondering since we have not heard from him in about six months which is really rare. Scott is such a people oriented writer that it causes some concern to me. view post
He is not waisting his time being here. I know it is selfish but I just miss his postings. They are always interesting. view post
I only play D&D when no one is looking. When I was in the navy I was forever turned away from D&D to play Vampire the Masquerade and Shadow Run. Now I can never go back. Of course outside of the occasional video game I do not ever play role playing games. Life has caught up to me and I do not have time anymore. Plus I have my knuckle dragger image to maintain. view post
Yes enjoyed the dark ages a lot too. I had a really cool story teller that would set up elaborate social and political traps and just let us walk right into them. Of course that always ended in our deaths. Yeah, I got really good a t making up characters too. view post
We have several parties too. The problem is most American would rather vote to keep someone out of office than to vote someone into office. An example is conservatives voting for Bush just to keep Kerry out of office. All the conservatives know that Bush is not a conservative, but instead of voting for someone they agreed with they voted to keep Kerry out of office. Another example is Liberals voting for Kerry, who by the way is not a liberal he is a leftist, instead of voting for Nader who really is a liberal. Why again not out desire to see Kerry as president but rather a desire to try to get rid of Bush. The media does not help either. The only reports you will see from the major media on third party canidates is one of ridicule but mostly they kill third party candidates by ignoring them. view post
You never played D&D! I knew that there was something wrong with you. view post
Sorry about that my flunkie was merely suppose to abduct you and nothing else. I guess that's what I get for hiring a cheap stooge to do my dirty work.
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Yes it is true. I hate these spammers. view post
Yes it is Serwe's heart or atleast that seems to be Scott's intention. I also believe that Kellhus did that to gain more control over the people around him and therefore there is some deception to it. view post
Alpha there is anothere thread on this that may shed some light on that topic for you. By the way welcome to the board. view post
John McCain seems to be more of a pragmatist than anything to me. The problem for him is that conservatives will not go to the polls to vote for him. view post
Yes Hellscythe when I have dirty work that needs to be done I send flunkies to do my work. If you act up again then something may happen to you. For example a scratch and sniff sticker at the bottom of a pail of water and..... oh look Hellscythe drowned in a pail of water. Do not tempt fate it is not healthy. view post
That day and every other day means nothing to me. Well I should not say that because the day football season starts is very important to me. view post
Third parties need to focus on winning at the state level and at the level of a U.S. representative. When that happens they can build the power base needed to challenge the two entrenched parties. By the way it is high time to do so. Both of their corrupt ways stink up to heaven. view post
Ahhh the blind leading the blind. view post
This is a democracy. WP, Gierra and I democratically elected to continue subjegating the masses. We also voted to give ourselves pay raises and immunity from prosecution. I love democracy.
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Hey what's wrong with Foley? Those young interns need to be taken advantage of by a self-centered, greedy and uncaring sociopathic liar. Why where would this world be if the emotionally mature did not try to take advantage of those that are vulnerable and young? view post
You are right Alpha Crow he does do a good job at not giving away too much too fast. view post
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Hellscythe that's gross. You are not suppose to eat spam.
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I have an image of being kept prisoner in gierras house. Hmmm
Does this image involve chainsaws and a painful death?
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Yes the damnation part is merely a societal (sp) control to keep the sorcerers in check. If not they would dominate human society. view post
I do not think he was broken but rather he has grasped that there is an outside and I believe he wants a link to the outside. Why I do not know but it seems that at times in his povs that he is actually praying. view post
Yes the gnostic schools are way more powerful in TWP Akka fought 8 Scarlet Schoolman and killed two of them. Why because they use a non human tongue which allows for them to create greater contradictions between their words and their thoughts. I am sure Kellhus will find many more useful ways to use sorcery. I look for ward to seeing it in AE. view post
True enough. God does not exist because of religion but rather religion exists because of God. Of course we religious people always find away to foul it up. 
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I do not like him, but Al Gore may win if he runs this time around. If McCain runs the conservatives will stay home. The Republicans still need the conservatives. view post
True WP but if we whine impotantly to EE or as some call it praying. Maybe the great EE will spare our posts. view post
WP you are so easy to make happy. All Scott has to do is finish his two books. Now that can't be too hard.
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Well that killed a few of my predictions. White Lord is correct that Scott has not given us enough clues to piece a whole lot together. view post
That is very true. The question hinges around why does Kellhus think he is more? If it is due to outside influence then yes I fear the No-God controling him. view post
I like Twayleph's explaination better too. I also believe it to be more acurate. view post
The points that Vercint made are very good. I missed the short and brutal way he explained carrying Proyas out of the desert. That was a good catch Vercint. I also agree that Cnaiur saw more in Proyas than simply another man he was attracted to. He saw qualities that he respected in his own grudging way. I also wonder if just did not feel remorse for the way Kellhus was using Proyas. Since in many ways it was similar to the way Moe used him and took advantage of him. view post
That could be true but I think Kellhus's conditioning would bring him out of any delusion of simply acting out a part so long. We still see that Kellhus is past feelings. The example I site is Aurang tempting him. Yes a spell almost caused him to lose control of legion but without that spell Kellhus would totally be untouched by emotions. view post
So WP are you telling me that your admin is better than my mod? Thats fighting words there mister. Do you know how many of us follow the mod? You guys that follow the admin are so condescinding and arrogant, what kind of admin would have followers like that?
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It is not that I dislike John but rather that I know the conservatives will not vote for him. The Reagan republicans see his type as a cancer to the party. As I have heard others call John a republicrat. No John will not have the support he needs to defeat a democrtic challenger. The Americaqn people appear to be tired of the rpublican rule and seem to be looking for a change. I believe that will sway the moderates enough to vote democrat in this next presidential election. view post
I believe in AE we are going to see where Kehus tries to raise a legion of powerful sorcerers that he will train and of course completely control. view post
Gierra's house of pancakes and painful death. Wow what a marketing idea. view post
So in other words it was just like any other Friday? view post
I do not have the books right now but if you remember the day before the attack on Shimeh how he played everyone again. Then you see his observations on their physical filthiness and their general stupidity. He then seems to almost be repenting to his"father" for not truly enlightening them. If I remember that scene correctly then I think that he is talking to a higher source. view post
May the best pragmatist win. view post
On the other hand, you are right in that "we create history" in the sense that the present defines the past. We are constantly assigning meaning to our experiences, so the way we see the variables of history is determined today. Excellent point. There are many instances that i see in our world where that is extremely true. The history of the Anglo-Saxon invasion of England is assigned a different level of importance than the Vandal sack of Rome. view post
The laughter of the ignorant it is much like the braying of donkeys. Anyways I am not to sure your admin can hear you WP. I know my mod hears me though.
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Sorry and here I thought you were a party animal. Well Gierra you are full of surprises. view post
Come on WP we are just getting warmed up. The jokes will get better or you will lower your standards and find them funny any ways. view post
It will be interesting to see in the answers in AE. Scott is such a master of with holding conclusive information. view post
Yet for all your bluster I do not see this power that you speak of. view post
Gierra do not ever admit to that again. It makes you sound like your 40 or something. view post
You forget their power to delete posts and user accounts. view post
I saw a great movie this weekend called The Departed. It is a mob/cop movies but it really leaves a lot of the stereo typical plots behind. In some ways it was very Game of Thronesish. I will leave that last statement up to the imagination. If you can see it I think it is worth while. P.S. do not take your kids, the weak hearted or people that like happy endings to it. view post
Mahajanga Mordecai please forgive the question but are you saying that the evidence points toward Kellhus not being a follower of a higher power due to the lack of blind faith. True enough I have seen no evidence of blind faith on Kellhus's behalf. If I miss understood you then please expound. I found the point you made to be very interesting. view post
Yeah really laid back 20 something year old. Well I guess that is what smoking grass will do to a person.
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I believe that is happening already. view post
I think you will enjoy it WP. view post
I loved the way they were both slipping in and out of the propability trance during their encounter. I missed the part about Kellhus allowing Moe to be deceived. I do remember the part were he told his father If you refuse me anything I will kill you. I will go back back and reread that section again more carefully. view post
What we lost almost the entirety of three schools by the end of TTT. Kellhus will have much to rebuild. view post
Thanks EE way to back me up . Vigin Mary eh. Well send me your picture so I can put it up in my car and pray to it.
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I never meant to imply that you are lazy. So make sure you do not use that hatchet on me. If you have to use it on someone then I suggest WP. I think in one of his posts he stated that he wanted to be hacked to death. view post
Well it looks like the stage is being set for an Obama presidential bid. He is doing all the right things to build overwhelming support within the Democratic hierarcy. He also has the imagination of the American people. Why? because all people hear about him is how smart he is but not too many people know what exactly he believes or what direction he wants to see the country go in. Right now I predict Barak Obama in '08. view post
Gierra you are wierd but not in a creepy way but rather a cool way. view post
Obama is my U.S. senator for Illinois. I voted for the other guy rather than Obama. What bothers me about Obama is how everyone he competed against was defeated by the political machine or the media. I still do not know what exactly he believes because he can be very evasive. He also makes statements that could be taken either way. I do not know enough about him its just that the elite like him too much. view post
Yes you will it is just going to be a distorted kind
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Another point to add is that Kellhus will be teaching women how to perform sorcery. i believe that was eluded to by all that he told Esmi. Think of it the Mandate and the Scarlet Spires completely behind him along with the Thousand Temples which also has members that are the few. Then you throw in a heavy campaign to recruit throughout the Three Seas and whamo he has more that tripled the number of sorcerers. Then you throw in the untapped potential of the female sorcrers and boy the consult lookout cause they will be fighting legions of gnostic sorcerers. view post
EE I am shocked. I was convinced you were still a virgin. Never the less send me a virgin EE statue so i can pray to it and then you can intercede on my behalf to the admins.
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Yes one nice thing out of a string of insults. Do not get used to it. view post
Me too WP but yet most of them do. view post
Yes Gierra if you can find a virgin you can have one too. By the way clean up the dog poop please! This is a public forum and it needs to be kept clean. view post
WP in no way does Gierra equal me I have seen her photo and rest assured i have about 50lbs on her. Or did you mean she equals me in board rank? view post
No dead baby jokes are too much. It's kind of wierd but I actually like kids, much more than I do some adults. Since this is a topic about what happens to the Mods it would be acceptable to tell dead mod jokes. view post
I also do not think Akka performed any act that would severe his tie with Seswatha. He merely rejected Kellhus and his school which for all purposes maybe off track itself due to its coldness. view post
Well lets break it down poli means many and ticks are blood suckers. Yeah I think that sums it up. view post
It also say the dark tea time for the soul in the header. i hate tea so I am going for the dark humor thing. We were talking about the effects of rankings right. Well I have to mck and ridicule those below me in rank. Why? so I can feel better about myself. view post
That is so true Gierra does look better. By the way I am a good 120 posts ahead of Gierra and will soon be on another plane of board ranking. view post
That was great Gierra just watch out for the righteous mod hammer so it does not smite you. view post
These posts are not silly. They relate directly to the quality of people who read Scott's books. Or should I say people who are bored and waiting for the next book to come out and really have something to talk about. view post
Didact Gierra it is improper for you to compare your self to a S.O.R.. This is the philosophy section not the fantasy section please go to the right place before you post.
