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FuraxVZ Candidate | joined 19 July 2004 | 17 posts


Karma? posted 26 July 2004 in Author Q & AKarma? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

“That which comes before determines that which comes after.”

This principal of the Logos seems to be the concept of karma. Am I reading too much Buddhist thought into what Kellhus and the Dunyain are?

Throughout reading TDtCB, I kept drawing parallels between Dunyain thought and Buddhist philosophy. Was this intentional? Perhaps I am using this parallel as a crutch to understand the Dunyain. And as a Buddhist, I tend to see the dharma in everything. view post


Karma? posted 26 July 2004 in Author Q & AKarma? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Mmmm, interesting. Thanks Replay.

I guess I need to grok more on what the Logos is, and I feel I'm missing out by not having read The Warrior Prophet yet.

To me, the Logos seemed to be the vehicle for Enlightenment and/or the laws of the Universe. So I equated Logos to Dharma. Where the defintion of Dharma can vary depending on the context, so I thought the Logos might as well. From what I've seen the Logos is more like the techniques of study, etc.

Again, perhaps my question is premature by not having read TWP. view post


What would you say are the must-reads of literature? posted 27 July 2004 in Literature DiscussionWhat would you say are the must-reads of literature? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Darnit, I've lost my list of 'The Ten Books You Have to Read' I made a while back. It was actually a struggle to limit myself to ten and still sample a little of everything.

Here's a few off the top of my head (and in no order):

Proust's In Search of Lost Time (and I'll cheat and call all books just one)

Tolstoy's War and Peace or Anna Karenina (you get to pick whether you like war or romance)

Orwell's 1984 (though I like Animal Farm better)

Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby

Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (not a novel, but great commentary on history. . . beyond just the Romans too.)

Then I start thinking of naming lots of Asian masterpieces that no one reads like The Tale of Genji and The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, etc. As I said, very difficult to pick what MUST be read; there's so much! view post


Karma? posted 27 July 2004 in Author Q & AKarma? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Quote: "Cu'jara Cinmoi":1uyz0427
You assume too much, Replay! <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

No, there was no intentional parallel to Buddhism and the Dunyain, though I think I can see how you might suspect one, Furax: both are concerned with the 'appetitive soul.' But where Buddhism (as I understand it) seeks to master or extinguish the appetitive soul to end suffering, the Dunyain seek to master or extinguish the appetitive soul to better master the origins of their thought - to become a 'self-moving soul,' one free of the myriad darknesses that come before. The Logos, or Reason, is their principle instrument. Unlike the Buddhists, the Dunyain draw no line between what must be mastered and what must be accepted. For the Dunyain, anything that impacts the origins of our thoughts, be it animal lust, historical caprice, or the words of another, must be mastered.

This actually makes the Dunyain the antithesis of creeds such as Buddhism or Stoicism, I think.[/quote:1uyz0427]

That's very much, Dr. Bakker. I need to digest this response a bit (and I'm certainly over my head with the discussion of Derrida).

I'm still clinging to the Buddhist/Dunyain parallel a bit; when you said 'the darness that comes before' I translate that as samsara (suffering). Though, I agree that Buddhists try not to master the origination of thoughts per se; it's more of an exercise in self-awareness to discover how to recognize errant thoughts.

As I said before, interesting stuff. Very gripping material in the book that transcends any genre. view post


What would you say are the must-reads of literature? posted 27 July 2004 in Literature DiscussionWhat would you say are the must-reads of literature? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Sovin Nai&quot;:2duo0tr4
Personally, I think it's not so important what you get read so long as you read for life and sample diversity. I figrue that way you're bound to get the important ones. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->[/quote:2duo0tr4]

Haha <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> But as I get older, I am less tolerant of reading crap. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> view post


When is TDTCB being released in paperback in the US? posted 27 July 2004 in Author Q &amp; AWhen is TDTCB being released in paperback in the US? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

I am advising my friends to NOT wait to buy the paperback; TDtCB is so good, I say to them, that you will want it as a hardback.

At the same time, let's look forward to an expanded audience (in the US at least) with the release of the paperback. view post


Well Scott, you wanted some discussion of your Interviews ;) posted 29 July 2004 in Interviews and ReviewsWell Scott, you wanted some discussion of your Interviews ;) by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Aldarion&quot;:gbskkwy6
Matt Stover is the author of a couple of authors starring a character named Caine that are known for being quite violent and yet thought-provoking, plus he's written a few Star Wars novels (like Shatterpoint, which I haven't read) and was recently hired to write the novelization to Episode III. He's a character, that's for sure.[/quote:gbskkwy6]

Yeah, interesting what he posted:

I'm not entirely sure what he meant. The use of "modernity" ("the quality of being modern") seems to leave out theoretical junk like socialism being associated with modernism.

I took it to mean either

1) fantasy is essentially a regressive attempt to escape the modern world into one more pleasing, or

2) fantasy is a critique/reflection of our modern world.

In the first sense, he's narrow-minded (i.e. he's obviously never read ME); in the the second, he's merely a pompous windbag.

ALL serious fiction is a critique/reflection of the modern world (modern to the author, anyway).


So, the question is: Is this Stover guy any good? Writing Star Wars novels doesn't seem very . . . glamorous (that's a personal judgement since I think Star Wars is hack fiction anyway, not that I have read him).

