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Sorcerous-Words Auditor | joined 03 December 2006 | 109 posts

Free will and Sorcery posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Free will and Sorcery by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

Well, I see your dilemma. Personally, I think organized religion is a little...shall I say 'hokey'? If you look back in time to religion, it was a means to explain the unexplicable. The things we dont understand. This worked well for awhile. Then, philosophers started investigating and realizing that those reasons weren't always the answers. This is seen very big in Greek mythology. Religion has also been used to control the masses. Imagine what havoc the would be unleashed if we found absolute undeniable proof that all religion was bogus. The implication would cause absolute chaos. However, we know that not all believe in god. This would be a set of morals and innate good nature that i believe all humans possess. Of course all this could be argued and I don't believe a full discussion is warranted, at least not yet.

On the aspect of sorcery...hmm. The prospect of power above what we have recognized ourselves to have has always been tempting. In the bible it speaks against sorcery and so forth. If you believe in the bible as absolute truth, does that mean that men are capable of such things? At least on some level. Is this prospect worth searching for real truth? view post

psychological affects of ranks in forums posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ psychological affects of ranks in forums by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

All I have to say is "Yes, my lords" LMAO. Social distinction predicated on wealth especially inhereted wealth is something luckily destroyed. However, I do enjoy reading about the dark ages. Sometimes, I wish I lived back in those times. Everything was so much more simple, but yet so much more complicated at the same time.

*bows to those above him* view post

How would you define religion? posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ How would you define religion? by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I believe God exists because of religion. Not the other way around. Not to offend anyone...but, hey its what i believe.

God/God's have always been used to explain what we do not understand. Think of Greek mythology perhaps?

As far as religion without god being useless. Think of Buddhism maybe?

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Free will and Sorcery posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Free will and Sorcery by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

Interesting-

First: If no religion existed from the beginning.

I don't think that we are or were ever wise enough to accept our own ignorance in the ways of the world. So, on that thought, we would seek some way of explaining. As for the wars, without conflicting religions I believe that less wars would have been fought, on a large scale.

For sorcery: Magic, and religious persecution...

You are right in the fact that many ancient religions used magic or sorcerous-like rituals in holy places and meetings all the time. I think that because humans have always feared what they do not understand it was extinguished as so. written into many religions as fear, but in there words 'unholy'. I find myself always wishing to live back in the dark ages when these questions were younger and more answerable. The further from the original acts and questions we get... the further from the answers. At least I believe this in the questions of religion and sorcery.

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How would you define religion? posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ How would you define religion? by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

no Buddha was never a god....he has and always will be a teacher. Enlightenment, is not being a god but rather awakening to full understanding.

You make the common misconception that most do....you think of the buddhist statues as idol worship...and believe he is thought of as a god because of it.

not the case:

the statues are so that we can reflect upon the enlightment that we wish to reach by visualizing the ways and a person who has already reached it.

also, they ae for postulations, these are over a hundred positions that you perform in your room of study, to relinquish the ideas of selfishness. this by performing these you show commitment to becoming a more happy and knowledgable person.

but thank you for your common misconception...because i do believe that most people think as you do and it was a wonderful way to clear that up for many. I do not mean that in a bad way. I truly thank you. Knowledge is power. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post

Free will and Sorcery posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Free will and Sorcery by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

No, i dont believe that humans know whether something is right or wrong because of religion. I believe that religion just stabilized ideas that are natural in our head. Even animals understand suffering. When we suffer through something, we naturally dont wish that suffering to continue for others. So we understand that it is wrong. If you wish to cause suffering you know that it is wrong, but your wish is to cause the suffering is greater on some scale.

other than that i totally agree with you. view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

As far as im concerned you did make sense. I believe a lot of what you said about the possibilities of the human mind. I dont know about the parellel universe thing...just never really thought to much about it. but, we only use 10% of our brains...why dont we use the other 90% or how do we learn how? view post

Right thing to do? posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Right thing to do? by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

Im not quite sure what i would do. although cigarettes are bad for the body...withdrawals are a lot of suffering view post

How would you define religion? posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ How would you define religion? by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

sorry for misconcieving your point. I do understand what you were saying now though. I totally agree with all of which you previously said. <!-- s:idea: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_idea.gif" alt=":idea:" title="Idea" /><!-- s:idea: --> Also, I know how tiresome it is to go through the whole jesus thing. but, i do view it the same as you i believe so your lack of explanation on that part didnt have lack of meaning to me anyway. I agree with you competely.

wise words view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

well your right...10% is a misconception...it could be much less. Nuerological studies show that the synaptic connections that one could have are infinite. besides that the different ways that the brain comphensates.... and the amount of electral activity is so varied among different people that i find that statement to be possible...not cold hard truth...but possible. view post

Free will and Sorcery posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Free will and Sorcery by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

very interesting!