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No doubt he is but I believe he still has the dreams and will be the bane of the No-God and the consult. view post
None of us want to see these folks not fully clothed. Unless you are Foley surrounded by teenage boys. view post
Yes WP you are the ranking S.O.R and I must defer to you for now. Gierra I would never turn you into a toad I am thinking about doing what Akka did to the Scarlet Spires to you.
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Have fun then Gierra. view post
At that time Esmi was very pessimistic due to her life. Everyone walks out on her and therefore she expects rejection constantly. view post
So in other words you are not above fighting dirty. Then I will be forced to concede this battle to you before I suffer the the full wrath of Gierra. view post
No Gierra keep all the whores even the clean ones away from me. As I said earlier you win i surrender there is no need to continue with the threats. view post
That sent a shiver up my spine. No you do not have to use an odiani concussion cant on me. Harrol runs away. view post
Tell me about it. Someone so self serving that they want to take advantage of teenagers not caring whatsoever about the negative impact they are having on that child's life is odious and vile. view post
I am glad you had fun. Your description makes the fun you had sound more like a melee than a concert. view post
I am not a gal. It is just that I can reconize a battle that is not worth winning. So therefore a fight against whores, sorcerers and wannabe paladins is just too much for too little. So I must withdraw from this battlefield until the three of you have fought then I will come back to loot and kill the winner. Wait a minute why did I just give away my strategy. view post
Good thing I am not undead or demonic. Gierra is delusional and WP is just plain silly. I recommend you getting the ability to repel the delusional and the silly if not then I fear for your safety and sanity. view post
Yeah I love reading about the Roman invasion of England and the rebellion that the 14th legion crushed. You would think because I am English in ethintisity that I would cheer for the Celts but I always end up cheering for the Romans. view post
True that. I see we agree on at least one thing. Everyone in the cover up needs to be reprimanded also. view post
EE it is not my fault. WP and Gierra did it. They are the crazy ones. I mean look at how they call me a girl. There is nothing girlish about me. Another thing is look at Giera's compulsive snickers eating disorder. view post
Yeah and what she said is true. Yet that is why I wear nose plugs. No Philistine woman is going to tempt me with her perfumes. view post
Gierra why do you hate the Romans and the English? All they did was take what was theirs from other people. view post
In my reread of TTT at the end when Akka was coming to confront Kellhus I noticed something. That Akka is now awakened and no longer susceptible to the Duinyain. Okay no mystery there or any shokc but what I found shocking was the way he almost copied Cnaiur's way of veiwing the Inrithi. The first two guards that kneeled to him and saluted him as the Holy Tutor were spit on by him. We all know how much Cnaiur enjoys spitting with disgust. Then there is the fact that Akka is hardened now to the point that he has very few emotions left that are positive. I know it is not a revelation but rather something that struck me last night. view post
[quote:3bhj66ky]Thinks for a moment, then points hand at Gierra: Purify! :A beam of white light strikes Gierra in the head, clearing away her delusions and leaving her painfully aware of everything:[/quote:3bhj66ky] Next time Hellscythe hit her in the head with a brick that way you can insure that all the delusion is knocked out of her. Then make sure you go buy her a clue and give it to her immediately. Pfaw beams of light my foot that is like shining a flash light at a black hole. view post
No I guess you do not have to answer that. The Romans were still really cool tacticians and I love reading about their style of warfare. view post
Gutts that appears to be true to me too. By the way welcome to the board. If you do not mind go to the welcome section and introduce yourself. Tell us how you got the name Gutts it is very familar to me. view post
Thanks Gierra now I am all bio infectious. Hellscythe I told you to throw brick and give her a clue. Now look we are syphillis ridden out casts. view post
Alright, but remember the legionaries that Rome used during that time frame were from northern Italy or from Spain. The people from those areas were Celts which means most Roman soldiers of that day were Celts fighting as the Romans taught them to. The 14th legion that crushed the Celtic revolt in England were from Spain and therefore Celtic themselves. view post
Thats a great point I did not consider it that way. view post
What are you implying Mahajanga? Me thinks you are trying to trick me. view post
True they mainly served as auxillary i.e. arcers, calvary and light infantry. They also were not citizens where as the legions were citizens. view post
I do not know if anyone else has this problem but I can not read much fantasy anymore after reading the PON series. The only other fantasy writer I enjoy nowadays is G R R Martin. Is there anyone else out there plagued by the same problem? view post
WP I feel as though you are not on my side. I find the lack of your faith disturbing
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I believe the No-God lacks a certain amount of self awareness. To what degree I am not sure. He is certainly a force that disturbes the cycle of life. view post
WP hold off on that song I already gave up there is no need to keep attacking. i already have enough issues without diseases. view post
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Yeah the geekfest is disturbing. What also is disturbing is my constant surrendering I feel like I am French or from Eritrea. view post
I believe the next two books will igve you quite a perspective. Definately let your neck get better first. view post
I have read all the WOT series and for the first five books I thought wow this is good. Then I read Bakker followed by Martin and it has never been the same since. I can not read the D and D novels anymore they just lack something. I just used to love reading those novels too. view post
Yes Gierra helps me cull the herd. She has seperated the chaff from the wheat for me. WP unfortunately you are chaff and you have been blown away. oh well we can't all be wheat someone has to be chaff. view post
Wow very cool costumes. Try not to get the flu that would be bad. view post
Gierra the goddes of whores and diseases. She is funny in a tragic kind of a way. view post
Thats not true I know of your bad memory and the fact that you are easily distracted. When the chaff returns i will throw something bright and shinny on the floor and while the chaff is distracted I will make my getaway. view post
Do not forget that Kellhus stated that skin-soies lacked the depth of humans but rather they were a shadow of human depth. Something to that degree was stated. For reference it was statedin TTT at a point were Akka was talking to Kellhus about how hard it was to break skin spies. view post
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Great question. I do not believe Scott has revealed enough of Earwa for us to say one way or another, but i believe the human replicant would be souless. view post
Now that the Democrats have won the House and may end up winning the senate. I wonder how much will really change or if they will just maintain the status quo? view post
Sokar I meant both but of course the emphasis to me is on foriegn policy. view post
Kellhus owns Iyokus or soon will. Kellhus was part of Iyokus being raised. Some may say the books do not say that but yet tell me one major promotion that could happen in Kellhus's presence without him owning it. Kellhus will probably offer Iyokus the gnosis in order to futher shackle him. If not then Kellhus will simply kill him. view post
They have independant thoughts it is just that the consult controls over them are too great. To prove that they have independant thoughts just look at the second skin spy to be Sarcellus. Kellhus told him that he was betraying his masters earlier. Kellhus said that to confuse the skin spy, but the skin spy actually believed that one of his brothers could betray the consult. So the issue is controls that over come thought not that they have no thoughts. They are rather conditioned. view post
Fruitbat I believe you are correct. Akka is limping off to battle not running. view post
wow what a question. Well first the consult is not the Inchoroi per se. They are human sorcerers that have in a limited way rediscovered the tekne. The Inchoroi were a vast race. There were millions of them on their ship. So who is to say they all practiced the Tekne. Maybe they many different fields of specialization and the Tekne was just one of them. The two surviving Inchoroi may not have ever known a thing about the Tekne because of being in another field. view post
I kind of think just like fruitbat said after a certain level is attained they all think a like. view post
It is okay Mahajanga Mordecai just let go of the pain. I just hide the fact that read fantasy. If I had to deny the fact that read fantasy most people would believe me. It is hard being a closet fantasy fan. view post
No that was a great post no apologies needed. I find much of what was stated to be valid when considered with the political landscape that we face. view post
After rereading the WP I believe the haloes are perception and not reality. I cite the part where the skin spy took the image of Kellhus and interorgated Serwe. Serwe saw haloes on the hands that beat her. view post
Wow great explanation I really liked that Vercint. view post
Alhana considering all the others that are running John would be the most independant of the Republicans. view post
I see what you are saying fruitbat. I am still leary about letting the same government that bankrupted social security even touch universal health care. Right now I just want to give them a pet rock and see if they can competently take care of it. view post
Thank-you WP I do try some times. It is always a pleasure to post with you guys. view post
Yes I am having Scott Bakker withdrawls too.
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That is what I need to do group therapy. view post
Alright who opened the seventh seal and allowed the spammers to escape from hell?
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Actually I hope he heats things up with the hell fire all mods posses. view post
Hello Phil and welcome. I do not know a hard date for AE. I believe it will be 18 months from when TTT came out. By the way are you from the ASOIF board? Someone else will be along that knows more details than I and they can give you better info. view post
Alright well Nancy is trying to create cohession amongst the Democratic ranks but it appears that that is not working for her. Tell Charles Rangle to calm down a little, it is not time to start talking draft. Barak Obama seems to have an intelligent plan that differs from the president. We will see where that goes I think a withdrawl from Iraq maybe the best course in the near future. view post
I agree with you on that Phil it is difficult. For some reason I find it easy to reread Scott's books though. view post
Go get em Entropic. view post
Yeah I would have to go with Jesus winning. He was pretty tough. view post
Scott does a good job at that. i believe it is pretty clear that the no-god has too much influence over Kellhus as evidenced in Akka's last dream. view post
Congratulations Alhana. Your new found rank qualifies you to go fetch coffee for the S.O.R's it also allows for you to be able to loan me money that I will never payback. There are a few more more perks like, if I need a paper weight you will be the first thing I use and when thye grass needs to be mowed we will call Alhana. I just love auditors they are so useful. view post
Well I believe you once stated that you have three sons. You can use them to mow the lawn I guess. As far as the money goes you can always sell a few of your organs in order to give I mean loan me the money i need for the help poor Harrol defense fund. view post
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Just think if it looked too bad for him he always has 12 legions of angels for backup. I am sorry but neither Inri or Kellhus have 12 legions of angels for back up. view post
I always get such new insights when I reread that some times it is like looking at the story from another angle and it gives me a deeper appreciation. view post
That is so true it is annoying. view post
True it has. Inri and to some degree Kellhus have major Jesus like attributes. view post
WP do not tell everyone.
