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The importance of being Kellhus posted 14 June 2005 in Author Q & AThe importance of being Kellhus by White Lord, Subdidact

I, too, have fallen under Kellhus's spell. I like watching him in action! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> He's described by most members as some sort of sociopath, but I can't help admiring him. Could it mean I'm a latent sociopath myself? <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> Let me know . . . perhaps I should really be concerned about my mental health . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Now Reading... posted 14 June 2005 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow Reading... by White Lord, Subdidact

Just finishing Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. view post


Nonmen who and what are they? posted 15 June 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNonmen who and what are they? by White Lord, Subdidact

Yes, the Inchoroi are space aliens. Golgotterath was built over the crash site of their spaceship. They arrived on Earwa several thousand years before Men crossed the Great Kayarsus. view post


The importance of being Kellhus posted 15 June 2005 in Author Q &amp; AThe importance of being Kellhus by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Entropic_existence&quot;:6bmx015r
Besides, my tastes can be warped enough at times that I worry about my mental health so I guess maybe I'll see ya in the psych ward WL![/quote:6bmx015r]

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Nonmen who and what are they? posted 15 June 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNonmen who and what are they? by White Lord, Subdidact

I don't have the books by me, but you should check TWP. I think something gets said at the meeting Achamian has with the Great Names in Caraskand. He says the Inchoroi are "the greatest terror ever to fall from the sky" or some such. Then also at the very end of the book, in the scene of Aengelas, the Inchoroi says that, aside from his brother, he was the last of those "who fell from the void".

Hope this helps. view post


Nonmen who and what are they? posted 15 June 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNonmen who and what are they? by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Aengales&quot;:3bszfg3c
One more question, why are the Inchoroi "raping" people a lot, like Sarcellus he thought once "to cut her head and f**k it" about Esmenet...[/quote:3bszfg3c]

Well, they get introduced in the books, (in one of those excerpts at the beginning of a chapter) as the "race of flesh and lovers".

They developed the Tekne (cloning/gene manipulation technology) to create "living sculptures", as a form of perverse art. The Sranc, Bashrag, Dragons are all results of the Tekne, weapons they used in their wars against the Nonmen. They use sexual instincts/hungers which are hardwired in their creations to direct their actions. The only way a skin-spy or a Sranc can get gratification is by obeying his masters, i.e. killing someone or torturing etc. view post


And now for something totally idiotic - BK v McDonalds posted 15 June 2005 in Off-Topic DiscussionAnd now for something totally idiotic - BK v McDonalds by White Lord, Subdidact

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Psukhe vs The Gnosis posted 16 June 2005 in Author Q &amp; APsukhe vs The Gnosis by White Lord, Subdidact

Well, the books say the Psukhe is "almost" as formidable as the Anagogis, so it's obviously not nearly as powerful as the Gnosis. view post


Nonmen who and what are they? posted 16 June 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNonmen who and what are they? by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Quinthane&quot;:jbsn7p2p
Quote: &quot;Da-krul&quot;:jbsn7p2p
Move over scott, White Lord is gunning for your job[/quote:jbsn7p2p]


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Fellow WhiteLordians,

After unearthing the lost (discarded?) transcripted posts from the PoN message board, I realized that there’s more to be learned about the W. Lord of Queries to whom we’ve offered up absolutly no allegiance and (test results allowing) will buy him some kidney beans.

I retraced my steps down the path that first led me to the lost post. It seems, however, that passwords have been changed and a firewall installed. (I’m not certain if this is due to a recent security breach or if R. Scott is experiencing dead-line induced paranoia and has had a cease and dissist order filed against WL. His personal diary makes no mention of it.) The study deepens. Always it deepens.

So, undeterred by these permutations,, I cast about for the shortest path with no security measures and decided to contact some of the people mentioned on the blah bla[size=75:jbsn7p2p]h bullshit blah balo[/size:jbsn7p2p][size=59:jbsn7p2p]ney blah bla...[/size:jbsn7p2p]




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Scott hasn't complained yet, and I'm sure you wouldn't like it if he did . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

Otherwise, if I get any more ribbing, I'll stop showering my vast knowledge on you undeserving philistines . . . <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> view post


Nonmen who and what are they? posted 16 June 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNonmen who and what are they? by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Aengales&quot;:274xf1av
So then, Mog-Pharau is just a alien super being ?[/quote:274xf1av]

I wouldn't say he's alien like the Inchoroi, more likely something they discovered on Earwa, and through Nonman sorcery . . .

