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dirk69er Candidate | joined 25 January 2008 | 17 posts


What drove Kellhus mad? posted 25 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWhat drove Kellhus mad? by dirk69er, Candidate

In TTT Moenghus made the comment that Kellhus was mad a couple of times. I thought about this and wondered if he considered Kellhus mad because he could comprehend things that Moenghus considered impossible or was he really mad?

If he was mad then the question that I have, and am unsure of is; What drove Kellhus mad?

Was he tainted due to his long exposure to the world?

What are your thoughts? view post


Question about the Tekne and soulled beings posted 25 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtQuestion about the Tekne and soulled beings by dirk69er, Candidate

Skin-spies are capable of having souls. Recall the encounter that Maithanet had with the Simas skin-spy. He mentioned that a skin-spy who had learned socery, who possesess (sic?) a soul. view post


What drove Kellhus mad? posted 25 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWhat drove Kellhus mad? by dirk69er, Candidate

Does that mean then that everyone who believes in Kellhus are also mad? Others can see the halos as well. view post


What did the blind man whisper to Kellhus? posted 25 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtWhat did the blind man whisper to Kellhus? by dirk69er, Candidate

On his way to Shimeh, Kellhus encounters a blind man who has message for his ears alone. Upon listening, Kellhus strikes him down. The question remains; what did the blind man whisper.

This is just one of the many questions that I have and I hope that everyone does not mind me asking them. Thank you! view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 29 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by dirk69er, Candidate

If you are going to pit Kellhus against anyone in the Dune Universe it would have to be Leto II the God-Emperor. He would be totally immune to Kellhus' manipulations and has more than enough intellect to match him otherwise. As far as fighting ability, pre-worm, he has Prana-Bindu training. As well as the Voice, so it would be more likely he could impel Kellhus to do what he wanted not the other way around.

After the transformation, his body is near impervious. Only point blank range with a lasgun would even damage him. Of course there is his oracular vision which would allow him to predict pretty much anything Kellhus could even do. Not to mention that he is also a mentat. So Leto hands down. view post


Evolution vs Creation posted 29 January 2008 in Philosophy DiscussionEvolution vs Creation by dirk69er, Candidate

Ok, I will just say one thing about this subject.

Whether you agree or not evolution is a religion. It is governed by a set of beliefs. It is taught dogmatically as a doctrine. It has elements within it that cannot be explained completely yet. It is based on faith, many of the things that I have learned in college never seemed to have a concrete basis which led to much confusion on my part.

Many evolutionist (myself included) do not want to admit this about evolution. To admit this fact would be to place our beliefs to close to that of religion. But that is just what it really is, a religion

There are things that I have learned in my education about evolution and biology that just do not make sense. There are so many viewpoints that sometimes I really wonder if this is a valid belief system.

Of couse religion is just as convoluted and conflicting. There are just as many religions believing different things but professing faith in some form of entity whose doings they abscribe to mystery.

So right now I don't know what to really believe anymore as both paths are very unfulfilling.

This is a fitting cartoon:

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the bible is the solution posted 29 January 2008 in Philosophy Discussionthe bible is the solution by dirk69er, Candidate

Jamara, you my good sir are correct, mostly.

Constantine's council of Nicaea was held to streamline Christian beliefs so as to stop causing problems in his empire. The main issue was the persons of God and Jesus and just who they were. Most religious leaders at the time professed God and Jesus as two seperate beings. Others claimed that they were one, this conflict in beliefs caused fissures in his empire. He forced the religious leaders to combine their belief to what is commonly know as the Trinity. Although at the time only God and Jesus were mentioned.

And Constantine did not convert to Chritianity until he was on his death bed. The resolution of this issue was not the reason for his convertion.

Of course I believe the Bible has many good things in it. It was a book that was ahead of its time in many areas. Such as Job mentioning the Earth was round a few hundred years before Galileo's theory of heliocentricity. Also in matters of sanitation the Bible has shown itself superior to what was viewed at the time of the writing of some of its books. Such as the Israelites being instructed to excrete outside of there camps at an instructed distance as opposed to the Egyptians who believe rubbing human excrement on some wounds would heal them.

Then there are the morals that the Bible presents. Granted a lot of people have trouble with the Bible because they do not want to be told what to do. But the guiding principles found therein are still beneficial today.

Do you deny that the world would be a better place if everyone followed the advice at Matthew 7:12?

Anyway, the issue that people have is not with the Bibile per se but with religion and the way they represent the Bible. Religion as a whole is totally controlling and unethical, especially when upholding Bible standards. The Bible is misrepresented through them and as a result many form a paradigm of this book.