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true i remember a time when we did not have spam around here. view post
Excellent I will be able to silence those few easily.
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WP for president.... I mean for mod. view post
That is why I have flunkies to take all the risks. view post
Gierra and Alhana you both underestimate the power of stupidity. My flunkies are very stupid. view post
WP do you want me to PM them or do you want to? view post
Well it looks like America will start to scale down our troop involvement in Iraq by June of 2007 and be almost completely uninvolved in the fighting by 2008. To me I think this is a good thing because our involvement there just seems to be inflammitory. What does everyone else think? view post
I understand what you are saying, but enough people with power do not want us over there. Unless we want to make Iraq a territory of the United States then I am thinking we should leave. view post
Good points Sokar. Well through belief and not rational proof i believe the world will end some day. view post
Well as far as Jesus is concerned it was not sorcery. I speak as a Christian and not through logic or reason but rather faith. Jesus according to the Bible is God Almighty made flesh. Therefore having all power He is able to speak things into existance i.e. healings, walking on water and turning water into wine. view post
that is a great idea EE. The whole security code does seem to be some what effective. view post
Inspite of what WP says bowing and scraping are quite acceptable. I also accept bribes and flateries. view post
As far as I can tell Jesus was seen as being damned by the religious leaders rather than by the Romans. view post
I really do not believe unity and stability is America's goal in the Middle East. I believe we want war and death over there. I say that because if you look at that region every time they unite they invade their neighbors. It behooves America, Europe and Asia to have the muslim world killing each other rather than trying to conquer/convert the rest of the world. view post
True and no mater what it would not hurt to have another mod or two. view post
So that would be nothing Gierra? view post
Gierra you are unique in a very funny way. I do not mean funny haha either. I mean funny like wow the garbage smells funny. view post
Asd soon as I reread the books I will have a lot more to add to the conversation on the books. I really enjoy discussing them the most. view post
Well Darkness that is profound. We do not truely have free will just choices to make from within our enviroment. Most of the choices we make are due to our social programming. That is my belief it is incomplete in explanation but it is my observation. view post
Some of those names are cool and obscure enough to not attract ridicule. view post
Yes this new Bond was more like Jack Bower which is great. I hated the old Bonds but the new one is great. view post
Peter your post was probably not long enough, but well put an informative. Let us look at the sectarian violence if Iraq and Syria really try to help stabalize the region. If they are sincere then we need not fear too much violence in my opinion. I do worry for the Sunnis and the Assyrian Christians because they will suffer the most. view post
A few taps from a blob? Well I find it seriously insulting. No blob should even be able to bask in glow of my glorious presence let alone touch me. To all my flunkies out there I decree that you remove any all blobs from my presence and then flay hellscythe alive as an example. view post
Thats a pretty good idea. So about what age would you name your children Gierra. view post
That is true Dalmar and they make great fodder to tire out an army before sending in your good troops i.e. bashrags and dragons. view post
No I did not. What is the correct form to fill out? Stupid paperwork! view post
Alhana that is correct we are suppose watch and pray and fulfill the Great Commision. We are not suppose to run around talking bad about evry little thing. view post
Right I will fill those out and submit them in the morning. view post
I hate back to back posts but i just want everyone to know that i went through and cleaned up a lot of spam. EE, WP and I will figure out an effctive way to deal with it for the future. view post
Not that I have heard. view post
Yeah that will take him a very long time. I look forward to hearing from him. view post
Well not too much longer I will have my flunkies route it for me. Now where is Gierra when I need her? Good flunkies are hard to find... and so are bad ones. view post
Gierra I just need you to flay Hellscythe. No big deal really...oh, and make sure lots of people see you doing it that way the example sinks in. Alhana there is no need to run in fear I will only use my new found powers to serve my own personal interests. view post
You go girl we are counting on you. view post
Sounds good to me. view post
Measurements of time are difficult in the Bible. The prophesies of the Messiah refer to His coming as the day of the Lord, but Jesus was not here for a day but for 33 years. A lot of the time these things are mere references to time periods rather than strict 24 hour days or 20 year periods. view post
From now on no more modbeer floats Gierra. view post
Again I will only use my new found powers to futher my self interests which for P.C. sake I will call justice. view post
I think we should allow people to build up to that point. For example a Scarlet schoolman has a phalanx of Jarveh at his disposal. view post
I agree that way it is more enjoyable and realistic. view post
I see it as a way to help...myself. No really I am here to kill spam. view post
Gierra instead of saying you guys suck you should say excuse me sirs, but with all do respect you guys suck. oh, and also throw in a thanks for noticing my existance. That's how a lowly didact should address the mods.
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Gierra go ahead that would justify all the mean things I am going to do to you. view post
That does it Gierra you will feel the power of modom. view post
In TTT we see Kellhus kill a couple of sorcerers with his sword. He would teleport behind them and whack death would come swirling down. My understanding is that a skin ward would protect from that but appearantly not. Does anyone else have some light to shed on the matter. view post
There I brought it.
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Yeah WP is cute. I just want to hug him and squeez him and name him George. view post
anor277 and Mahajanga Mordecai you are both right. It was a detail that I had missed. Thanks for the heads up on it. view post
I am not. I promise you I look more like your neighbors bulldog than I do someone who is cute. Yes Gierra you are cute. Atleast when you are not cover in fake blood. view post
Fair enough Gierra. I just wanted you to witness the power of modness. That is without over doing it. view post
Look at it this way if you are cute as a zombie then you are more than cute when the make up comes off. view post
I see x-ray all the time at ASOIF. She regulates quite well considering the sheer volume that they have over there. view post
Xray there is no excuse for reading Goodkind. Flimsy excuse like kidnapping do not justify reading those books. view post
I am not an expert but I have always equated those fleeting thoughts of wanting to die with my desire to run. I want to run from frustration, shame, fear and the incomprehensible. Some times for a brief moment death seems like a good way to run, but it is not. Life is way more fulfilling when you stand and face things. Even if that means getting advice on how to deal with things which involves humility and admitting you do not have the answers to some of your life's needs. view post
Here I thought it was a long fall and a sudden stop that killed the cat.
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That is a great picture Gierra you were a beautiful child. Yeah Alhana I know what you mean about weight issues. I was 5'8" 220 for awhile. Yes I workedout five days a week but I ate more than any three people should. With much frustration and sacrifice I am down to 170 but it took a year and a half and tons of running. view post
Thanks Wert for the information. It would be great if Neuropath is made into a movie. I hope that it would set up the PON to be made into a movie. view post
Then you are ready to become my disciple and tell the world. view post
What is a military co-op? view post
Peter I agree with a lot of what you say but one point I believe needs to be added. But if we accept this interpretation, we find that our notion of nationhood relies upon shared history and culture and the notion of sharing history and culture relies upon the notion of nationhood. Rather, we imagine a community, an identity which we then impose on objects which we find in the world. We will never meet and come to know every other person in our nation, so we imagine that there is something held in common between us, this history, but the history itself is imagined (i.e. the ownership of it is). Like I said this appears to me to be true but in addition is protection. Nationhood means protection from in al ot of ways. True being a part of a nation does not mean you are protected totally but it does mean in some way you have protection. view post
So you are interested in doing a stint in the Canadian military? view post
I am 30. Alright new folks post your age. view post
True to what you say. I believe it is the perception of protection more than anything. Also I believe having common laws and some sort of domestic protection helps out. Why have a nation still? People need leaders. Leadership appears to be defined in a society by the rules/laws. I realize my post is not perfect but I speak in terms of perception rather than actual reality. view post
Gierra remember the devil is in the details. Do not be so detail oreinted. view post
Gierra do not get fat it really is no fun physically. Other people's opinion of you be damned carrying around too much weight just sucks physically. view post
Well that is fair enough. i just do not want people making my health mistake. Even though i know you will not. view post
I also thought he was speaking to the gods/God. It appeared he was trying to justify himself to some higher power. My only doubt about the No-God being the one he adresses is the fact that the No-God would not care. view post
That is a good perspective lucimay. By the way welcome back it has been a long time. view post
You're great Gierra. view post
Yeah, sorry, I didn't see this reply initially (sorry blind). I don't want to go on too much more, so I'll say that I can see why it might be the case that people need leaders and nations provide a firm basis for creating leaders, but I think that other systems might do it better. National leaders will follow the national interest and this will harm the interests of others. What I want is leadership which deals with individuals and with all rational beings. No ignoring the plight of Africa because they are poor, no hatred of the French because history tells us to and no "My country right or wrong". I t is hard to see some times that most of what we have is of our own human weaknesses i. e nations. Do we have to have them? No if we as people were perfect then no. We are not perfect so we need cumbersome things like the government and nations. view post
Wow that is very thin. Great metabolism but it will slow down most likely. My wife is 5'4" 120 and eats with wild abandon yet she does not gain a pound. It baffles me.
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Gierra is useful. She turns oxygen into carbon dioxide. view post
Same here I will be staying home and ejoying Chrstmas with family. view post
Thanks WP I try. view post
Gierra I am sure you are a great receptionist. That whole metal chick persona makes for a very welcoming receptionist I am sure.
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Well Gierra you can come work for the large corporation I work for. No I like you more than that. Good luck on finding a better job. I hoped the need for your art work would become more consistent. Well some day it will and I will claim to know you. view post
Randal the rapture is controversial due to the fact that many people who claim to be Christians pick and choose what scripture verses they will follow and ignore others. That of course is the case for a lot of other topics too. view post
Yes I did and I believe that seswatha has choosen Akka to carry on the war. I do not have much more to add other than the dream in the first book in one dream instead of seeing sewatha's face he saw his own and noted that it was different. view post
EE is right it was stated in the books that the consult could not duplicate the skin-spy with a soul. view post
Good luck on the new job. view post
Madness that was great I look forward to AE so that we can truly get to the bottom of this. view post
I am sure someone else with a more complete answer will come along and explain it better. It appears to be a matter of controling men's convictions rather than their desires. Maybe you could call conviction a form of desire. I believe the TTT was the major step to becoming the Inrithis' prophet. view post
Due to the debate on the concept of nations a thought came to my mind. What are the sovereign rights of a nation? When are other peoples or nations allowed to interfer with their affairs? Or as some may say there are no nations just the world and the citizens of the world. I am looking to see whar people have to say. view post
Yes but I can choose what thoughts dominate. I never just have one thought come to mind on an issue but rather I have many. Then I choose which one to follow. view post
I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas. I always enjoy the holidays. All except for the one in which I was in boot camp. view post
Wow That a lot of what you say could be true. I never saw it that way or even thought of it. I will have to look at it futher a we will have to wait for more books to come out to know for certain, but great catch.
