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three seas militray strenght posted 15 September 2005 in Author Q & Athree seas militray strenght by Cause, Candidate

I am just curious how much of the threas seas military strenght has been expended in the holy wars. I beleive 300 000 real soldeirs and an additional 100 000 rabble took part and at the end of the warrior prophet we have less than a 100 000 soldiers left.

So how much is left. I believe fewer nobles too part than did not so I would think that their is still a sizable portion of the three seas military strenght back home. But Im just curious. view post


three seas militray strenght posted 17 September 2005 in Author Q & Athree seas militray strenght by Nonman, Commoner

I'm fairly certain that less than 30,000 survived the trials of the desert crossing. Mr. Bakker seems to be an avid fan of real-world history as the 100,000 to 20-30,000 troops conversion is about the same as what happened to the Christian armies of the first crusade as they neared the city of Jerusalem.. Generally speaking his 'homage(s)' to real world history aren't quite so in blatant. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> In fact the entire story of the Inrith Crusade is taken whole and completely from real world history.

The Vulgar Crusade = The real life People's Crusade (which shared the same fate)

The Great Names Crusade = The Prince's Crusade (which also was depedent on a great Emperor of a whiddled away Nation (the Byzantine Empire ruled by Alexius I) He also asked the crusaders to sign a document promising the return of all lands.... I could go on.... for more information read up on the Firt Crusade here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade


That said, it is safe to assume that the military strength of the Vulgar and non-Vulgar Crusades are but a small portion of the total military might of the Three Seas area. One must remember that only a small portion of the noble and royal blooded members of each nation heeded the call to Crusade. Allow me to use an example of the Empire of Nansur, the southern most Ketyai nation of the Three Seas.

The prince, nephew to the Emperor, and Exalt-General of the Imperial Armies , Ikurei Conphas appears to be the only 'great name' who departed from the Empire of Nansur to undertake the Inrithi Crusade. Conphas only took three 'columns' of infantry (I'm guessing this is something akin to a Roman legion) which distinguished themselves greatly in several of the early battles of the Crusade.

While these columns can be assumed to represent a significant force it is unlikely that the Eastern and Northern borders of the Empire of Nansure would be left unprotected. It would be the height of stupid to send all of your armies south and allow your northern border to be invaded by an erstwhile ally or worse (and more likely) the Scylvendi barbarians of the Eastern lands to take advantage of the situation and come rampaging across your borders. Not to mention the need to keep troops in the interior portions of the Empire (one mustn't forget the danger of bandits, brigands; rogue nobles and the need to oppress the people.)


I think it’s safe to say that there are still vast military assets throughout the Three Seas area, just as the lion’s share of the military assets of the Crusades remained in Europe. view post


three seas militray strenght posted 17 September 2005 in Author Q &amp; Athree seas militray strenght by Twayleph, Auditor

I'm fairly certain that less than 30,000 survived the trials of the desert crossing.


Actually, Cause is close to the mark. After the fight on the Battleplains, there were more than 250 000 Inirith warriors left. Around 180 000 combatants entered the desert and close to 100 000 survived, whereas almost all of the 120 000 non-combatants following the Holy War died.

It would be the height of stupid to send all of your armies south and allow your northern border to be invaded by an erstwhile ally or worse (and more likely) the Scylvendi barbarians of the Eastern lands to take advantage of the situation and come rampaging across your borders.


I agree that the Nansur would never send all of their armies to the Holy War, but I believe that they sent a sizable fraction of it; after all, the Exalt-General's survival depends on the success of the Holy War and they would never miss an opportunity to take revenge against the Fanim. Concerning the threat of the Scylvendi, isn't that what Kiyuth was for? To ensure that a large fraction of the Imperial Army could be sent away to wage war alongside (and later, against) the Holy War without the Nansurium being left open for the Scylvendi.

Concerning the original question (how much of the Threa-Seas' military strenght has been expended in the Holy War), I'm afraid I don't have a clue. Scott mentioned that the total population of the Three-Seas was around 75 millions, but I have no idea of the civil/military ratio and anyway the number includes Kian, Nilnamesh...I can only hope that there's enough left for the Three-Seas to put up a fight when the Second Apocalypse begins <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


three seas militray strenght posted 14 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; Athree seas militray strenght by Cause, Candidate

Also how much military strenght will the consult. have. I think achamian says the shrank outnumber men 10-1. Though I doubt that number as that would be 7.5 billion and they would not be able to feed themselves. view post


three seas militray strenght posted 19 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; Athree seas militray strenght by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Is it evil for me to actually like to keep people guessing? I think I absolutely have to as far as the Consult is concerned. With the Three Seas, I'd also point out that there's military strength and there's effective military strength, and a fair portion of the latter found their way to the Holy War, but certainly not all. Otherwise, there isn't an actual number I could give you that I wouldn't just be pulling out of my ass. view post


three seas militray strenght posted 19 October 2005 in Author Q &amp; Athree seas militray strenght by Lucimay, Subdidact

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