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Scarred Candidate | joined 31 August 2004 | 34 posts


Like father like son? posted 31 August 2004 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Scarred, Candidate

Quote: "tellner":2hyj75u5
Other bits of evidence that Maithanet is Consult....

1) Kell only saw him from far away but felt there was something wrong about him.

2) "Follow the money". Who benefits from the Holy War? Not the Tuskers. Not the Fanim. On the other hand, the Consult gets its enemies to wear each other down. Let's you and him fight.[/quote:2hyj75u5]

I'm not so certain of that. If Maithanet was Consult, then why wouldnt he have declared a holy war on the schools, eliminating the Madate who are the only ones that could possibly find the Consult threat?

Maithanet is, in my mind, the counterpart to Moengus. Both stand from afar, yet still seem to figure in all decisions and influence everyone. My guess would be that Maithanet is somehow either connected to the Dunyain, or the Non-Men. But I definitly see the merit in your argument. view post


The Title posted 31 August 2004 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Title by Scarred, Candidate

TTT sounds much, much better. When Sorcerors Sing sounds pretty lame. view post


Cnair posted 31 August 2004 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnair by Scarred, Candidate

While reading the two books, I noticed that nearly every character was despicable and evil in their own way, that everyone had their own agenda and lied constantly to themselves and others, I felt some degree of disgust for all of them, yet strangely felt sympathy for Cnair.

I became entranced, and appalled as I saw every character become manipulated and changed by Kellhus, yet I only felt outrage at him, when he began using Serwe to manipulate Cnair, playing on his tormented memories. Cnair seemed to be a sort of wall, standing against the Dunyain's domination.

For some reason, Cnair seemed to be a pure sort of character, and probably the most sympathetic of all in both novels. He has commited atrocities, but still has a sense for justice and honour, and would likely be a friend of many of the nobles, were he not torn apart inside by his conflicting views of whether he was one of the People or not. When he finally gave into Kellhus, then turned on him, then seemed to give in again, I started to wonder what sort of role he would play later on in the series.

What more can Kellhus use him for? What of the prophecy which (I believe, correct me if Im wrong) contains a mentioning of a Scylevendi? Now that he no longer has his "proof" how will he be able to live with himself? I'm pretty sure that he will play a significant role in the next novel, possibly as a means of killing the Consult? Since he has shown himself to be capable of at least fighting at a similar level with them. All I know is that Cnair is my favourite character and I hope he can survive the series.

Comments? Theories? (Sorry for the crappy thread, I'm a n00b it would seem :p) view post


Ages posted 31 August 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionAges by Scarred, Candidate

Im 16 myself. I'm a young'un. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> view post


Online RPG? posted 31 August 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionOnline RPG? by Scarred, Candidate

That sounds pretty cool to me, I dunno what sort of thing you could do though, RPGs based on books can either rule or completely miss the target. Itd be best just to be in the world, apart from the stories. The whole concept of factions and schools would make it interesting. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 31 August 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

cough syrup <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post


Quotes posted 31 August 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionQuotes by Scarred, Candidate

Quote: &quot;JustifiedHeretic&quot;:1fshs974

Bad Religion - All There Is "There's space for a paper airplane race in the eye of a hurricane, and if pigs could fly then surely so could I, but this pedestrian knows better then to even try, and my divinity is caught between the colours of a butterfly."[/quote:1fshs974]

Just to tell you, I love Bad Religion, kudos on your taste in music.

Heres some shameless self promotion, lyrics I wrote for my band (yet to be implemented in a song):

"Life is successful failures, Gambling on our trust."

And one from R.E.M:

"Everybody hurts....sometimes."

Rita Mae Brown:

""A life of reaction is a life of slavery, intellectually and spiritually. One must fight for a life of action, not reaction."