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Too true Corvis too true. view post
Oh and hate you I do. view post
Thanks Aldarion that would be great. Any information for us demanding fans is great. view post
Let me guess???? You party too hard and sleep too little. view post
Give me your work number and I will post it and have tons of people call you. view post
My post will say guys are you lonely then call this bored receptionist she would love to talk for hours. view post
Come on Gierra you know that you like talking to complete strangers. view post
Try Erickson too. view post
Well that made me feel better. I use derangement to escape stress. view post
I resolve to go back to school to change my profession. view post
Thanks for the warning I will not waste any time on it. view post
[quote:2lsb41uy]Do you mean Erickson or Erikson? (I ask because I don't see Steve Erickson mentioned anywhere near as often as Steven Erikson.) [/quote:2lsb41uy] Spelling error on my part. Thanks for catching it. view post
I suggest G R R Martin also. view post
Well Sea your point is very clear to me. It would make more sense that the dreams would forge a schoolman during hard ordeals rather than Seswatha chosing just one man to carry out the war. That way during the second apocalypse there will be 60-70 Seswathas rather than just one. view post
I enjoyed your post a lot. I will need to read up on it more. The erratics are of great interest to me. The questions I ask is why are some erratics and others aren't? view post
Soul I think you are on to something here. He did shape reality through belief i.e. sorcerers no longer being damned. view post
You are right he still has much to learn. Akka had not taught him everything but certainly enough to stay alive. Now the Kellhus we see in AE will have mastered and expanded upon the gnosis. view post
In the appendances there was a non-man that broke the neck of the most powerful dragon. view post
I agree I tell people of it whereever I post at. view post
I bought Iron Men and Saints on ebay. The reason I bought it was Scott's recommendation and I really enjoyed it thoroughly. It was great writing. view post
That is what I am here for... kind of I think. view post
I resolve to change Hellscythe and Gierra's title to harrol's lackey. view post
Well about religion. The Middle East and Europe warred long before Christianity. Examples Rome and Carthage, Rome and Parthia, Rome and Egypt. How about the wars betweem Greece and Persia. The Hun invasions and the Mongol invasions. Persia's invasion of India, the Ottoman conquests which were all over the world except the New World. Religion is normally useed to justify a war but it normally does not cause a war. view post
There is little debate as to the power of the Church in the Middle Ages. It was the premier power of European society. My cynical view of war tells me gain is always the true motivator. As Scott likes to point out when wars get hard religion gives the conviction to those fighting to continue. view post
It has long been a dream of mine and I am very sadistic . view post
Me too Alhana that is why I go to the gym and workout. The physical exertion helps to counter act the winter blues. view post
I recommend G R R Martin for you Avatar. His ASOIF series is great. The first book is called A Game of Thrones. If you have already read that series then I do not know what to recommend. view post
Your statements on Esmi are correct even though her out come in AE is up for debate. Yet for all of Akka and Cnauir's resistence Kellhus still found ways to make tools of them. True he could not posses them but he did manipulate them. view post
The perceptions of Soul and Avatar seem to both be correct to me. Kellhus and the people are falling for the delusion. view post
I agree nothing I have ever read compared to "The Pit and the Pendulum" it drew me in and showed me a world I did not know existed. I was 14 when i first read "The Pit and the Pendulum" . view post
@Sokar thanks for the totally grim veiw . Alright what you said is right unless you believe in the supernatural like I do, but then again that is a whole new topic.
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Not really at this time. Atleast I do not know of any. view post
If that is true than things will be ugly in AE. Of course Scott is ambiguous enough to keep us guessing and never knowing until he choses to reveal it. view post
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I tend to agree with Akka going to a non-man stronghold for awhile. Yet one thought is in one of his writitngs he states fear of being hunted for what he is writing. This implies to me a human audience with means for Kellhus to persecute him. I am open to have of miss read this but it appears to imply a return to humanity. view post
I read about that yesterday and I think it is awesome. Even though I do not believe Martin can finish by 2011. view post
Peter feel free to elaborate. I would like to read more of what you have to say on the matter. I do not quite understand the distinction between finding meaning in reason rather than facts of the world. I may misunderstand you but I thought the facts of the world we know come from reason. view post
Thanks Lord Null I will give it a try. view post
I like Bakker's ability to write realistic characters to be most enjoyable. I love the characters and what they do. Conphas, Cnaiur and Proyas are great and deep. That is just to name a few. view post
No Sokar I too look for the answer to that. All I can think of is we do have an awarness that goes beyond reason and physical sense. view post
Well because this is a philosophy thread I feel that adding my thought on this to be appropriate. We have a soul and a spirit that makes us forever ask and question and ponder why we are here. I guess one could say no but rather it is our brains that are more developed than an animal's that makes us question. That though is just as valid as my point but yet I choose to disagree and say it is our soul that questions and our brain that seeks. view post
I am wondering about the importance of Iraq to the rest of the Muslim world. Specifically to the fighting between Shites and Sunnis. It would be great to here the insights that many have on this subject. view post
Kellhus vs Drizzt? Well as Drizzt shows off his fancy sword work Kellhus would show off his inards. Drizzt as a character would not stand a chance. view post
That is a good point you raise about Serwe. I also think they used that form to remind him that he is Scylvendi still. Why? because she is his proof that he is still one of the people. view post
No not unappealing but I did have to slow down to appreciate it. view post
I believe the philosophy will be vital to Bakker's conclusion. This whole story appears to be making several points on life. Cnaiur, Proyas, Conphas, Akka, the consult and Kellhus represent different aspects of life to me. Or should I say peoples' approach to life. view post
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Well to reply A. I do not have an answer. B. I do not have enough information yet, either that or I do not understand what Scott is saying. C.No it is a different boy the firsy one is inrithy the second is most likely Fanim. Too answer the rest we do not know enough yet. D. Great speculation but again not enough info. view post
True Razor we do need that. So post away I look forward to reading it. view post
have to disagree with this. His escape from the Scarlet Spires almost explicitly shows Seswatha (or rather, Seswatha-meme or Seswatha-within) taking control of his body and kicking tail. Then there's the part where Xinemus is being tortured in front of him and Seswatha-within is all "I know him not." That is what makes me think Seswatha is more than just memories. view post
Great the thought of that will forever scar me. Thanks! view post
Wel I am a little embarassed to say it was the Hobbit when I was 13 years old. view post
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It appears that Kellhus believes in some sort of a divinity and he believes he is a tool of sorts to that divinity. I do not believe Kellhus believes he is divine. If he did then why make make an excuse to the world for not enlightening the men of the tusk to the truth? view post
I agree with you. There are still some unknowns but what you stated is similar to my thoughts. view post
Foiled-Blue October. view post
Mark Anthony's Heroes Stephen Dando-Collins. It is a great book about the Third Gallic Legion's history. view post
True, I believe he is trying to thwart the apocalypse. Hebelieves the No-God is returning just by what the skin spies and Aurang has told him let alone from what Akka told him. view post
I have found Stephen's other books to be real good. i do not know where the problem is but I would like to hear it just for info sake. view post
The accuracy issue bothers me. I hate being misinformed. Ifg you would please direct me to these critics to see what they saying. view post
Do not worry WP. That sounds right. He substitutes Roman titles for modern titles. I was worried that i was reading inaccurate history. If i am not then I will just enjoy this good book that I have. view post
+In addition, both are captured after a battle; the fall of Tryse results in Sessa's capture, while Akka is captured fighting in the library. Sessa is tortured to find out where the heron spear is. Akka is tortured about the Gnosis and about Kellhus. Neither spill the beans. I agree with everything you stated with a couple exceptions. The first is him being tortured by the Scarlet Spires. It was only for the gnosis and not for Kellhus. Akka is like 45 or 47 if i remember correctly. Truely you made the points better than I could and I do agree with you. view post
Alright here is how it works. Commoner 0 Candidate 10 Peralogue 35 Auditor 80 Subdidact 150 Didact 250 Sorcerer-of-Rank 400 Quorum Member 600 The numbers represent the number of posts needed. view post
I love Pink Floyd I think their music is briliant. view post
I believe that Akka sees the Mandate as persuing the war in a overly cold manner. Was Seswatha as cold as the present Mandate? I do not believe so. Where was Seswatha as Tryse fell? He was putting his neck on the block and earning the title Chigra. I do not see enough evidence to think that Akka renounced Sewatha. view post
Tool is great I love their sound and i find them to be very provoking i.e. Vicarious. view post
Good luck with your hunting. I look forward to yours and Anors input. view post
Well I do like Pour Some Sugar On Me, but I am not a big fan of theirs. I like Blue October, 3 Days Grace, Ten Years and Chevelle. view post
That was Akka's last dream before renouncing his school and his prophet. view post
No we do not give out gold stars. We only give insults. view post
Well I believe music moves the mood and emotion. If you consider your soul to be the core of your deepest feelings then yes music moves the soul. view post
Curethan I am outraged that you would compare Bakker to Eddings. On March 16th the one year from Bakker's last post here I will burn you as a heretic. As I have always said heretics are so flammable. Madness you maybe right Akka may not be the only one to mirror Seswatha. I believe Seswatha's intent was to have many that mirrored him. The reason being to have a force that would be able to combat the Consult toe to toe. view post
Trust me you are most flammable. All heretics are. Unless Sovin or Will come along and say differently in my judgement you would be the one flamming .
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Well it is the morning of the 16th and in honor of the one year anniversary since Scott last posted I will burn a heretic. Oh look I found Curethan and he is picking up brite shinny objects off the ground and putting them into his mouth. Wow he really is an Eddings fan. We will just put a trail of pennies on the ground to lead him to the burn site..... Ah Ha he is follwing the trail! Perfect all I need to do is light a match and let the fun begin Phoossh...... The thing about heretics is that they do not burn for long.
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foiled again! I will have my revenge Curethan.
