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question about achamian? posted 05 July 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by medium, Commoner

Is anybody else relieved that Achamian didn't have a chance to teach Khellus the Gnosis? I'm not saying that I'm afraid of Khellus but I will admit I'm afraid of what he'll become if he learns it. Khellus is doing all of this to kill his father, I know, but what about after? Any hints from the next book?? view post


question about achamian? posted 05 July 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by White Lord, Subdidact

I'm not sure we can still believe he means to kill his father. Actually it's doubtful if he intended to do it from the very beginning. Never take Kellhus at his word. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

And I also think Achamian will wind up teaching him the Gnosis. Although, if you check the scene between him and Kellhus, while he hangs from that tree in Caraskand, you may notice that Kellhus already seems to have some sort of sorcerous power, since they communicate by telepathy. view post


question about achamian? posted 29 July 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Tattooed Hand, Auditor

I thoought that whether that was telepathy was left ambiguous - we could also assume Kelhus is hallucinating and that Akka is out of his mind with emotion over Esmi.

I think it's meant to be ambiguous because we are supose to have this building feeling about some big change but not actually have a handle its actual contours.

And, I agree, WL, no where from Kelhus's point of view do we actually hear that he intends to kill his father. He is suppose to do so, but the conversations he has with his father in his head are more about figuring out what dad is up to. To what he wants to know this is anyone's guess. Kelhus's motivations remain a big mystery. view post


question about achamian? posted 29 July 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Lucimay, Subdidact

I'm only halfway thru Warrior Prophet right now so you may be making references to scenes I haven't read yet but here's where my thinking is going...


there is something vaguely "Haruchi" (if I can make that metaphor) about Kelhus, what I mean, I guess, is that he seems sociopathically set in his course (whatever THAT is!!)...way more so than Cnaiur( whose passion seems to be Kelhus' polar opposite) and I'm fairly certain that he's not gunning for daddy. it's just what he has used to ensnare Cnaiur because he knows that's what Cnaiur is about. he's always concerned with how much power Moenghus has acquired during his 30 years "in the world." and that makes me think there might be some kind of father/son showdown in the next book which may result in Moenghus' death, but I think there are things Kelhus will want to get from Moenghus before that happens.

regarding telepathy...it seems to me that the longer Kelhus is engaged with someone (Cnaiur, Serwe, etc) on a one-on-one basis, the closer his "reading" of them borders on telepathy, it's like he's boring a hole through their skulls into their conciousness which eventually leads to communication.
does that sound whacky? view post


question about achamian? posted 29 July 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Lucimay, Subdidact

oh, and I definately DO think Kelhus will acquire the Gnosis but I'm not sure Achamian will be the source. i agree with Kelhus that Achamian has more power than even Achamian himself knows. maybe that's just wishful thinking but I just don't WANT Achamian to be the source!! hahaha! view post


question about achamian? posted 01 August 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Gordon, Commoner

I think the Cishaurim are mearly Dunyain with a lesser type of sorcery schooled to them. If there is to be a father/son showdown Kellhus will need tthe Gnosis to combine with his "Dunyain" mind to overcome his father. I don't think Kellhus will ever be harmed by a trinket nor fall prey to the wizardry mark of the few. view post


question about achamian? posted 30 August 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Mithfânion, Didact

I thoought that whether that was telepathy was left ambiguous - we could also assume Kelhus is hallucinating and that Akka is out of his mind with emotion over Esmi.

Well it does appear tp be telepathic. It's possible that it derives from the state Kellhus was in but nevertheless, he as a clear communication with Achamian but remember, he also has one with Cnaiur.

Personally I think he will be taught the Gnosis, and I hope it happens as well. Should be very interesting indeed. view post


question about achamian? posted 30 August 2005 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Echoex, Auditor

there is something vaguely "Haruchi" (if I can make that metaphor) about Kelhus, what I mean, I guess, is that he seems sociopathically set in his course


Perhaps, at the beginning. But Kellhus slowly starts to experience human emotion...especially in the second half of WP. He even mourns the death of Serwe as they both hang from the tree in Caraskand. There's a good portion of a chapter dedicated to him mentally 'yelling' at her to wake up. Perhaps the Thousand-fold Thought is a combination of the Logos and emotion -- something the Pragma neglected to teach its monks.

Parallel this to Cnaiur, who slowly begins to feel respect for the Inrithi (specifically Proyas). These characters are truly evolving and I tip my hat to Bakker for the subtleties. view post


question about achamian? posted 15 May 2006 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Quizzms, Commoner

I hope kellhus never gets the gnosis, although i think it is inevitable that he will get it. IMO he has enough power as it is; possessing the gnosis would make him a demi-god view post


question about achamian? posted 30 January 2007 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Purple Library Guy, Commoner

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Well, I sure as heck am. Kellhus is one of the scariest characters I've ever seen. view post


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