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Eddings posted 25 July 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by target, Auditor

Hey, i was just wondering if people had any thoughts on any of the Eddings books?

My personal favourite is the Redemption of Althalus with the Belgariad and the Mallorean up there with it as a saga format. Whilst i was entertained by the Elenium and the Tamuli, i never felt any great connection to the characters or the story, yet i still enjoyed them very much. Their latest forrays into the fantasy genre however, have left me a little disappointed as i don't feel they are up to their usual standard.

The Elder Gods is a fairly simple read, with nothing too challenging in it. Whilst still being entertaining reads, i dont feel they are anywhere near as engrossing as their earlier works. Again, the Treasured One left me with no great desire to pick up the next book imediately. For instance, i have just finished reading the Runes of the Earth, Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince and am currently immersed in the engrosing Warrior Prophet, all of which have left me wanting to read further, to complete the story, to find myself once again in those worlds. Yet, with the Dreamers, i haven't really had the same desire. With the great prolifeation of fantasy that has just erupted onto Britain's selves, i found myself eagerly awaiting, with my little cash, the new installments of Harry Potter and the Prince of Nothing, without feeling too much loss when not purchasing Eddings latest, something that i have not felt in a long time.

Anyway, now that i have rambled my views across to everyone, i wondered if anyone felt the same or had different views and insights to express? view post


Eddings posted 26 July 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Alric, Auditor

You might actually be the first person I've ever "met" who has claimed to actually enjoy, let alone prefer, The Redemption of Athulus.

I read the Eddings series quite a while ago... 15 years ago or so. At the time, I quite enjoyed the Belgariad and The Mallorean. My favorite Eddings character is still Sparhawk from El and Tam. I've always characterized Eddings books as light, easy and entertaining. A friend of mine calls them cotton candy... meaning that they are enjoyable but very light and will leave you looking for something a bit more substantial. Great summer reads, I think. view post


Eddings posted 26 July 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by target, Auditor

Yeah, i would agree with that.

I dont know what it was about the Redemption, but i just enjoyed it. I wouldn't say i prefered it over The Belgariad or the Mallorean, but then, they are a different style of writing. Their very nature as a saga means that, as a complete story, they cannot be compared to individual novels as the characters and the story itself has had time to develop over more than one book allowing the reader to develop a stronger emotional attachment. I couldn't really say anything about the individual books within any of the sagas as it has been a long time since i read them. view post


Eddings posted 29 July 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by AjDeath, Didact

I read and enjoyed Eddings a long time ago, including Althalus (the last book by the Eddings's i have rerad). I have since read fantasy and non fantasy that have nade them seem quite trite and boring. Good at the time, but really satndard, re-hash BS. view post


Eddings posted 12 August 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Edge, Peralogue

Eddings is the kind of writer you read when you are starting out reading fantasy. Simple plots, simple characters. Lightweight stuff.

After you have read a few other authors however you realise that his writing is simplistic and very repetitive. Move on to better things. view post


Eddings posted 21 August 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by TheBrucolac, Commoner

Eddings was some of the first fantasy I ever read, back when I was in junior high and high school, along with Piers Anthony's Xanth books. They were a great introduction for me into the world of fantasy, but they are very lite compared to some of the other stuff out there. I attemted some of the Tamuli, but like a poster above, I had a hard time connecting with the characters. I never was able to get too into the "after" books about the Belgariad/Mallorean characters, either. It seems to me that the stuff started going downhill after he started putting his wife's name on the covers. view post


Eddings posted 01 September 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Arkmam, Candidate

First fantasy I read, and I still reread it sometimes (even though I almost know it by heart nowadays). view post


Eddings posted 19 December 2005 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Anonymous, Subdidact

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First fantasy I read, and I still reread it sometimes (even though I almost know it by heart nowadays).[/quote:3qxr7xsw]

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Eddings posted 14 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by gierra, Sorcerer-of-Rank

i never heard of david eddings until a couple months ago. i read the belgariad in about a week and i just loved em. they're hardly comparable to some more epic series' but they're just so fun.

mind you i still constantly read xanth books. they're like a break from everything else. view post


Eddings posted 17 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by neongrey, Peralogue

I have a hard time reading Eddings now, but I used to be quite thrilled with his writing. I was younger.

Thing is, I do feel there's one specific area he's pretty good at, that being character interaction. His plots are, by his own admission, standard. The characters themselves are fairly pedestrian. He's a decent world-builder. But the intraction itself is... god help me, entertaining and readable. view post


Eddings posted 19 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Nikodemus, Commoner

Ehh... Here's another one who thought the Althalus books was among the best of Eddings book which are as said enjoyable but not the best fantasy you can find. view post


Eddings posted 19 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Randal, Auditor

Sophie on the Westeros forum:

I read an Eddings book once. From what I recall, the book can be summed up thus: &quot;Reformed thief achieves nirvana after having sex with his cat&quot;.
It was called 'The Redemption of Althalus&quot;. I don't think 'Althalus' was the cat.


I've read a few of Eddings books a long time ago (okay, not that long a time ago really) and they were quite funny and entertaining. But the writing itself isn't that good, nor is the characterisation and the plots repeat themselves. Nowadays I would never spend time on an Eddings book, nor will I ever re-read one.

As for worldbuilding... well, let's just say that Eddings' non-fiction book on this subject was rates amongst the most hiliarious things I've ever read... unintentionally. It's so contrived it becomes silly.