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Gierra I have a great job for you. You will go to the Korean DMZ and walk around looking for land mines. I hope you have fun in your new rewarding career. view post
I could not agree more Buckethead. In fact that almost to the "t" is why I like Bakker. view post
There is no conclusive evidence to there not being a female skin spy but I believe they do not exist. The skin spy mind set seems to be almost male in essence, meaning their desire to rape the world. There is no quote to support that it is just the feeling that the skin spies give me. Of course when I say male I mean that in a very deranged sense. view post
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I wonder what effect the possession of Esmi will have on her children. Remember how she threatened a soldier with flaying and then had to overcome strong urges to see it happen. This I believe came from her possession from Aurang. What effect would that have on her kids? view post
Some more points. Cnauir did much to hurt Conphas's reputation. He spread rumors amongest the ranks of Conphas crying at night. On two seperate occasions he beat Conphas one publicly the other privately but everyone knew what he did. He was also raped by Cnauir. The Nansur like the Romans would follow any amount of deprivations with the exception of weakness. Cnauir made Conphas look weak. Along with the points that Jamara made led to his demise. Remeber Conpas's last thoughts about his grandmother telling him he was always being measure and if his value ever dropped too low he was done for? Well his value dropped to low so he had no chance to survive Saubon's attack. view post
This may sound funny or like a compromise but here is what I believe. I believe the Bible therefore biblical creation. Yet creation in the Bible is very vague. Another point to note is that many times a day is a measure of time not an actual 24 hour day. The physical proof for evolution seems overwhelming, not perfect but overwhelming. I can not prove I.D. in fact it in my opinion will never be proven. In my belief God set up a eco system that could run itself. Now I can not prove that yet i believe it. God's main concern is not the physical but rather Man's heart, soul and spirit. The body merely houses my soul view post
just finished re-reading this chapter... there is no compulsion (in the sense of this book or by it's normal definition) that wouldn't be considered more closely possesion. The inchoroi, controls her actions (her body), knows her thoughts, memories and controls her speech (mind). Esmi is there, but not nearly in the same sense as xinemas with the cants of compulsion. afterwards she isn't upset because she felt she had stated that she wasn't in love with him, rather it was because the inchoroi found it in her mind and kellhus agreed. how that's not demonic possesion is beyond me. also the synthese are shells meant to hold a mind and project one of the consult's soul (mind, voice and vision). if you are possesing a body with no soul or mind is that demonic possesion? I agree Buckethead. As I stated in anther thread look at her encounter with a soldier after her possession and you will see her inner corruption by contact with Aurang. view post
[quote:25q748m8]I didn't vote because my option "6#. That the devil created us all at 2:37 am this morning with our memories intact" was not present. Of all your options, which is the only one that is testable, is falsifiable; it's also the one with all the evidence supporting it. At any rate "random evolution" is quite properly a misnomer; evolution, the change in the frequency of alleles within populations over time, is demonstrably not random, it is governed by natural selection.[/quote:25q748m8]
I think you are right with this one.
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Sovin or Will can answer that question. I really do not know but they do look cool. view post
Anything written by Eddings. view post
It is rumored but as far as I know not confirmed that the Anasurimbor have non man blood in them. This would account for their exceptional genetics. view post
Thanks Twayleph. I remebered reading about it i just could not find it. view post
Francis S. Collins I do not know who this man is but my beliefs are similar to the one Jamara expressed that science and spirituality do not have to be duality. view post
I believe that Akka is described as a sorcerer in his mid-forties. That would put him in his mid-sixties in the Great Ordeal. Many a men have lived to great ages when they were driven by a great purpose. view post
I find Cnauir's POV's to be very funny especially when he is observing the Inrithi. Kellhus told a funny story about two bulls and a herd of cows. view post
The truth are knives and we are all his cut. view post
Well what an election we will have soon. For the republicans we have a bunch of moderates and for the democrats we have varing shades of opportunism. All I have to say is i am excitied about this election. view post
keep posting Lordnull and you will get there. By the way the Miami Dolphins are the best. view post
Thanks Sokar. Now my head hurts. We do resent those that know us too well, atleast at times we avoid them. Why? we feel judged and undone in those areas, but what if the person did not make you feel judged in any way but made you feel accepted on all levels? I believe we fear judgement of others and that is why being understood is scarier than being misunderstood. view post
More specifically they want to keep the outside from damning them. Sealing off the outside is just their way of doing that. view post
I agree Kellhus will change society to make it more effective. I believe he will incorporate women into the ranks of sorcerers. He will need all who can sing down death to do so. I believe he will slowly remove the slave system so that he can run a better war machine. view post
I agree with Professor Plum's idea. Is that not what the human soul asks? view post
lord fowl I would agree with you if this was a Forgotten Realms series or if it was written by some cheap author but that is not the case. Where as some of what you say may work that way most will not. I mean an orgy no way. view post
I am abased by Lord Fowl's power of irony and will never try to compete with him again. view post
Too late Lord Fowl master of irony you are forever branded.
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Incu duck you just opened up a can of worms. view post
You are not alone. It is a very personal and vulnerable moment that the king and Seswatha had. view post
No the hate is still strong. By the way can you throw us any info from Scott? Thanks Aldarion view post
Yes Jesus will forgive you and so will I. I just want to do evil things because you have already read Neuropath. view post
And who else would challenge a skin spy to take a knife to his heart? view post
Wow that was quite a wait. You have some patience, I bought mine on the release date. view post
No the next book will be based 20 years in the future. The name of it will be The Great Ordeal. view post
Well it could be but my money is still on Kellhus being the harbinger. view post
EE as educated as you are you were still able to put it in lay-man's terms. Good job. view post
As a Christian I do not believe God resides in the unknown. He is what He is whether or not man comprehends all of existance. Man's comprehension will never take away from God. view post
out of ignorance could someone tell me how the Torah is different than the Old Testament. Or atleast show me a link or a comparative book I could buy. view post
What is wrong with you Myshkin? Rape being wrong! How dare you. I am telling Cnauir. view post
EE you need to write a book for us laymen so we can sort of understand what is going on. The scientific world lacks for those that can break down theory in to common language. view post
Great EE I look forward to you publishing the book. view post
I like your excitement, but I think you over look a few things about Akka. First he will destroy the consult before he wages any other war. Does he hate Kellhus? Yes! Enough to burn the world? In the heat of the momeny yes, with time to think about it no. Remember he still has the dreams and he is still influenced by Seswatha. view post
Yes I would call that the answer. Ciphrang died before he could kill Akka. view post
We know in part that it is the ability to control the masses both in conviction and perception. view post
Martin does have a boring way at times. In AFFC he gives us a lot of details but they are in an almost dry manner. Over the whole I love Martin and would say he is my second favorite author right behid Bakker. view post
No hurry. I would like to read it when you are done so just let us know. view post
The media has done that for years now. Ignore a canidate and they will die. Watchout for Bloomberg it looks like he may run too. Both parties appear weak in their bids so some better known indys may through their hats in the ring. view post
NO not Wizards of the Coast. White Wolf would be so much better. view post
I know what you are talking about. It is where he stated that he could kiss whatever lios he so choose. view post
short version, hasn't humankind since the time of Pythagoras found beauty in order, perfection, proportion, symmetry? I would say that most people I have met would agree with that. view post
If I lived in Atlanta I would come for this. a Thunyeri head-swap. Alas I have not lived in Georgia for several years so you guys have fun. view post
Yes Bakker slipped up and revealed his identity on the board. He later expressed regret for so doing. view post
I believe the second quote is towards the end of TTT. I am sorry that I am of no more help than that. My books are at home and I am at work. view post
Well I hope he respondes to you but he may just be too busy to check in on this site. view post
I doubt a simple renunciation frees you from the dream. The reason being any Mandate schoolman under torture could simply renounce the Mandate and then spill the beans. No Seswatha does not simply want to guard the Gnosis. If not he would of needed to destoy the Meggangaca(sp) (I do not have my books right now so my spelling is off) and all nonmen quay. They too know the gnosis. view post
Great point Curethan but in TTT Moenghus explains that all Dunyain experience the vestiges of feeling. Kellhus all along felt the vestiges of feelings but did not recognize them as such. That is why he has become partially deranged like his father told him he was. I think Kellhus truly believes he is the instrument of the God but if he really is remains to be seen. view post
Wow Curethan that was a great point. view post
Cohen I think that anything is possible, but I believe by some of the writings that we have seen from the future Akka. He is far to angry and hateful to be a chanv addict. view post
Are you saying that I could defeat the No-god with a stick?
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Actually Moenghus tried to stop the attack on the Scarlet Spires, but they did not listen to him. So he used that to his later advantage. view post
No but they could disguise themselves. Remeber how Kellhus set up that skin spy. Akka cast a glamour on a soldier so that he looked like Akka. I believe the Cishuarim could just do the same. view post
Or a man who has no reference point in life outside of hate. view post
Callan I agree. Insane? No deeply hurt and single minded? Yes. Plus a few more things that have been mentioned earlier. view post
Most definately. Scott gives Frank's infuences their credit. view post
That was an interesting post. The INRI part has been discussed before but the part on Conphas has not been mentioned as far as I can remember. view post
Enkidu, That was a great post. I am not a fan of Che by any extent nor do I really hate him. I do not know enough to do either. Your perspective or should I rather say the picture you painted makes me look at the area and politics differently. view post
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A skin spy could never duplicate Cnaiur. view post
I believe that the Aurang refers to the no-god's coming as a summoning not a creating. Sure they made the shell protwcting Mog but they did not create him as I understand it. view post
Wert thanks for the news. I hope it is true. view post
In another thread Scott stated that he base the Scylvendi off of the Scythians and the Sarmatians not the Mongols. view post
Actually at the beginning of the first book I believe it states he has 18 sons and who knows how many daughters and as many wives as some rulers of old. view post
True but why did he kill his father? In his pov he fore saw his father siding with the no-god and the consult. That leads me to believe he still considers himself the enemy of the consult and the no-god. view post
By the way I am not disputing Cnaiur's homosexuality I am merely stating that his child with Serwe was one of many children with many wives. That is not a dispute of his orentation but rather to point out what he has done. view post
I have read that quote many times but it does not mean he becomes a chanv addict. Bristle does not mean grow, sharpen or increase. It means to be offended in this context. Yes he has hardened his heart and intellectually he is deeply offended by Kellhus's ability to play him like a child. view post
Darn them. I may just have to order the book from England. view post
If you want to have a debate on law and religious influence please start another thread. view post
Just a few more posts and you will make stooge-of-rank. view post
Another idea was that the no-god is merely the sum of trapped human souls. The person who posted the idea says it much better than I but I believe it to be quite possible. view post
Anor I agree with that. view post
Moe being gay??? I do not think so he is neither straight or gay but Dunyain. view post
It was just to piss you off. No I believe God has a plan but it sure is frustrating some times. view post
I have a special rank for you Curethan but I think Sovin may not approve of that kind of language on the forum but some day with a lot of hard work you will become a janitor-of-rank or would you rather be whipping boy-of-rank? view post
Sorry Curethan I just so look forward to arguing with you that I over looked any chance of you being comical. view post
I do not really fanatisize about rank but rather i like giving out crazy titles to people. Just ask the lackeys that work for me and the ogres that I answer to. view post
I believe Kellhus would cause an accident to happen to him if he gets in the way. Kellhus will see the benefit in killing people instead of leaving them to betray him. view post
Of course, it might well all be a conspiracy between God and Harrol to really get up Curethan's nostrils
The voice tells me to do it.