I would be slightly sceptical. but would not rule it out as an impossibility. I would wish to know more as much as i could from you. i however would have an instantly doubtful view, just cautious on accepting it as truth from the start view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

interesting. i agree with us relating ourselves and others to fictional or real people. I am not quite sure why this scares you though. My contention is that we need to stop fearing and rejecting the unknown for it to be revealed to us. Some believe through some forms of meditation you can reach a point were you can listen so well, that you can hear their thoughts. almost like hearing their soul.

I personally believe this to be true. view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

off topic...what cause you to go up in rank? as far as messaging...i just think it is interesting and was wondering how it worked view post

The Reaction of a New Religion posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ The Reaction of a New Religion by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

Curious:

What are your thoughts on a new religion forming? Do you think that the masses would even consider it? or is it too new? when the old is so much closer to the beginning of time and has so much support from its members already?

Do you consider philosophy a religion in and of itself? It holds means to describe our higher purpose...and to understand the unknown...is this not enough? view post

The Reaction of a New Religion posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ The Reaction of a New Religion by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

but you dont necessarily have to worship anything for it to be a religion. I will use Buddhism once again as an example of that. You are right I did forget scientology. I would think dunyain to be a more likely religion to start from that book though <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> ...just because it is much like many eastern religions in some way. view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I do meditate. not as often in the past 4 months because i dont have as much time as i used to...but yes i do...and its a combination of different buddhist meditations, and how i percieve a path to further understanding the self might include, what about you WP? view post

The Reaction of a New Religion posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ The Reaction of a New Religion by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

good point on both i agree with all. i will have a later post on christianity. view post

Free will and Sorcery posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Free will and Sorcery by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I would inquire more with enthusiasm view post

The Reaction of a New Religion posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ The Reaction of a New Religion by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I do believe WP is correct. Expecially in the US. I had forgot. view post

Free will and Sorcery posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Free will and Sorcery by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

*agrees with WP* view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

We seem much alike WP view post

Free Will posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Free Will by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

all things well founded. i think much of the original problems from who first posted go for many sects of organized religion. I will have a post on christianity a little later view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

why thank you. I strongly agree and look forward to your reply of my next post subject: Christianity: Revelations view post

Christianity: Revelations posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Christianity: Revelations by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

Okay, might not so long awaited Christianity discussion. It will not include my views on jesus and Christianity as a whole because I do not have the capacity to write for that many hours straight at this point and time. Nor, do I feel the need to be so controversial. So sticking to current Christian beliefs that some will find interesting I will procede:

The Rapture of the church: illustrated in the left behind series so some of you have a general idea of what this is.

so, in the bible it says that 3 generations after the budding of the fig tree jesus will return (rapture)

the budding of the fig tree is currently believed to be when israel became a nation

this happened in 1948.

a bible generation is 20 years

therefore 3 generations is 60 years

so 3 generations after the budding of the fig tree would be 2008.

my point/question here is how do you view this information? and what do you think its implications are? what happens if the rapture doesnt happen? misconception by many on what the budding really was? or something far more grim for the christian community? view post

The Devil is in the Details posted 03 December 2006 in Writing Tips ⟩ The Devil is in the Details by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I believe the best way to go about this is to simplify somewhat. explain two things and your good.

what is done - and what the result is

the why isnt as important and should be left up to the readers imagination. what do you think of this approach? view post

Fantasy and Philosophy posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Fantasy and Philosophy by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I believe that fantasy is driven by our definition of perfection...our definition of perfection isnt always perfect. Mr. Bakker's world for instance would be my perfection as I long for such a contact with this world. Where there is so much more exciting things than bullets, nuclear weapons, and technology. back to the dark ages is where i find my mind drawn with a deep desire.` view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

personally...it coming through another demension sounds a little hokey. I would be more apt to believe it coming from dead relatives...his brain activity differing from ours and being able to pick up the spiritual. Or, maybe it's just a gift of instrumental intelligence? view post

Christianity: Revelations posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Christianity: Revelations by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

sorry i did say something i didnt mean. i meant that he would call for those who were christian...not actually come down...sorry.

question? why only 1000 years of peace? and is a thousand years our current understanding of a year? because if this is so than that is not that long at all view post

More to Life posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ More to Life by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I agree with you WP, but i was just trying to go for the most far out thing i could grasp <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post

Christianity: Revelations posted 03 December 2006 in Philosophy Discussion ⟩ Christianity: Revelations by Sorcerous-Words, Auditor

I do not remember where exactly in the bible these things are located...I studied them years ago...the idea just stuck with me.

WP - I agree that one day of peace would be adequate

*joking in next sentence* but if there is total peace and no one dies then we are left with over population from the multitude that hasnt died that day. *end joke*

However, what do you view will happen in 2008 if anything? view post

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