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Stephen Erikson's Books posted 08 March 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Wil, Head Moderator

I recently started Gardens of the Moon by Stephen Erikson, and I"m about 150 pages into it. My question is whether this is the first book (I saw no book order when I bought them) and if it is, do things get more explained (ie magic, the Deck of Dragons etc.)? I would appreciate it if this remained a NON-SPOILER thread. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 09 March 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Kellais, Commoner

Hi Wil

Yes, GotM IS the first book. Followed by Deadhouse Gates, Memories of Ice, House of Chains and, released this march, Midnight Tides.
And yes, you will get more explanations but all so slowly. But that is fun IMO. Steven Erikson teases us with a lot of glimpses and then leaves us dangling....i like that (as long as it will be explained somewhere!). So my advice is, keep on reading... <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

Kellais

P.S.: Was that spoiler-less enough? *lol* view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 09 March 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Wil, Head Moderator

yes thats perfect. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 16 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by LooseCannon, Peralogue

I'm rereading GOTM for probably the fourth time (I think) and the first time in a few years and I am discovering a few tidbits I hadn't noticed before. Erikson has admitted that there are a few inconsistencies between this book and later books (some characters undergo sex changes as well as some erroneous dates) but it does become clear as you go back and read the books over.

Btw, are you done reading GOTM yet, Wil? view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 16 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Wil, Head Moderator

Yeah, I'm about 300 pages into Memories of Ice. I ripped through GOTM and Deadhouse Gates. So far I love them, their really easy to read but not simple (if that makes ANY sense). I'm loving all the characters! view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 17 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by LooseCannon, Peralogue

Yeah you will probably get a better understanding of things if you reread the books. Erikson is the kind of writer that you have to read the story a couple of times before a lot of the detail sinks in. Either that or you have to read very slowly <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->.

MOI is my favorite of the series, btw. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 24 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Anonymous, Subdidact

MOI is really cool. You can't go wrong with holy knights (i.e like the Grey Swords).
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Stephen Erikson's Books posted 25 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Atanvarno, Peralogue

Quote: &quot;Wil&quot;:g8zj3kpw
Yeah, I'm about 300 pages into Memories of Ice. I ripped through GOTM and Deadhouse Gates. So far I love them, their really easy to read but not simple (if that makes ANY sense). I'm loving all the characters![/quote:g8zj3kpw]I am the only person in the world who has difficulties reading Erikson? I've tried to read Gardens of the Moon five times now, each time giving up around two hundred pages in. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: --> view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 26 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Anonymous, Subdidact

just finish it once, you'll like it. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 27 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Iceman, Candidate

It's a common problem, Atanvarno. Lot's of people have a hard time getting into GoTM. Those that does get thorugh it seldom regret it though. The following books makes things a bit clearer. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 27 April 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I spent about half the book getting into it, and the second half devouring it. SE is addicting. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 02 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Maltaran, Commoner

Try Deadhouse Gates, Atanvarno. There's no GOTM spoilers in it, and it's a much more understandable book. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 02 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I think there are spoilers, if nothing else in the relationships between characters that develop in GotM. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 02 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Atanvarno, Peralogue

Quote: &quot;Sovin Nai&quot;:2jh7d0rv
I think there are spoilers, if nothing else in the relationships between characters that develop in GotM.[/quote:2jh7d0rv]Bugger. I hate spoilers.

Looks like I'll just have to try to get through GotM again. Once my friend who I lent it to gives it back... view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 03 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by LooseCannon, Peralogue

The last hundred pages in GOTM are absolutely classic. I would recommend slogging through the novel just for the ending if anything. I was as confused as anyone the first time I read the novel, and that was after reading the whole thing, but once you do read the second one and then perhaps reread GOTM it all begins to click and your patience will be rewarded. Something that I find unique with Erikson is his use of extremely powerful characters constantly converging in hotspots in the Malazan world and then massive sorcerous and sword battles taking place. Just when you think you've seen it all out of nowhere pops someone even more powerful. And it all works really well IMHO. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 04 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

SE's books have the feel of military history/detective/fantasy/mythological works. They are quite unique. I too love the explosive chaos, where everything just flies to hell. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 05 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Ilnaulro, Commoner

<!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Ah, yes, I am another avid SE fan...however, I am getting through my backlog of Glen Cook and Paul Kearney but ordered "The Darkness that come before" today <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> So, if this book is as good as everyone says I would imagine I will be around more often bugging you all! view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 06 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Wil, Head Moderator

I guess I'm going to have to go and look at Cook and Kearney, I've been hearing about them more and more lately. Where should I start? view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 06 May 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by LooseCannon, Peralogue

Hawkwood's Voyage is the first book in Kearney's excellent series. I never got into Cook's books after the first one, which I believe is titled Black Company. The series seems like the poor sibling to Erikson's Malazan series. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 01 June 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by The Consult, Candidate

I think the greatest part of the Malazan Books is the ability for you to re-read them several times and still be able to pick up more info each time.