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True enough Jamara when one has more power they can impose at will it seems. I heard a quote one time to the effect that large nations are pimps and small nations are their whores. view post
Very good points but I have to agree Moe dead but yes there are some interesting facts that you pointed out as to Kellhus's possible miscalculations. view post
Scott has stated before that the Scylendi are based off of the Scythians/Sarmatians more so that the Mongols. view post
Enkidu that is a great point about the English kings in the crusades. I often wondered why they would take a break from their continous skirmishes with the French king to invade such a distant land. view post
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In spite of Madness's reveiw which I do respect. I will probably rent the season just to see what happens. view post
I second C.S. Lewis to younger readers. view post
I think I am more in the situational morality category. i do not believe fighting is right but if i feel endangered then I will come swinging. Morals or my skin? Such a tough choice. view post
Do not feel bad Shell a lot of us were fooled for awhile. view post
To Magewinds question I would say no. I never thought of Cnaiur that way. In fact the closest thing to Cnaiur I can think of would be Guts off of Berserk but even then I would say Cnaiur is more fierce. view post
There were some good points you made in the above statement. The one thing I see though is that Cnaiur sexualized the father/son role he had with Moe. I do not see him sexualizing Kellhus with the possible exception of the scene next to the sea when Kellhus was thinking of killing him. view post
Do not feel that you are late because you are not. All posts are open for discussion and in my opinion no thread is too old to re-open. view post
Well if I was in Wisconsin all authors would look good. Even Terry Goodkind is awesome compared to the Packers. view post
It made me very sad. He will be missed. view post
It is a very sad day to me. I feel sorrow for his family. view post
Actually you will. He made arrangements for the the last book to be written. view post
Sane people do not run round getting 'possessed', screaming at random folk to kill them and rooting holes in the ground That is what you think! view post
Thanks Jhunter now life's no fun or so my nerve bundles tell me. view post
jhunter I was only joking. As far as I can prove everyone's post is right and as far as I can prove everyone's post is wrong on this subject. view post
have to say, I really liked both Proyas and Saubon - both in terms of the way they were written, and the characters themselves, simultaneously admirable and pitiable. And while I would hate Conphas with a searing passion if I met him, he's a brilliantly drawn portrait of a sociopath. I could not agree more on those three. I also liked Martemus what a great secondary character. view post
When Cnaiur confronted Xunnurit on the Jiunati steepe and what he describes as his second soul comes out and the entirity of the other clan chiefs fall silent and turn away. It is a description that only Bakker could have come up with. view post
I think that there is a good chance that Kellhus had other children before he left. There is also a very good chance of most of the Dunyain having at least a little Anasurimbor in them especially after 2000 years of breeding. view post
Amen Brother! I have re-read the series five times and I still love it every time. view post
That is exactly what people are to the Dunyain. A means to an end. view post
You must remember that the Emperor is a cruel and petty man. Part of his plan came unraveled and this of course could only be explained by treason. Certainly the Emporer is too crafty to be undone by any other means, or so the Emporer thinks. Due to his cruelty someone would have suffered for the defeat that he took at the hands of Cnaiur. view post
why didn't the consult just wait out the death of humanity while the no god ensured all babies were still born? why fight at all? I really doubt that humanity with Seswatha would simply have sat there and waited for their deaths to come. Remeber Seswatha convinced the human powers that be to attack before the consult could summon the No-god in hopes of preventing his arrival. view post
Women do have the ability, but they can not join schools so they are killed as witches. view post
If I was a Packer fan then life would truly have no meaning. On the bright side Shell there are hospitals that specialize in treating people who are Packer fans. I heard that in some instances they can lead semi-normal lives. view post
I believe it was a Conphas P.O.V. where he stated that if two slaves farted at the same time that the emporer suspected treachery. view post
I can not say for a fact but I believe that they are wiped out. If not during the tweenty year gap between PON and AE Kellhus will have had them exterminated. view post
Shell I did not know Wisconsin had high schools
Angainawen yeah thanks for scaring me off with all your deep thinking.
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Sure Cohen I think the janitor position is available. view post
8. Harrass Harrol. New medical studies shows that this greatly reduces your life expectancy. I have been passing the time by waiting for the Green Bay Packers to crash and burn. view post
I always thought it was due to Xerius discovering its male organs and therefore it had little choice but to kill him. view post
They are brothers and the last of the Inchoroi. view post
I think as soon as they play the Cowboys again it will be over or on a freak chance they make it to the Superbowl then the Patriots will eat them. If they win by some act of God then I am moving to Canada. view post
Writer I can neither confirm nor deny your question. Shell if Green Bay loses then will you wear a Coboy's jersey and post a picture of it on this forum? view post
I have read TTT several times and I still do not have a firm grasp on what the TTT is. It appears to be away to control the conviction of the masses. view post
I just want to add that Warrior-Poet was sincere his letter to Mrs.Thatcher and is still ready to serve the cause. view post
Hard earned cash? Please hardly anyone in America has hard earned cash. Israfel has a great idea just try it on and snap a picture if they lose to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl. view post
I was tired when I posted that bit about the superbowl. Most likely the Cowboys and the Packers will meet again in the NFC championship game. view post
I agree Kellhus wants to unite mankind and destroy the consult. In tweenty years I wonder where his probability trances will lead him? view post
I feel his insanity and inner turmoil leads him to do many weird acts as all lines blur i.e. what he did to the ground and later an emotionless or should I say an uncaring and cold skin spy. view post
Aurang is the bird and the one who did Esmi at least in a quasi illusion form. Auxang was the one at the end of the TWP. view post
The mark they spoke of in the book was the mark of Seswatha not the mark of the onta. view post
Interesting question. Lets just work with the idea that there is a God. Is IT flawed? I think the first question to ask is do we possess the awareness to realize his flaws? Does the ant realize the flaws in man does he even have the means to do so? If there is a creator does It have flaws the answer is still to be determined. Is the universe flawed? As far as we can see and observe yes but in a 100 years we may realize what we saw as flaws were actually for the good. view post
True! If Cnaiur was the stereo typical gay guy there would be a lot of dead people in our world. view post
How else would they be able to subdue the defectives? view post
I believe it was the Inchori that came from a different star. There were two groups of humans the firsty were slaves to the non-men the second were the five tribes that would later invade the three seas. view post
anor is right it was Serwe's heart Kellhus was doing some trickery. Scott even said that section was worded in a confusing manner. view post
I agree with these parallels and there is a general consensus from most on this. Scott did say that the Scylvendi were mostly derived from the Sarmatians. view post
I wonder how well they would fare against disciplined ranks of heavy infantry like the Nansur have? view post
Yeah thanks for for giving me a headache Mandati
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I am writing this post to express my veiws of this president. In the year 2000 I voted for him because Al Gore seemed too out of touch to me (the whole talking tree impersonation that he does so well). During his first term my opinion of Bush changed drastically. I do not believe Bush is either conservative or christian but rather he uses those labels to garner support. Bush is a neo-con all in all and his whole dumb act is just that an act. He does reason and plot quite well as he took the shortest path on Iraq. Suddam was spending millions on the euro to devalue the worth of the dollar and his constant needling at the US government made the government look weak. As soon as Iraq was invade Lybia abandoned their nuclear program as did Iran in 2003. The US proved that while it may not be able to remake your country in its image it can destroy your military and then leave you vulnerable to your own internal enemies. In other words a manuver similar to Cnaiur making Conphas fear for his life and therefore think with his skin. I do not agree with Bush's international policy but I do see some merits to it. Back to my original point I see no evidence of Bush being a God fearing christian but rather a shrewed politian playing off of the convictions and beliefs of others. view post
I already told my wife that I will be completely useless the three days following the release. view post
I second Writes question but I am not an idiot the correct term for me would be fool. view post
You can trust me Mandati I do not even have a vested interests in oil.
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The one skin spy with a soul was an accident that the consult could not recreate. view post
Nerdanel is right. view post
No it means their faith has become perceived reality. view post
Nerdanel the nonmen who can use sorcery are called Quaya (sp) I believe, there fore I do not believe they all posses sorcery view post
To me the jury is still out on whether there is a God or not. I also do not believe man has the capacity to judge God or the universe, the planet or even ourselves in an absolute fashion. view post
I believe that there are some aethiest that follow evolution or any idea that they say disproves God as a religion. Yet many believe that evolution is a working model but I do not think they are devoted to it as a religion. It is a working model that still needs many pieces filled in but I must say the evidence is compelling. This comes from a former Y.E.C. view post
Dirk you sound a lot like Thomas Jefferson. My question is why would God allow His word to be so misused without consequences? view post
Dirk69er saying you think similar to Thomas Jefferson is a compliment from me. I love reading his thoughts on principle and life. I used to study the Bible everyday and I mean study with a Strong's concordance looking up the original words to understand their meaning. By no means am I an expert but I was a commisioned lay leader. God does promise unpleasant recompense for altering or misconstruing His Word. This used to literally make me tremble before I taught a study and I used to try and check carefully to make sure I taught nothing out of context and yet some how i managed to foul things up anyways. In my life I have ran across Christians that do not care that they have teaching contrary to the Bible. They merely say oh thats not what it means and then they stumble around some contrived explanation that does not even make sense to them so they can go on believing what their mom and dad taught them. Where is the revence for God in that? Further more where is God to help us see clearly. I prayed about issues for years and never gained an answer. This experience is why I posted the last statement. view post
Israfel could you please explain your post I am dense therefore I missed your point. view post
Heretic! You will burn
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Well then I hope to meet some soon. I could learn alot from people like that. I am not nice and therefore could you some help there. view post
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Please help me understand the rabbit example . Thanks
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Israfel, You are right atheism is a rude word in the US agnostic is much more fashionable. view post
That could be his need to quantify but I also thought it was primarily a philosophy to ensnare Akka. view post
Yes we are easily manipulated in today's time. Kellhus would not come as a religious leader but rather as an incredibly smart politician who was not truly seasoned but the masses would sing his praises any ways cough... cough... Obama... cough... I live in Illinois and Obama is my Senator but he has done nothing to deserve these rave reviews he receives but look smart and thoughtful. Yeah I think Kellhus would sweep to power using our arrogance in thinking we are so smart therefore we must elect the most intelligent looking person. view post
Yoda!? Do not forget that Kellhus has the gnosis now. view post
Bravo. That explains a lot to me. view post
I always thought Yoda was a little gulible and not all that great as a fighter. view post
Or do as the Sith and ooperate right in front of the little oblivious green guy. "Dark side hard to see." another brillant Yoda quote. view post
The esuccess of Obama makes me think that Kellhus would master events of this world eventually. What has Obama done in order to garner such support? Well he is so smart oh and he is African American so if he gets elected we will make history and prove to the rest of the world that we are not racist. Not that the rest of the world doesn't have its own racist problems . Back to Obama he has become a blank slate that everyone can write all their hopes and dreams on, but after four years we will see him differently. That is why i believe Kellhus could gain control he would come in looking benevolent, brilliant and strong. He would in a short time sweep the primaries all the while not he would asage the fears of his opponents. By the way the last election I voted for Ralph Nader not Bush.