He certainly seems full of himself. view post


Terry Goodkind engages in rape fantasy? posted 30 July 2004 in Literature DiscussionTerry Goodkind engages in rape fantasy? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Every time I read quotes from him, I'm shocked on how Randian they sound. His faith to Ayn Rand is obsessive.

Anyway, I guess I can agree that fantasy writers try to write more relevant themes than just swords and sorcery. Sure. Of course, his doom-and-gloom predictions of our 'civilization' cannot endure 'the kind of self-indulgent destruction of social fabric and family structure we are witnessing' from his 'study of history' sounds ridiculous.

And I thought the title of the post had more to do with his rape fantasy he writes in his books; again, like Rand, he has some skewed ideas of love and romance and sexual relations.

As for his books, I gave up long ago, even before he became a born-again Objectivist. Just poorly written and trite. view post


Dan Brown posted 30 July 2004 in Literature DiscussionDan Brown by FuraxVZ, Candidate

I was ready to post my distaste for Brown here, but then I noticed (what I believe to be) your response on the ASoIaF message board: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://p080.ezboard.com/fasoiaffrm7.showMessage?topicID=1922.topic">http://p080.ezboard.com/fasoiaffrm7.sho ... 1922.topic</a><!-- m -->

While I'm no friend of the Catholic church (like Brown is as he has meet the pope, etc.), I find his views on Catholicism a bit simplistic. As for his writing, it's gimmicky. And as I a fan of Eco, I think Foucault's Pendulum a far better book.

But perhaps I am guilty of what was posted in that thread:

you find someone somewhere that can write better then you and you take his stance 100% becuase your mind cant accept the things you read.


And instead of Brown, I picked Eco. view post


Dan Brown posted 01 August 2004 in Literature DiscussionDan Brown by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Damaen&quot;:1lvjf777
the best part about the Da Vinci Code is that it is almost entirely plagerized. he completely ripped off another author. if i can find an article about it i'll post it here[/quote:1lvjf777]

Poor Lewis Perdue. It just goes to show how Fortune is fickle, I guess. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

For those interested, here's some articles:

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/30/DDGB45S7JV1.DTL">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 5S7JV1.DTL</a><!-- m -->

and one from the author himself:

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ideaworx.com/daughter-davinci.html">http://www.ideaworx.com/daughter-davinci.html</a><!-- m --> view post


sarah ash posted 04 August 2004 in Literature Discussionsarah ash by FuraxVZ, Candidate

I have NOT read this, but it did catch my eye (both the cover and title are good) and the story itself sounds like it could have potential.

Could you give a spoiler free review? view post


My odd perspective on myself and the universe posted 13 August 2004 in Philosophy DiscussionMy odd perspective on myself and the universe by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Nice post, Gran. I would have to agree with you.

To tie it into TDtCB, it's like Kellhus when he first enters the 'real' world; he stares at a leaf and is lost completely in it. Life is awe inspiring. view post


When do you think Martin's next book will be released? posted 28 August 2004 in Literature DiscussionWhen do you think Martin's next book will be released? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

I'm thinking mid-November. . . . hopefully that's 2005.

I was holding off rereading the series until an official release date is announced, but I'm thinking of rereading anyway. view post


Official Book Club discussion nominations posted 28 August 2004 in Book ClubOfficial Book Club discussion nominations by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Who hasn't read A Game of Thrones?

My idea of a book club is more to uncover hard-to-find or undiscovered gems. A Game of Thrones is something I would think everyone has read, but it's certainly an excellent book that could spawn a lot of discussion (see their message board!).

Is the book club limited to Sci-Fi/Fantasy then? view post


Any plans for a hardcover edition of The Warrior Prophet posted 28 August 2004 in The Warrior ProphetAny plans for a hardcover edition of The Warrior Prophet by FuraxVZ, Candidate

I'm worried that the US hardcover sales will be low. . . .

because everyone I recommend TDtCB to, buys TWP from Canada! They can't wait to read the next one. Amazon.ca and Clarkesworldbooks.com must have a tough time keeping up with copies of it since the release of TDtCB in the US.

I will probably end up buying TWP now and then later when it comes in hardback. The softcover for TWP is quite nice actually; I wish I could get TDtCB in that same style. view post


When do you think Martin's next book will be released? posted 14 September 2004 in Literature DiscussionWhen do you think Martin's next book will be released? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

I also believe GRRM said that as soon as he was done, the very minute, he would post it on his site. Then we have to wait patiently for the book to be made, and if I remember correctly, that's at least six months for folks in the US. Less for those in the UK.

Again, my memory is fuzzy, but the reason this is so, is the UK printers have less of a backlog of printing they do.

At any rate, much like people buying Bakker's books from Canada, I know many people that will be being the UK book and shipping it to the States. view post


When do you think Martin's next book will be released? posted 20 September 2004 in Literature DiscussionWhen do you think Martin's next book will be released? by FuraxVZ, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Damaen&quot;:lhibqgrv
on the GRRM discussion...

i was looking around websites/forums because you guys got me thinking about it again.. apparently george hinted at "3 dragons" that are returning. Danaerys (sp) is obviously 1. Jon Snow is most likely 2. who will ride the third dragon? the prevailing thoughts include one of the babies not being killed by Clegane or tyrion (hah). the maester on the wall is too old.

neat.[/quote:lhibqgrv]

I believe the leading candidate for the third dragon is Bran. Or that somehow Bran become a dragon. Something like that. My guess is that the theorists believe Bran to become super powerful since he's 'handicapped'. view post


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