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A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 27 October 2005 in Author Q & AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Esmi, Candidate

Hi Scott,

It seems to me that you have such an indepth idea of Earwa and are always able to answer or extrapolate questions that there should be a proper wiki made to make your world more accessible.

Comments Welcome! (criticisms punishable by law) view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 27 October 2005 in Author Q & AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Wouldn't this site count as a wiki of sorts? What does a wiki need to be 'proper'? view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 28 October 2005 in Author Q & AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Esmi, Candidate

What I mean is that while this site has expansive pages of dialogue full of information about the world of Earwa, an actual wiki would provide a unique reference for long-time readers as well as those new to the books. A wiki would also allow one to type in what they want to know about without having to sift through pages of dialogue or wait days for a posted response to a question. The wiki could serve as a proper resource for all things Earwan. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 28 October 2005 in Author Q & AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Legolas, Commoner

This is not a bad idea, and would certainly be useful for people who want to look up things for theories or so.
And of course the advantage of a wiki is that it doesn't take quite as much work as a real encyclopedia such as the Encyclopedia of Arda or the aSoIaF info on Westeros.org. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 28 January 2006 in Author Q & AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Arwyl, Commoner

I sometimes take notes while reading books with vast worlds or a cast of thousands. I'm currently doing a semi-wiki thing with tPoN on [url:19u2u4zx]http://www.schtuff.com[/url:19u2u4zx]:

[url:19u2u4zx]http://tala.schtuff.com/the_prince_of_nothing[/url:19u2u4zx]

Was this what you had in mind? Although probably something more Wikipedia-like? view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 07 February 2006 in Author Q & AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Very cool Arwyl. You do realize that things are going to keep getting bigger and bigger. Maybe you could recruit some of the world-junkies <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> around here to help! view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 08 February 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Entropic_existence, Moderator

There is already a stub entry for Scott and The Prince of Nothing on wikipedia, perhaps it could be incorporated there? Extending the entry and creating linked pages when necessary. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 14 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by UncleMikey, Commoner

That Guest entry was from me. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 14 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by UncleMikey, Commoner

Quote: &quot;Cu'jara Cinmoi&quot;:3eio083t
Wouldn't this site count as a wiki of sorts? What does a wiki need to be 'proper'?[/quote:3eio083t]

To answer this question -- most Wikis focus on the encylopedic, rather than discussion. There are 'talk' pages associated with any given page where possible edits can be discussed, but the focus of a Wiki is generally on description.

Wikis also allow multiple authors to collaborate on articles easily, rather than just having strings of discussion. Newcomers can see a coherent article rather than having to follow a forum thread.

(Not to poo-poo fora. I'm here, after all <!-- s:-) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:-) --> I'm an old-time BBS junkie. Fora are cool; they're just a different tool for a different job).

The encyclopedic section at the back of TTT is fantastic, but not always expansive. A wiki would allow some topics that didn't get full space there to get articles of their own.

The biggest danger of a wiki, since there is an encyclopedic section in TTT, is plagarism. I would not want a PoN Wiki to become, or even to start with, an unauthorised copy of your work!

I don't have my heart set on it, by any means, but I do have the means to create such a site and get it started, I think. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 15 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Edge of Certainty, Subdidact

Hey, after i finished the series, I started to go through the books looking for minor characters and battles and the terms listed in the TTT glossary and recording where they turn up in the books...I just thought that might be useful if a subject came up that I don't remeber reading it...is that what you guys are talking about?
The idea came when I found my dad's old exhaustive concordance to the Biblbe...and strangely enough the first thing I thought was, &quot;hey, this would be a great idea for the PoN series.&quot;

lol, you might be an R. Scott Bakker fan if... view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 15 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

The biggest danger of a wiki, since there is an encyclopedic section in TTT, is plagarism. I would not want a PoN Wiki to become, or even to start with, an unauthorised copy of your work!


So long as no one is binding them and selling them I'm not sure I would care. I think intellectual property laws should be leaky - especially if it inspires others to be creative in their own right.

What I would like to do, someday, is my own version of the Silmarillion - a big encyclopedic scrap book of all the stuff I've accumulated over the years. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 15 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by UncleMikey, Commoner

Quote: &quot;Cu'jara Cinmoi&quot;:25bgd0k3
So long as no one is binding them and selling them I'm not sure I would care.[/quote:25bgd0k3]

You might not, but your publishers might <!-- s:-D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":-D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:-D --> I don't want to get you in trouble, any more than I want to get me in trouble. After all, if your publishers get annoyed, they might stop publishing your books, and that wouldn't be a good thing for anybody!

That said, the Wiki can be set up with a Creative Commons style license that would, theoretically, limit how information could be reproduced. Enforcement is another kettle of fish altogether.

What I would like to do, someday, is my own version of the Silmarillion - a big encyclopedic scrap book of all the stuff I've accumulated over the years.


Ooooooooooooo.

I guess one question I would have is, is this something you have your heart set on publishing (and thus, being able to make money on -- which you've earned, don't get me wrong!) or would you be interested in using the Wiki, were one to exist, to provide this?

The advantage to the latter is you could start more or less right now (well, in your Copious Spare Time, anyway). The disadvantage is that a Wiki is traditionally editable by anyone, so we'd have to be extra-careful about what edits we allowed to stand for such material if we wanted it to be definitive.