Quote: &quot;Aengales&quot;:274xf1av
Has Scott confirmed the fact that the Inchoroi are aliens ? Or are we speculating ?[/quote:274xf1av]

Yes, he's confirmed it; but really, there's no other conclusion you can draw after you've read the stuff that's said of them in the books . . . view post


Favourite Sorcerous School? posted 16 June 2005 in Author Q &amp; AFavourite Sorcerous School? by White Lord, Subdidact

What, am I the only one who likes the Consult? <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Have you never thought of the advantages? Just wait until I set up a PR campaign, I assure you, you will look on the Consult Fathers with different eyes . . . <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> view post


Psukhe vs The Gnosis posted 16 June 2005 in Author Q &amp; APsukhe vs The Gnosis by White Lord, Subdidact

Yes, but you should remember that Achamian says how he destroyed two Cishaurim who attacked him in Shimeh, all the while not seeing anything. The Gnosis is simply too powerful, as things stand, for the Psukhe to overcome. Remember, if you have powerful wards, and know a sorcery that is stronger than the Anagogis, there is little a Cishaurim can do to you . . . view post


WoT posted 21 June 2005 in Off-Topic DiscussionWoT by White Lord, Subdidact

I'll go with Nr. 3 as well . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


What happens when your soul leaves your body? posted 21 June 2005 in Philosophy DiscussionWhat happens when your soul leaves your body? by White Lord, Subdidact

I thought it was 21 grams . . . <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post


question about achamian? posted 05 July 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by White Lord, Subdidact

I'm not sure we can still believe he means to kill his father. Actually it's doubtful if he intended to do it from the very beginning. Never take Kellhus at his word. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

And I also think Achamian will wind up teaching him the Gnosis. Although, if you check the scene between him and Kellhus, while he hangs from that tree in Caraskand, you may notice that Kellhus already seems to have some sort of sorcerous power, since they communicate by telepathy. view post


AMERICAN POLITICS... posted 07 July 2005 in Philosophy DiscussionAMERICAN POLITICS... by White Lord, Subdidact

Well, I have to say that this last post beats all as far as naivete' is concerned . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

If you think isolationism works, well try it! For a year maybe, and see how far you can go towards "solving" the problems you mention . . .

Also, as far as I'm concerned, Europe really could do without NATO, so if you can convince the US government to pull out (as far as I can see, it's more in the Americans' interest to still remain in Europe, than it is in Europe's interest to have them . . .), you'll have my support! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


What is the Thousand-Fold Thought? posted 07 July 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWhat is the Thousand-Fold Thought? by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Odin&quot;:3pwkmyso
Quote: &quot;Cynadar&quot;:3pwkmyso
Thread's been dead since november it seems, but I'll post my thoughts on the Thousandfold thought anyway. I think the thousandfold thought deals with Kellhus' ability to manipulate and even think with the thousands of minds that he is able to control. Does that sound like a real possibility?[/quote:3pwkmyso]

I couldn't be sure...but I think both this and the bit in the original post for this thread (the part about possibly the Dunyain being similar to the No-God) have a bit of truth in them. During the Seswathan dreams described, it mentioned that Mog-Pharau was speaking through the thousands of Sranc everywhere. It is also said in TWP that Kellhus actually spoke though the two women (can't remember exactly where, but it happened). Perhaps Kellhus is but at the beginning stages?[/quote:3pwkmyso]

You're taking that description too literally. What Kellhus did was influence Esmenet and Serwe in such a way that they would unconsciously say the things he needed them to say to advance his cause, not that he had possession of them and was literally speaking through them. So you cannot link Kellhus to the No-God's ability to speak through Inchoroi creations. view post


Need help with holes!!! posted 07 July 2005 in Off-Topic DiscussionNeed help with holes!!! by White Lord, Subdidact

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Will Esmi Cause Mandati/Warrior-Prophet Drama? posted 09 July 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWill Esmi Cause Mandati/Warrior-Prophet Drama? by White Lord, Subdidact

Isn't this discussion pretty much moot? After all, Scott has posted a brief synopsis for TTT, and it's stated clearly that Achamian will teach Kellhus the Gnosis . . . view post