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I believe in God because there is proof of the devil. My proof is musicians like Hall and Oates only the devil would make crap like that or Pink or even worse Earth, Wind and Fire. All conclusive proof that satan is real and active. view post
It was a joke Rogue. Lay off the caffine and relax a little. view post
Well if the council of sainted lemurs says their evil then lets break out the oil and wood. As far as proving the existence or absence of God. This seems to go nowhere. Sorry but people are just going to disagree about this one.
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The US does not want to waste money like they did in Vietnam. As far as the deployment and death of its soldiers well thats just a loss we can accept in their minds. Just to let you know my reserve unit is scheduled to deploy in 2009 to Iraq so I do not speak as a disinterested spectator. Politicians care about soldiers only as tools and they fear voter backlash due to long engagements. view post
Scott, Does not come here very often if at all. I recommend contacting the publisher to see if they could help you. view post
The followers of Fane will be a small sectin hiding. view post
I doubt those books will have a happy ending though
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That is a very deep question because you can go many ways with this. Abortion, assisted suicide, execution and self-defense come to mind on what you asked. I do not like abortion because their babies and instinctively I want to protect them. Serial killers and rapists are easier for me to want dead out of a sense of self preservation and a want to protect my family. view post
It took me a few times of reading through the PON series and reading posts on the forum to begin to understand the philosophy. view post
Thanks for sharing professor I am stoaked about this book now. view post
That is so true. i hope he never sacrifices quality for speed. view post
Thanks professor for keeping us informed.
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Aldarion you get a NP arc? I only thought I hated you but now I really do
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I know you do alot of reveiws and you do a great job. Yes the hate goes even further now. view post
Go to Dragonmount. com and you will see the information. The projected release time is fall of 2009. view post
I can not agree with that. He may end up as his instrument but he is not the no-god. view post
Gierra your not busy just easily distracted. Anyways yes I loved season one but season two felt a little rushed. view post
I find most of your thinking sound but I do not know about Kellhus and Achamain being reconcilled. In the exerps at the beginning of the chapters Akka writes of his continued hate anf fear of execution should he write too much detail. view post
Curethan what would we do without you? view post
I love the first season as i stated before. It felt a little more real caloused legionares a brilliant and cunning caeser. The second season had some strong elements of that but it missed the mark and I believe that is due to the season being rushed. view post
I do not know that the break down will be so simple in the parrallels. I say that simply because Scott has been hard for me to predict at times. view post
I am not new but this thread was deleted so I thought let's start it up again. I am a huge fan of Bakker I love the books and I think G R R Martin is great. As a mod here I try to keep the forum clean of spam and help people as they need it. Unless you are Curethan or Shell because I am here to destroy them. To the rest I am glad you are here. view post
Pansy . I think it will be very intense and graphic.
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Wow well put. It always bothered me that Kellhus would not question his own decisions with one exception his encounter with Aurang when he thinks that he should have killed Cnaiur. I guess that is him second guessing himself. view post
Welcome Tengrist it is great to have you here. view post
Gierra you are very disturbing! Keep that chainsaw and flail away from me. view post
http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036. Just watch the video some of it is drivel but it does have some good points to it. view post
I really do not care that Obama's names are all of muslim inspiration. What I care about is here is a man and his wife that do not have any real love or respect for the nation they are campaigning to lead. If McCain had made a comment like such as "a typical black person..." his political career would be over dead but Obama can make a calous statement "a typical white person..." and no one bats an eye. I do resent people who use racisism in any way like Obama and his preacher. I am not a McCain supporter as I see him as a R.I.N.O. but Obama's brand of racisism or tolerance of hatered can not be tolerated. A strong message needs to be sent to radicals and racisist of all stripes and that message is you are not wanted in the halls of our government. view post
Yes it is part of the spam filter. view post
That does it Gierra I am deleting you. Then you can complain that the man is keeping you down
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I like Raistlin but Kellhus would still find a way to use him much like he did Cnaiur. view post
Welcome to the forums it is great to have you here. Let us know when you publish and good luck. view post
I believe the being who could do one inutteral string and two utteral strings at the same time was a nonman king. view post
Welcome Ciro. By the way whats your real name and where do you work or go to school? Don't worry i will not tell all your friends.
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I watched the movie it was entertaining. view post
It is because of the dunyain heritage. All those years of selective breeding has as Ifex stated led to inbreeding and specialization. view post
All big religions seem to have suffered persecution at first and because of that they grew. I am sure some religions have been destroyed by opposition but a lot of them grew. view post
Hey I like clarity. In a supernatural sense no he is not a prophet but in the way of predicting and even altering the variables to bring about a prophecy then I would say yes. The prphecy with Saubon was just corespondence of cause. Yet Kellhus' words gave Saubon the belief and certainty he needed to order the suicide charge against the snake heads. Kellhus's word gave the spark that caused a firestorm of thought that led to the daring resolve needed to win the battle. view post
Wow that was well said. I processed the information differently than you. Every time I read the series it is like reading it new and I really enjoy it. view post
I must disagree! Go back and read Aurang possession of Esmi in TTT. Esmi still loves Akka but she respects Kellhus. People focus on Esmi being broken by Kellhus as Bakker being sexist but no one says that Proyas and Saubon being broken by kellhus as Bakker being overly critical of men. No one says that Cnaiur being used by Moenghus is sexist . Why not? I think people are too critical on this sexist issue. view post
I was a very bad mod posting a spoiler in this thread. I will need to edit it out.
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Thanks for the info Gierra but because as you admitted this is spam I will have to ban you now .
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Welcome back. P.M. Sovin about re-activating your account. view post
I am sure there will be an overveiw of the subduing but as a prophet sent by the god it should be a little easier than a secular conquest. view post
There is a sticking point that I see in regards to Cnaiur being gone for good. One of the last scenes where Aurang told the little boy a secret that not even death removes one from the plate. view post
Sorry that quote is from a different area my mistake. Please no one try to kill me for that. view post
Welcome Allachris It is great to have you. Watchout for spoilers in some of the threads. view post
I think most people will scorn the effort. I see it as a monument to a dying way of thinking. view post
Luciferi, I too feel a little unmotivated to vote for the president in this election. Yes McCain has a lot of special interest groups behind him but so does Obama. Obama did not shoot from the Illinois state senate to the US senate where by the way he voted present more that he voted yes or no on the issues without having powerful backers i.e. money. No McCain and Obama are just repackaged versions of more of the same. I will vote McCain this time around because better the devil you know then the devil you don't. view post
I believe we are over looking how Esmi cowed Elazerith (sp) the grand master of the Scarlet Spires? This is after her seduction by Kellhus. Another thing is that she is second to no one but Kellhus even Proyas defers to her. Her personality changes true but who has not after dealing with Kellhus for a prolonged period. I believe that Esmi is a lightning rod because she is one of three main female characters. Let us also look at Esmi's childhood her dad raped her and men in general found no use for her outside of sex. This causes a person to think their greatest asset is their sexuality. Her desire for Kellhus's manhood is not because she is seduced by it but rather she believes it is her way to keep a hold on the relationship. view post
Curethan I would have said the same thing if only I could write so well. Let us also not forget the changes Saubon went through. view post
Nice! You are very creative and it all looked good. The painting of the chained up lady is slightly disturbing in a curious way. view post
OBAMA: Said McCain's proposal to give people a tax credit in exchange for treating employers' health insurance contributions as taxable wages amounts to "what one hand giveth, the other hand taketh away." THE FACTS: Obama's suggestion that McCain's health care plan is a wash for families is misleading. McCain offers families a $5,000 tax credit to help them buy health insurance. The corresponding increase in taxable wages would result in a much smaller cost than the value of the tax credit, at least at first. Over time, the value of the tax credit may diminish as premiums rise. However, the Tax Policy Center estimates that McCain's plan would increase the federal deficit by $1.3 trillion over 10 years — mainly because it would lead to less tax revenue coming in, meaning it is a true tax break overall. ___ McCAIN: Said he would provide a $5,000 refundable tax credit for families to buy health insurance "rather than mandates or fines for small businesses as Sen. Obama's plan calls for." THE FACTS: Obama's health care plan does not impose mandates or fines on small business. He would provide small businesses with a refundable tax credit of up to 50 percent on health premiums paid on behalf of their employees. Also, large employers that do not offer meaningful coverage or contribute to the cost of coverage would be required to pay a percentage of payroll toward the costs of a public insurance plan. But small businesses would be exempt from that requirement. ___ OBAMA: "Actually I'm cutting more than I'm spending so that it will be a net spending cut." THE FACTS: The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama would increase spending by $425 billion over four years and reduce spending by $144 billion for a net increase in the deficit of $281 billion. Obama has said he'll cut pork-barrel programs and the costs of the war in Iraq to pay for his programs — as well as raise taxes on the wealthy — but the specifics of his new spending plans outweigh the few spending cuts he's identified. ___ McCAIN: Said one way out of the financial crisis is to "stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us." THE FACTS: Although he didn't spell it out, he was referring — as he has in the past — to purchases of oil from countries hostile to the U.S. The figure is inflated and misleading. The U.S. is not spending nearly that much on oil imports and roughly one-third of what it does spend goes to friendly countries such as Canada, Mexico and Britain. ___ OBAMA: Blamed some of the problem of terrorism in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region on Bush administration policy in Pakistan, saying "We can't coddle, as we did, a dictator, give him billions of dollars and then he's making peace treaties with the Taliban and militants." THE FACTS: Obama oversimplifies ex-President Pervez Musharraf's approach to making peace deals. In fact, the U.S.-backed Musharraf focused more heavily on military action, launching blistering attacks on the militants at times and negotiating peace deals with them at others. Obama also ignores the fact that Pakistan's newly elected civilian government, also U.S.-supported, is seeking the same kind of peace deals and has stepped back from heavy-handed tactics that were pursued by the Musharraf government. ___ McCAIN: Said Obama had voted for tax increases "94 times." THE FACTS: This inflated count, heard before, includes repetitive votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year. ___ OBAMA: "I believe this is a final verdict on the failed economic policies of the last eight years, strongly promoted by President Bush and supported by Sen. McCain, that essentially said that we should strip away regulations, consumer protections, let the market run wild, and prosperity would rain down on all of us." THE FACTS: McCain has indeed favored less regulation over the years but supported tighter rules and accountability on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years before the start of a financial crisis prompted in part by those giant mortgage underwriters. Obama was not a leader in that unsuccessful effort. Some of the current problems can be traced to legislation passed in 1999 that lifted many regulations over the financial industry. That deregulation was championed by then-Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, a McCain supporter, but also by President Clinton, who signed the legislation, and by former Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, now a top Obama economic adviser. ___ MCAIN: "Oil drilling offshore now is vital so we can bridge the gap between imported oil ... and it will reduce the price of a barrel of oil. ... We've got to drill offshore and do it now." THE FACTS: The government estimates that opening the Atlantic and Pacific coasts and eastern Gulf of Mexico to drilling "will not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030." Even then, it would only increase domestic oil production by 3 percent. ___ Associated Press writers Tom Raum view post
Why does she scare you and the rest of the world? view post
More election facts.