And meanwhile, please allow me a moment to be a fanboy and tell you that you've been consistently responsible for my being late to work the last couple of weeks. I only get one hour, more or less, a day to read -- right before I go to work. I'm half-way through TTT... view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 15 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Ah, who needs employment... <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

Sounds, very interesting, though I think my agent would choke if he heard me say that! The thing is, I'm committed timewise, in a big way, now that I have these contracts for AE. It'll be three years before I have the luxury of considering any other big projects. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 15 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by UncleMikey, Commoner

Quote: &quot;Cu'jara Cinmoi&quot;:plup4vi3
Ah, who needs employment... <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> [/quote:plup4vi3]
Should I ever stop procrastinating, start writing down some of the story ideas in my head, and actually get a book contract, I may well agree with you. Meantime, I need the money to buy books other people write! <!-- s:-D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":-D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:-D -->

Sounds, very interesting, though I think my agent would choke if he heard me say that! The thing is, I'm committed timewise, in a big way, now that I have these contracts for AE. It'll be three years before I have the luxury of considering any other big projects.

That's pretty much what I figured, really. And given a choice, I'd rather have the AE books sooner rather than later <!-- s:-) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:-) -->

At any rate, I think I'm going to see about setting a Wiki on some server space I have, run it up the flapole, and see who salutes...stay tuned, sports fans! view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 15 March 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Definitly send me the link. I recently set up a private wiki for a group I am working with for world development purposes for a shared fantasy/role play setting. The MediWiki engine thst Wikipedia uses is quite easy to set up if you have a MySQL database set up. I think my email is in my profile feel free to send me an email if you need some help getting everything up and running. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 26 June 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by mixuk, Commoner

Just read <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Nothing">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Nothing</a><!-- m -->

I'm having trouble understanding the line &quot;Eärwa is essentially Tolkienesque in its construction, but is considerably darker, and takes its inspiration from different cultures (notably Helenistic Greece and Scythia).&quot;

How is it Tolkienesque? There are only humans, except for the Consult and it's mainly just towns and different kinds of landscape. If by &quot;tolkienesque&quot; you mean, there's land, water, people and towns, then yes.. it is quite correct. But you could say that from anything, right?

Also, I tend to get annoyed by small details done wrong. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 28 June 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Yea I don't think tolkienesque applies either except for maybe the idea of scope (a lived in world, large, etc) so I sort of edited the page. Not sure how good my change was as I did it in 5 seconds but the series is too far removed from the standard fantasy (IMHO) to be described as tolkienesque. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 29 June 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Murrin, Peralogue

Weren't many of the aspects of Scott's world modelled on Tolkien's? The nonmen, sranc, wracu; the history where nonmen began to dwindle away and men arrived from the east.... view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 29 June 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Nice edit Entropic. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 29 June 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Quote: &quot;Murrin&quot;:jzy8d5z7
Weren't many of the aspects of Scott's world modelled on Tolkien's? The nonmen, sranc, wracu; the history where nonmen began to dwindle away and men arrived from the east....[/quote:jzy8d5z7]

The Non-men and Sranc I can buy as being inspired by Tolkien since Non-men are sort of the &quot;elves&quot; if you will and in Tokien's world Orcs were created as imitations of Elves while Sranc in PON are imitations of Non-men. Of course Dragons predate Tolkien altogether.

Obviously pretty much all fantasy literature draws from and owes something to Tolkien, he created the modern genre. However books such as the PON differ so radically from Tolkien's work that describing them as Tolkienesque in my opinion is not warranted, nor is it correct. It definitly would give the wrong impression to someone who is a casual fantasy reader. After all, this isn't Frodo and Sam and a magic ring <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 29 June 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by vercint, Peralogue

Most of what we see onstage in PoN is very different from Tolkein, but some of the backstory is clearly drawn from him. Men arriving from the East, Nonmen and Sranc as Elves and Orcs, for instance. The whole siege of Golgotterath is similar to the siege of Angband in the Silmarillion. A lot of the names, especially the northern ones, seem Tolkeinesque. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 30 June 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

As long as Scott stays away from magic rings and epic quests with &quot;fellowships&quot; I'm not going to start describing it as Tolkienesque although i do see the similarities. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 01 July 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Quote: &quot;Warrior-Poet&quot;:2t0nweef
As long as Scott stays away from magic rings and epic quests with &quot;fellowships&quot; I'm not going to start describing it as Tolkienesque although i do see the similarities.[/quote:2t0nweef]

Exactly, there is a big, big difference between similarities (which most fantasy shares) and being Tolkienesque. Tolkienesque is a word that gets thrown around to label any epic fantasy. It is meant in a good way but it is very misleading and IMHO should only be used when the mood and such in some way reflects Tolkien as well. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 01 July 2006 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Truly you can see more similarities between PoN and other novels like the Dune series than you can with Tolkiens books.

EDIT: I really didn't want to say Herbertesque. view post


A Prince of Nothing Wiki posted 23 July 2008 in Author Q &amp; AA Prince of Nothing Wiki by Arkarrus, Commoner

So I set up a Wiki, over at Wikia. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://princeofnothing.wikia.com">http://princeofnothing.wikia.com</a><!-- m -->
I'm really new at this and looking for all the help/content I can get.

Thanks, Arkarrus view post


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