Thats all Ive got for now. view post


Mindless Amusement: Type your Username with your elbows posted 31 August 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionMindless Amusement: Type your Username with your elbows by Scarred, Candidate

Try it weve done this on my other forum that I post in, heres mine:

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see what you guys can get. :thumb: view post


Now listening to... posted 01 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow listening to... by Scarred, Candidate

I'm listening to Catch 22: Walking Away. Some lovely ska. view post


What area of writing are you good at? posted 01 September 2004 in Writing TipsWhat area of writing are you good at? by Scarred, Candidate

I was best at describing detail in the environment, I also seem to be decent at world building. My characters always seem lacking though. Same with their thoughts. view post


Idea: Writing Competition posted 01 September 2004 in Member Written WorksIdea: Writing Competition by Scarred, Candidate

As a way to draw interest to this forum, and the site in general, I think that having weekly, or biweekly (or monthly, whatever) writing competions would be a very effective way to do so, as well as have soem fun and stir up soem friendly competition. I know that works of writing are sometimes difficult to compare, but itd be a fun thing to do. If not necessarily write stories, then poems or short stories or something like that.

All entrants would be required to vote for all the other works, possibly ranking them from best to worst, and the winner can pick a theme, or a scene that must be used by all entrants in the next competition as a way to provide incentive to win.

Anyways, I probably have no say here, (being a n00b) but I really think that it would be a lot of fun, and have more people involved. Please post any comments, and say if you think such a thing would work.

Merci view post


Idea: Writing Competition posted 02 September 2004 in Member Written WorksIdea: Writing Competition by Scarred, Candidate

Yeah, I wasnt sure what the stance was towards new people on this site, the forum I cam from has thousands of posters so I guess it can afforsdto be anti newbie eh?

I did read what the other sort of evnt was in here, but it didnt appear to be a competetion per se, its very cool, but not really what I meant. It really doesnt matter to me though if no one wants the sort of competition Im proposing, its all good. view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 02 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

Sponge view post


Terry Goodkind engages in rape fantasy? posted 02 September 2004 in Literature DiscussionTerry Goodkind engages in rape fantasy? by Scarred, Candidate

Ah, I really enjoyed his stuff for a while, though I definitly agree taht he should quit using his books as a vehicle for his beliefs, its most irritating when every book spouts the same stuff. Especially the 7th and 8th ones, ugh. I thought that the first 2 books, and maybe the 6th were quite good though, nice and simple. view post


Is the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? posted 02 September 2004 in Philosophy DiscussionIs the idea of a &quot;god&quot; inherent in our minds? by Scarred, Candidate

I think that humans are predisposed to believing in a God, or at least some sort of higher authority. We, as people, yearn for a reason to exist, a purpose so to speak. Without something higher than us, we have nothing to act for, we effectively have no hope for anything past what we can see. If we didnt believe in God, we would think that once we died, there's nothing for us. That could either be a motivating though, or a depressing one. For those who need a purpose, and something to hope for, the thought of a God is comforting, and motivates those peopel to do their best in this world, so that they may reach paradise in the next. view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 02 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

Bologna view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 03 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

Spleen

(Dont ask) view post


Written Language posted 03 September 2004 in Author Q &amp; AWritten Language by Scarred, Candidate

After reading both TDTCB and TWP, I was very impressed by your inclusion of different languages, and the whole chart showing the relations between them, but all thats ever really been mentioned is spoken language. Is there a set alphabet of sorts for written language? Or are the languages mostly written as hieroglyphs or maybe chinese-esque? I'd be interested to know, since this whole time, I'd been picturing things written with a sort of Arabic styled writing.