Edited to fix tags and spelling. view post


Eddings posted 20 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Entropic_existence, Moderator

I never read the Balgariad, the first book by Eddings I read was last year when someone picked up the first book in The Dreamers series for me for christmas to put in my stocking. I read it, and I don't think I could read anything else by him. After being exposed to much deeper and richer epic fantasies prioer to it the lightness and writing style where a real turn off for me I guess. view post


Eddings posted 20 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by neongrey, Peralogue

Quote: &quot;Randal&quot;:1hda2pbr
As for worldbuilding... well, let's just say that Eddings' non-fiction book on this subject was rates amongst the most hiliarious things I've ever read... unintentionally. It's so contrived it becomes silly.[/quote:1hda2pbr]

Oh, it's pure formula, but it's decent. Not good, not great. But I wouldn't call it bad. I've seen bad, and it isn't bad. view post


Eddings posted 20 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Randal, Auditor

The worldbuilding... decent?

All the nations are based on one &quot;trademark&quot;. One is a copy of the Roman empire and has sneaky politics. One is all merchants. One is all noble knights and opressed serfs. And characters from those nations are simply examples of the stereotypes used to establish the nation's character.

Sorry, I call the worldbuilding bad. The books have their positive traits, but worldbuilding is not it. view post


Eddings posted 21 March 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by xhaldur, Candidate

My problem with Eddings is that once you've read one of his series, you have just essentially read all of his series.

Now I know that they are all a little different. But I mean...in each series there's a small band of extraordinary people that fight the ultimate evil.

My favorite series would be his Belgriad. But after that, each of his series that I read I felt like I had just finished. Only the setting and character names had been changed.

There's always a theif, wizard, good fighters, one or two leading female chars, in the band in each of his series. I can't stomach his books anymore, I finish them so quickly...they're all fluff. view post


Eddings posted 22 April 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by DarkMatter, Peralogue

I think Eddings write good books for children, it's a good start into fantasy.

But I also agree a bit with what xhaldur says. view post


Eddings posted 25 April 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Curethan, Didact

Yup, read the Belgarriad when I was about 12 and thought it was great. I still have fond memmories of the characters and situations, however...
As one of the earlier fantasy series that was both popular and enduring, it has been ripped off almost as much as the LotR. And there is no worse perpatrator of this than Mr Eddings himself. I read the Mallorean (that is the sequel series, isn't it) about 10 years after and was stunned that he would bother to write the same series again. (I kept having dreams where the characters would commit suicide after realizing the inanity of their existance.)

And the Redemption of Althalus was just plain horrible. Characters without motivation, and a plot more precictable that a saturday morning cartoon. view post


Eddings posted 01 May 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Primal, Peralogue

His books are alright too view post


Eddings posted 21 June 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Brys, Candidate

I read the Belgariad, the Mallorean and the Elenium when I was about 13 and at the time I mildly enjoyed them, but Eddings is a pretty bad writer. Even if you are willing to ignore the fact that he copies his plots and characters almost exactly from one series to the next, those characters and plots aren't even worth copying, and I haven't seen an original idea in an Eddings novel. The worlds he created were incredibly simplistic and there was no imagination present in it, but it served his purpose. A couple of years ago I read The Elder Gods, and that was one of the worst novels I've ever read. It was absolutely terrible, even by Eddings' usual standards.

The Belgariad and the Elenium might be worth reading as children - though I think Feist is a far more competent author who would fulfill this role much better - and I think the Elenium is the better of the two - more tightly written, a slightly darker, more original tone, but again it's not exactly good. view post


Eddings posted 05 August 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by TheBrucolac, Commoner

Quote: &quot;DarkMatter&quot;:a60afa8n
I think Eddings write good books for children, it's a good start into fantasy.[/quote:a60afa8n]
The Belgariad/Mallorean series (along with Xanth and the Spellsinger books) are what turned me on to fantasy as a genre, when I was 12. They are a great introduction to fantasy for young readers, but as I've grown older, I've gravitated towards more adult fare. I went and read the two prequels about Belgarath and Polgara about 10 years ago, but they didn't captivate me like they did when I was younger. view post


Eddings posted 14 September 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Scel, Candidate

I remember Eddings fondly from my teens...but by the time I was reading the Domes of Fire...he'd lost me. The Belgariad, etc are a great place to start...like your 1st bike...before you get a motorcycle or car.

A friend likes his new series, but I just can't go badck into his realm...the banter leaves me annoyed. view post


Eddings posted 14 September 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by FanManSC, Candidate

I agree, Scel. It seems to me that every character in his books, even a 12 year old, is incredibly witty. Far too much so. view post


Eddings posted 14 September 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Krijates Iryssas, Candidate

Eddings is a good read when you're 14. Once you're passed 16, though, it loses all its charms. Many writers are like that... view post


Eddings posted 14 September 2006 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Harrol, Moderator

That is so true. view post


Eddings posted 01 July 2007 in Literature DiscussionEddings by Chyndonax, Commoner

Quote: &quot;neongrey&quot;:tmcnwn9p
I have a hard time reading Eddings now, but I used to be quite thrilled with his writing. I was younger.

Thing is, I do feel there's one specific area he's pretty good at, that being character interaction. His plots are, by his own admission, standard. The characters themselves are fairly pedestrian. He's a decent world-builder. But the intraction itself is... god help me, entertaining and readable.[/quote:tmcnwn9p]

I feel the same way. Didn't like any of his works except the Belgariad and Mallorean but the characters and their interaction in those two series were awesome. It didn't matter what they did I found them engrossing and entertaining. Some of the best characterization I've read to date.

As for the other criticisms of his work voiced here. Ya, there all true. Still a very enjoyable read just for the characters.

Sorry for reviving a dead thread. Had to lighten the load on my pockets, every little .02 helps. view post


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