Even though I am a biology major and believe in evolution, I have taken the time to read the Bible many times in fact, through different versions and translations. And I can say that it contains good 'stuff'.

Disclaimer: This post was not intended to offend anyone. view post


Is God Flawed??? posted 29 January 2008 in Philosophy DiscussionIs God Flawed??? by dirk69er, Candidate

How can this be answered at all?

If humans are flawed and yet deign to ask if God is flawed, would not that make our assessment of him flawed in return? How can we fully understand God then? view post


Is God Flawed??? posted 30 January 2008 in Philosophy DiscussionIs God Flawed??? by dirk69er, Candidate

Harrol, I agree. view post


Evolution vs Creation posted 30 January 2008 in Philosophy DiscussionEvolution vs Creation by dirk69er, Candidate

Good explanation Israfel. view post


the bible is the solution posted 30 January 2008 in Philosophy Discussionthe bible is the solution by dirk69er, Candidate

Harrol, since I do not know you well enough, I don't know whether to take that as a compliment or not. =) view post


the bible is the solution posted 30 January 2008 in Philosophy Discussionthe bible is the solution by dirk69er, Candidate

Harrol,

Who says that there will not be consequences? In reading the Bible I remember there being an account about Job suffering evil at the hands of the devil. All that he suffered was allowed by God.

Now one would ask, 'why would God allow a man who was described as upright before the eyes of God, to suffer evil?' I too pondered this but then no sooner than I gave up the Bible offered the answer a few verses later.

The devil made a claim that man would only serve God out of selfishness. So God allowed the devil to prove his point. Ultimately, even though Job had to suffer evil, God was proven right as Job remained faithful. And Job was rewarded for his faithfulness with ten times more than what he owned previously.

Maybe that is what God is doing to today. Perhaps he is giving us enough time to prove that we would be better off without his interference or guidance, however you want to look at it.

All I can say is, I really don't know. I just know what I have read from the book and using logic and reason conclude that this might be a possiblility.

It is kind of the same thing as being a father. And someone accusing you of be a terrible father and telling others about how bad you are. Of course the natural inclination is to deny thise vehemently maybe even violently. But such a reaction might just confirm the accusations. Rather, displaying that you are a good father would be stronger than anything you may say.

What is the old saying, &quot;actions speak louder than words.'

Anyway it's not for me to interpret the Bible. I just like to keep an open mind and consider all the possibilities. Thank you! view post


the bible is the solution posted 30 January 2008 in Philosophy Discussionthe bible is the solution by dirk69er, Candidate

Harrol,

Please do not misunderstand my last post. I do think that there will be recompense for those who change or teach ideas contrary to Bible teachings. But to say that God is not going to do anything about it would be a mistake.

What I was trying to bring out in my post, is that just because God does not choose to do anything right now about such things, does not mean he will never do so. If there is one thing I garnered from my many readings of the book is that God has his own timetable for doing things. And he always seemed to offer warnings before actually handing out any punishment. That could be the case here. But what do I know =) view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 30 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by dirk69er, Candidate

It would not matter what ground they fought on. Leto is master of past, present and future. His oracular vision is near infallible, the only reason he died is because he ALLOWED himself to die.

I would love to see Kellhus fight him in his worm body with a sword. That would be laughable. Besides you don't live for 3000 years and not become the most inimidating figure in the universe. One other thing in Leto's favour, Other Memory. Even if Kellhus presented something that Leto could not comprehend (not likely) Other Memory would definately have the answer.

In this case Kellhus is overmatched. Leto is not the Kwisatz Haderach for nothing. Ironically the Logos is the 'Shortest Path' and Kwisatz Haderach means 'Shortening of the Way' go figure.

That is my take, what reason do you have for thinking that the ground, conditioned or not, would have any effect on the out come? Please not I am not trying to be confrontational. It is always interesting to hear other people's opnions. Thank you!! view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 30 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by dirk69er, Candidate

Mandati,

Try reading the 'God Emperor of Dune'. Leto though presented as all powerful entity actually makes an interesting character. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 30 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by dirk69er, Candidate

Mandati,

There are many Kwisatz Haderachs.

Here is more information about said subject.

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Kelhus vs ... posted 19 February 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by dirk69er, Candidate

I fink Kellhus would poke his eyes out wif a pointy sword.

This also would not matter as Leto's oracular vision would allow him to still see Kellhus. There really isn't anyway for Kellhus to defeat Leto. view post


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