Thanks in advance <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Terry Goodkind engages in rape fantasy? posted 03 September 2004 in Literature DiscussionTerry Goodkind engages in rape fantasy? by Scarred, Candidate

^^^Yeah, effective those two ended up with everyone in pretty much the same positio they were in after Faith of The Fallen. "Zedd is cpatured from tower, escapes back into tower. Richards gift actsup, oops it doesnt anymore." What a waste view post


Written Language posted 04 September 2004 in Author Q &amp; AWritten Language by Scarred, Candidate

Ah, I gotcha, I didnt see that thread. Thanks! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 04 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

Geetar view post


Idea: Writing Competition posted 04 September 2004 in Member Written WorksIdea: Writing Competition by Scarred, Candidate

Boy does that sound exhilirating :p view post


Cnair posted 04 September 2004 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnair by Scarred, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Andrew&quot;:2yxgh3es
Scarred: In terms of the Nietzschien element - i've always considered both Cnaiur and kellus to be reflections of two Nietzschien ideals. Cnaiur on the one hand seems to be a perfect example of the Master Morality ideal. Strength, dominance, power etc. affirming itself through action. Nietzche i think would approve of Cnaiur. Kellus seems to be a perfect example of the Uber-Mensch. An individual that has transcended humanity - is in complete control of his actions and of all men, most perfectly able to choose. Nietzshe (N) would also approve of Kellus. From that perspective, what either character does is right and good regardless of its consequences on other people. N viewed things like compassion, forgiveness, mercy, humility etc., in, shall we say, a less than favourable light. The weak and pitiful value mercy etc. and set such values up to be desired in order to subvert the natural order and value system of dominance, strength etc. N derided Christianity because it says, "blessed are the meek, poor, merciful etc.; turn the other cheek - if a man asks you to go one mile, go two miles." Having said this, i don't believe that Bakker is setting up these two characters as ideals or saying their actions are actually good. Just because N would tell you they are good, right, above reproach whatever, doesn't mean they actually ARE good.

I think that if anything Bakker has set out to destroy those 2 ideals because scarred, you are perfectly right when you say that in a universe goverened by Nietzschean ideals, the Consult is exactly the same as Kellus. - actually it might be better to say that the Consult is the same as Cnaiur. In a typical book, the characters from whose point of view the book is told, or who the action follows most closely, are intended to be the sympathetic character - the 'good guy'. I don't think that is the objective in the PON - i think what we have in the PON are the extraordinary characters. The characters, good or evil, upon which the fate of the world rest. I don't think we can say from this that Bakker is sold on N. It doesn't follow that the actions of the principal characters are good.

It certainly doesn't follow that I am going to say "oh, it's a nietzschean universe, i guess i'll have to applaud Cnaiur's raping and murder" - hang that! i'm solidly against N and the moral system he espoused.
[/quote:2yxgh3es]

I agree with you on pretty much everything. The one mai thing that I found most fascinating about PoN, is that NO character is entirely free of blame in anything, everyone has their own agenda of sorts. There are various times when every character may seem sympathetic, there are times when every character seemed repulsive to me. There have been times when I felt that the Holy War itself was the real antagonist of the story, ot the Consult, Kellhus or anyone else.

And just for the record, (I dont think anyone assumed this) I didnt feel any sympathy towards Cnair or applaud his actions of rape and murder, I felt sympathy towards him for his past manipulation, which haunts him in the present time, as well as for his conflicts between whether he helps the Inirithi for whom he has developed some sympathy, or for him to stay true to his heritage. view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 04 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

Ravens view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 05 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

Blood view post


Sex posted 05 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionSex by Scarred, Candidate

make that 28 males. <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: --> view post


What other sites are you active on? posted 06 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionWhat other sites are you active on? by Scarred, Candidate

musicianforums.com is my home base, mostly because im a supermod there. I dont eve post so much any more, unless Im banning someone or closing something. *shakes head* view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 06 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

spellcheck view post


First Word that Comes to Mind posted 14 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Scarred, Candidate

Cabbage view post


Now listening to... posted 14 September 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionNow listening to... by Scarred, Candidate

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Blue Rodeo-Till I am Myself Again

YEs....its sort of countryish, but the lyrics are brilliant, and it can still occasionally bring me to tears its so moving. Im such a big suck. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> view post


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