Will Esmi Cause Mandati/Warrior-Prophet Drama? posted 10 July 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWill Esmi Cause Mandati/Warrior-Prophet Drama? by White Lord, Subdidact

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The Nonmen posted 21 July 2005 in Author Q &amp; AThe Nonmen by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Lord Sarku&quot;:fkxaw2eb
I seem to have missed any description of the Nonmen. Whenever I think of them, I instantly envision some kind of furry Chewbacca Wolfman bronze-age warrior dude, but that just can't be right...[/quote:fkxaw2eb]

Erm . . . that is definitely what they do not look like! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> As to what they do look like, you'll have to wait for book three, as they will be described there. Also there are some tidbits in the books that should give you a general idea even now. view post


A few questions . . . posted 29 July 2005 in Author Q &amp; AA few questions . . . by White Lord, Subdidact

I think it's time to resurrect this thread (sorry... <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->) with a few questions <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> :

1. Is it possible for unions between Sranc and Men to have offspring?

2. Would Dunyain techniques be effective on the Sranc, or any other Consult creature, with regard to controlling their engineered impulses?

PS. It's great news that TTT is done, but also unfair to have readers like yours truly suffer nervous breakdowns in waiting months for the publication... <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

As for your question on posting the cover, I think you can post it as an attachment here (though I don't know what the size limitations might be, I suggest checking with the mods!). view post


Will Esmi Cause Mandati/Warrior-Prophet Drama? posted 31 July 2005 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWill Esmi Cause Mandati/Warrior-Prophet Drama? by White Lord, Subdidact

Have you people never heard of the Search function on this board? <!-- s:evil: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_evil.gif" alt=":evil:" title="Evil or Very Mad" /><!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

Quote: &quot;Cu'jara Cinmoi&quot;:3qpf4lal
Only Shimeh remains.

The Padirajah has been slain, and the heathen Fanim have fled in disarray. One final march will bring the Holy War to the City of the Latter Prophet. But so very much has changed...

Using godlike insight and ruthless deceit, Anasûrimbor Kellhus has conquered the hearts of all, including the harlot Esmenet, who now shares his bed. Only the barbarian, Cnaiür, and the sorcerer, Achamian, continue to hazard doubts. But where Cnaiür topples ever deeper into madness and wanton violence, Achamian is compelled to yield the secrets of the Gnosis. Not only must he protect the man who stole his wife, he must teach the most powerful sorcery known to the greatest intellect to ever walk the earth. And he fears what might happen...

The final reckoning is at hand. Faceless assassin will strike in the dead of night. Kings and Emperors will fall. The sorcerous Schools will be unleashed. And Anasûrimbor Kellhus will at last confront his father and the dread revelation of the Thousandfold Thought.[/quote:3qpf4lal] view post


The Status of Women and Some Real World Comparisons posted 04 August 2005 in Author Q &amp; AThe Status of Women and Some Real World Comparisons by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Tattooed Hand&quot;:3iz251o3
What would be the implication of making the Sranc, a beastial and brutual race, an unnatural, engineered race by evil (as far as we know now) into the only matriarchial/matrilineal/what ever you are planning to do with them that contrasts with partiarchy?[/quote:3iz251o3]

It could also mean the Sranc attribute no importance to gender differences. They could be similar to the Dunyain (again this is hypothetical, since we know nothing about the Dunyain in this regard either) if for different reasons . . . view post


Cnaiur's prowess posted 04 August 2005 in Author Q &amp; ACnaiur's prowess by White Lord, Subdidact

Well, yes, Kellhus did defeat Cnaiur, but I'm sure Mith knows that.

As to who else could defeat him, well, it's a big world, with a lot of skilled fighters. I'm sure there could be many among the Norsirai or Ketyai who could do it (leaving it to Scott to confirm) or some 7-foot Zeumi sword-dancer for that matter.

The Nonmen are supposed to be very good fighters (just check the fight between Kellhus and Mekeritrig, where even Kellhus was hard-pressed for a time.) Then again, Scott has said somewhere on the board (probably in my questions thread) that they don't survive long in the Three Seas, which begs the question: if they are so superior as fighters to "normal" men, how can they not last long there? Are whole armies sent to defeat them? <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Anasurimbors as high councillors posted 04 August 2005 in Author Q &amp; AAnasurimbors as high councillors by White Lord, Subdidact

Yes, but why would they want to be counselors to anyone?