I have read the series through 4 times, and every time there is something that you didn't notice before that gives you a deeper insight into the plot/world etc.... It just leaves you begging for more! view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 06 July 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by drosdelnoch, Subdidact

I think that Consult hit the nail on the head, the fact that you can reread the novels and notice something new each time, I also like the way in which the world is in chaos with each character trying to do the best for their nation as well as the way in which each army operates differently. Really looking forward to the next novel. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 22 August 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Orion_metalhead, Auditor

i keep seeing the book at the bookstore and i always pick it up and i always read the little info in the jacket cover and i never buy it. it sounds great but i never had the urge to buy it. ill probably look on ebay for it cheap that way if i dont liek it i wont get angry at spending 26 dollars.

where can i order the Warrior Prophet from? it seems all of you have read it but i cant even find it anywhere. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 25 August 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Alric, Auditor

Quote: &quot;Orion_metalhead&quot;:105gggm1
i keep seeing the book at the bookstore and i always pick it up and i always read the little info in the jacket cover and i never buy it. it sounds great but i never had the urge to buy it. ill probably look on ebay for it cheap that way if i dont liek it i wont get angry at spending 26 dollars.

where can i order the Warrior Prophet from? it seems all of you have read it but i cant even find it anywhere.[/quote:105gggm1]

Well, I'd definitely suggest picking up Erikson, though I can understand the desire to save some money. Hardcover prices these days are steep. Gardens of the Moon is a very solid, very entertaining fantasy novel with detailed world building and interesting characters. The true reason to buy GotM is to get to books 2 and 3, really 2-5, because those are truly amazing fantasy novels, with engrossing action, captivating characters and emotion enducing scenes.

As for WP, it isn't available in the states yet, but is available, along with all the published Erikson books, through Amazon.ca. The Canadian site has good prices on both books and shipping, just remember that it is in Canadian currency. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 25 August 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

I second the GotM-MT recs. Just started re-reading GotM a night ago and it's better than it was the first two times through (although I liked it both prior times).

As for finding TWP, another option to Amazon.ca and at a similar rate or cheaper is to go to [url:rtidpq7v]http&#58;//www&#46;clarkesworldbooks&#46;com[/url:rtidpq7v] and look there. It's listed for $19 and only $2.50 or so by media mail, $5-6 by Priority (which arrives in 2-3 days usually, depending on where in the country you live - he ships from NJ). view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 26 August 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Orion_metalhead, Auditor

awsome ill check that out. i live in NJ so it shoudnt take long.

EDIT:

Thanks for the link but im really looking for it in Hardcover. I guess ill have to wait. Once again thanks though. ill check amazon view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 26 August 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

If you want it in hardcover, Overlook is scheduled to release it in the US in January 2005. Penguin Canada only has it in tradeback for the time being. I will say that the tradeback is of very high quality. Now what I want is TTT, obviously, and I'll need for it to be signed to complete my collection. I wonder if I can talk Scott into doing that for me? <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 17 November 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Anonymous, Subdidact

If you can, get the Canadian covers.
The US covers are lame.
The Canadian ones are excellent. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 06 December 2004 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Orion_metalhead, Auditor

i finished reading Gardens Of The Moon, it was really good, a bit confusing at a couple spots - mainly because of the huge cast of characters but the story was excellent.

i wish the book had a bigger glossary - it would help alot. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 27 January 2005 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Epitaphs, Candidate

The great thing about message boards? They can remember. It's really pretty cool to see Orion_metalhead's August post about picking up GOTM, and then four months later, read how he bought and read and enjoyed the book. How cool is that?

They best glossary for the Malazan series are the next four books. Trust me. view post


Stephen Erikson's Books posted 17 February 2005 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Faelcind Il Danach, Peralogue

I can't imagine trying to slog through Steven Ericksons prose more then once, my head hurts just thinking about. Like many others I bounced hard off of GOTM. People have told me to give it a second chance but there really wasn't a single thing I like about GOTM, and nothing I have heard of the following books convinces me they are much better. The charecters seemed like D&amp;D charictures, ever one more powerfull then the last, the charecters actions were almost completely random and the prose, Ouch. view post


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