WASHINGTON - Facts went astray on tax cuts, negative campaign advertising and oil imports when Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain engaged Wednesday in their third and final presidential debate.
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Some examples:
OBAMA: "Every dollar that I've proposed, I've proposed an additional cut, so that it matches."
THE FACTS: The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that his programs would add $281 billion to the deficit at the end of his first term. The analysis includes Obama's proposals for saving money.
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McCAIN: "We have to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much."
THE FACTS: This is a reference to U.S. spending on oil imports. McCain has repeatedly made this claim. But the figure is highly inflated and misleading. According to government agencies that track energy imports, the United States spent $246 billion in 2007 for all imported crude oil, a majority of it coming from friendly nations including neighboring Canada and Mexico. An additional $82 billion was spent on imported refined petroleum products such as gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. A majority of the refined products come from refineries in such friendly countries as the Netherlands, Canada, the United Kingdom, Trinidad-Tobago and the Virgin Islands.
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OBAMA: "One hundred percent, John, of your ads — 100 percent of them — have been negative."
THE FACTS: The statement is mostly true when it comes to McCain's current commercial spots. But by saying McCain's ads "have been" 100 percent negative, Obama ventures into misleading territory. A recent study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project at the University of Wisconsin-Madison found that in the first week of October "nearly 100 percent" of McCain's ads were negative. The study also reported, however, that to date 73 percent of McCain's ads have been negative and that 61 percent of Obama's ads have been negative.
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McCAIN: "Sen. Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money in negative attack ads on me."
THE FACTS: Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money on ads, period — negative or otherwise. Obama is outspending McCain and the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 in presidential ads. At one point in August, 90 percent of the ads Obama was airing were against McCain. The study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project found that about 34 percent of Obama's ads are now negative.
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OBAMA: "I want to provide a tax cut for 95 percent of working Americans, 95 percent."
THE FACTS: Obama constantly says this. But the independent Tax Policy Center says his plan cuts taxes for 81.3 percent of all households in 2009.
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McCAIN: Said of Obama's running mate Sen. Joe Biden: "He had this cockamamie idea of dividing Iraq into three countries."
THE FACTS: Biden actually proposed dividing Iraq into three semiautonomous regions, not separate countries. He was a prime sponsor of a nonbinding Senate resolution that called for Iraq to have federal regions under the control of Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis in a power-sharing agreement similar to the one that ended the 1990s war in Bosnia.
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OBAMA: Said he would be "completely supportive" of late-term abortion restrictions "as long as there's an exception for the mother's health and life."
THE FACTS: Obama leaves himself a lot of latitude in this answer. A woman's "health" has been so broadly interpreted that it can include conditions, including psychological conditions, that are difficult to diagnose or prove. Anti-abortion advocates say that makes the ban meaningless, because it leaves too much subjective judgment in the equation.
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MCCAIN: "Sen. Obama, as a member of the Illinois state Senate, voted in the Judiciary Committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born in a failed abortion. He voted against that."
OBAMA: "If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true."
THE FACTS: As a state senator, Obama opposed three legislative efforts, in 2001, 2002 and 2003, to give legal protections to any aborted fetus that showed signs of life. The 2003 measure was virtually identical to a bill President Bush signed into law in 2002 — a bill that passed before Obama was in the U.S. Senate, but one that Obama said he would have supported. The state of Illinois already had a law to protect aborted fetuses born alive and considered able to survive. Among those opposed to the state effort was the Illinois State Medical Society, which argued that the bill would interfere with the doctor-patient relationship and expand civil liability for doctors. Critics said the proposed legislation would have undermined the landmark Supreme Court case on abortion, Roe v. Wade, in ways the federal law would not.
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McCAIN: "Senator Obama talks about voting for budgets. He voted twice for a budget resolution that increases the taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year."
THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding resolution and did not increase taxes. The resolution assumed that President Bush's tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000.
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OBAMA: "We can cut the average family's premium by $2,500 a year."
THE FACTS: If that sounds like a straight-ahead promise to lower health insurance premiums, it isn't. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
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MCCAIN: Warned a small business owner that he would be fined under Obama's health care plan if he did not provide health insurance for workers.
THE FACTS: Obama's health care plan does not impose mandates or fines on small business. He would provide small businesses with a refundable tax credit of up to 50 percent on health premiums paid on behalf of their employees. Large as well as medium-sized businesses that do not offer meaningful coverage or contribute to the cost of coverage would be required to pay a percentage of payroll toward the costs of a public insurance plan. But small businesses would be exempt from that requirement.
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McCAIN: "We can eliminate our dependence on foreign oil by building 45 nuclear power plants right away."
THE FACTS: For nuclear power to lower oil dependency would require a massive shift to electric or hybrid-electric cars, with nuclear power providing the electricity. No new U.S. nuclear reactor has been built since the 1970s. Although 15 utilities have filed applications to build 24 new reactors, none is expected to be built before 2015 at the earliest. Turmoil in the credit markets could force cancellation of some of the projects now planned, much less spur construction of 45 new reactors, as reactor costs have soared to about $9 billion apiece.
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Cnaiür wrote: Even God made the decision to create, and made the decision to pass on free will to his creations. Spare me your medieval fantasies. There is no God. Lets avoid personal attacks here. The discussion is great and I do not want to see it get bogged down. view post
I read Pat'sreveiw and it looks great. I will take a couple days off to read the book. view post
He received his copy through evil and coniving means! or the alternative is that he writes book reveiws and a good word from him can lead to more book sales.
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I second that Paul Giamatti view post
I would say yes and that Simas's job was to keep them running in circles over the infiltration and inform the consult as to any Mandate operations. view post
Curethan, There is only one way to find out. All you need to do is get into a sword fight with your boss and when you are killed, we will have our proof. view post
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I stole the saying for my signature from an old farmer turned electrician. He is a great guy and really nice but he has some very sarcastic sayings. view post
For those that have read The Judging Eye please feel free to post away. All I ask is that you mark it as a spoiler. Just the name of this thread should be warning enough to those who do not want to read any spoilers. view post
Who are you!? I do not believe we have ever met.
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People that use words that end in th. view post
I believe it sploded into salt. view post
I am seconding Ajd's pissed offness. view post
Where? I live near Gurnee and would love to find it. B&N say that they wont have it till the 19th and Borders sound like the question confuses them. view post
I am not positive about who the voice is but it fits the profile of the Consult. The voice trying to sound like Kel or his brother would be well within the machanations of the Consult. Esmi was marked by Aurang, I do not know how but at the end of TTT she is at time thinking thoughts that belong to Aurang or should I say murges rather than thoughts. view post
Well atleast I now know that I am not the only one to try and fail at this, but I thing I only lasted 20 minutes before I got bored and started watching T.V. view post
As I wrote in the previous post Kel's love of death and destruction seems to be more like a Inchoi love of death and suffering than anything we have seen from the gods (Yatwer)so far. I do not believe the Consult would use compulsion to control or should I say influence Kel's sick actions. What happened to Kel could be a thing of the Tekne rather than magic. This is just speculation so far we do not have enough info to draw a conclusion. view post
Could very wel have been. The vision she had of flaying that one knight alive who accosted he in the camp(TTT) seemed to show a trace that Aurang had left on her. The thought brought a sense of arousal to her. view post
Disturbingly enough I agree Most of the good discussions on AE are over at the asoif board. Here atleast we do not have the trolls popping up to say that they hate Bakker and can't get into the series. view post
I hope he starts posting updates here ever so often. Any points he would like to make would be nice too. view post
I see what you are saying AJD but I rarely censor anything but spam. As you and several others disagree with Triskele, as do I, but I will let this thread stand. If Sovin chooses to delete it then that is his choice and as the admin he is well within his rights to do so. view post
Lucky people. view post
I believe that Kellhus wants the Ordeal to win. He knows that their world is subjective to the beliefs and convictions of the inhabitants. That beiing stated the triumph of the Ordeal puts Kellhus one step closer to his goal of becoming a self moving soul by becoming a god and controling the Outside. The shortest path to achieving this is through the beliefs of the masses. view post
Welcome Karol! I look forward to reading your posts in the Judging Eye section. view post
Also Sarl had a nervous break down and received a weepers scar on his face from Iron Soul. I believe a slash to the face would cause the false face to shift a little. view post
I hope these lnks work. Thank Triskele for finding these. [url:2sg9fxwm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht5Pyeb8HPU[/url:2sg9fxwm] [url:2sg9fxwm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47G5onp-rOI[/url:2sg9fxwm] view post
Thorsten that was well stated. I think that Kellhus not only wars to defeat the Consult but also to control the outside. The normal Duinyain without The Thousandfold Thought would be left with only the option of closing off the outside but with the TTT he can shape and control the outside to a degree. I think that Yatwer senses that and is acting against Kellhus so that he can not gain that power. I may be off here but from what I can gather this appears be roughly the second war that Kellhus fights. view post
I thinks it is her interaction with Aurang that corrupted her womb. view post
Cnaiur's sister died because she had blond hair. The child of a slave. view post
It appears that Kellhus represents modernization. The effect of modernization on people seems to cause a lot of problems. Look around us today our intellectual knowledge has exceeded our ability to cope with the changes it brings. view post
I think it goes back to the prologue of TDTCB. Remember the priest saying that there is no crime without people. Conversely their is no sacrifice without witness of and by one that could be sacrificed. That is just my idea. view post
I like that, very funny view post