First of all, they don't care much for the world, (or at least that is the initial impression for them both, which may well have changed for Moenghus, or is about to for Kellhus), and in any event they are descended from kings, and have the means to regain their birthright, so why shouldn't they go for that?

You may also be underestimating the degree of predestination that may be woven in the world, so if the Anasurimbor are "destined" to retake the role of Celmomas, as the leaders of Men in the Apocalypse, to do anything else might be impossible.

Remember that Scott has said somewhere of Kellhus that he is a meaningless character trying to conserve his meaninglessness in a world deep with meaning (or words to that effect). So I wonder what is "meant" for Kellhus, and if he'll be able to use the vaunted Dunyain abilities for much . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

Enough of my rambling . . . Comments welcome! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


A few questions . . . posted 05 August 2005 in Author Q &amp; AA few questions . . . by White Lord, Subdidact

Scott, I remember you saying somewhere that the world "opens up" a lot in AE. What I'm interested in is whether the Outside will also play a role in the books. Up to now we have seen almost nothing of it, if you discount the demon in Iothiah. So I'd like to know if we'll ever get any POV scenes featuring the "agencies" from the Outside, or at least a (more or less <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->) clear picture of what they're up to (if anything) . . .

Thanks! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Cnaiur's prowess posted 06 August 2005 in Author Q &amp; ACnaiur's prowess by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Mithfânion&quot;:2v732lab
I was thinking there might rank some among the Nonmen warriors certainly, as well as the Inchoroi. Of men though, I would expect the number to be limited (so little is known of Zeum, I have no idea if candidates would be present there).[/quote:2v732lab]

Well, I don't know about that . . . The sword-dancers are supposed to be incredible fighters, to judge from the "fee" the Emperor had to pay to get one, and his poor showing against Kellhus is hardly indicative.

Then again, I think a mistake that is often made is to consider characters we get to know in the books as the best in the whole world, when that may not be necessarily true, or that new characters with superior abilities won't be introduced in the future.

WRT Cnaiur himself, the blurb for TTT describes him as falling even deeper into madness, so this is not a good recommendation for him being able to defeat someone who has even a modicum of ability and a working brain . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

As to the Inchoroi, there are only two of them left and due to their nature, they could adopt almost any physical shape, so what's to stop them from forging some 500-ton biomass and simply squashing Cnaiur like a bug? <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> In short, I don't really see the Inchoroi doing any physical fighting.

Quote: &quot;target&quot;:2v732lab
Maybe the reason Nonmen struggle to survive in the Three Seas is due to the climate or something like that. A weak idea, but an idea. Shoot me down someone.[/quote:2v732lab]

Since they once ruled all of Earwa, this isn't a very convincing argument . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

Actually, the Tusk damns the Nonmen, and demands of the faithful to kill them on sight. view post


Anasurimbors as high councillors posted 06 August 2005 in Author Q &amp; AAnasurimbors as high councillors by White Lord, Subdidact

Nothing wrong with this train of thought; I simply question whether it'll ever come up. And I don't think it will. I believe there are other things in store for the Anasurimbor, than being counselors to someone else.

I guess we'll simply have to wait and see . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Cnaiur's prowess posted 06 August 2005 in Author Q &amp; ACnaiur's prowess by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: &quot;Cynical Cat&quot;:3j2x2939
Only the Few can see the Few, but anyone can see a Nonman. Considering the reaction that the Scarlett Spires recieved when they paraded throught the camp of the Holy War and they were human and part of the Holy War, a Nonman is quickly going to be up to his or her ass in trouble.[/quote:3j2x2939]

Yes, but I was pointing out another thing. If you go back to the scene where Kellhus confronts the Nonman in the North, there was nothing that showed him he was in the presence of something not human. Only when the Nonman starts talking does Kellhus realize this is a Nonman. This means they are very similar to humans in body shape. The only distinctive difference might be the face, which is always described as inhumanly beautiful.

So if a Nonman wears armor, a helm covering his face (resembling any warrior/noble in the Three Seas) and avoids prolonged contact with humans, it would be much harder to figure him out as a Nonman.

And if that happens, and if the Nonmen are so superior to men in the fighting department, I'd like to know how they can be despatched so easily, since it would take large bodies of men to do that.

I'm not saying they can't be wiped out quickly, I'm more interested in the mechanics of the thing (this is a query for you, Scott, BTW <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->). view post


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