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No-God theory, or another theory posted 11 December 2008 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by BobbyR, Commoner

To me, one of the most puzzling items in the PON trilogy are the Mandate nightmare scenes about the No-God. We are told at some point that the No-God was awakened by the Consult through the Tekne, and an important part of the No-God is the Carapace, described as a sarcophagus adorned with a bunch of Chorae. The No-God keeps saying "WHAT DO YOU SEE" as if he is alarmed and curious - not exactly something you'd expect a god to say. Since the No-God is like an artificial creation (via the Tekne), I've been wondering if an important Tekne ingredient to the No-God is a Man or Nonman (living or dead?) who is housed in the Carapace sarcophagus. The question is, who was the original? And if the Consult is looking to reawaken the No-God for the Second Apocalypse, who is the next one?

This leads me to the tantalizing next theory: wouldn't Cnaiur be a great candidate for this? It wasn't at all clear to me that he died at the end of the TTT, in fact I believe he still lives. He'd be the one who understands the Dunyain (and the Aspect-Emperor) the most.

At the very least, given his relationship with the skinspies, I see him become the Consult's general, since it was someone from his now defunct Scylvendi tribe (I can't seem to remember the name!!!) that was the original. And again, he understands the Dunyain and Kellhus the best, and would likely have the best chance of coming up with appropriate tactics in the coming war. view post


No-God theory, or another theory posted 12 December 2008 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by skafadi, Candidate

Huh...
That's not a bad theory. I don't think Cnaiur died either, if Bakker was going to kill him off he would've been explicit about it. The Utemot (that's the tribe) general was named Sathgai, and while he was the Scylvendi general during the Apocalypse-a role that Caniur could easily fill- I don't know if they'd lock Caniur inside a carapace. Personally I have no idea what the No-God is, and I'm not sure I want to know. It's one of those things that works best as a mystery I think. If there was some mundane explanation for it it'd ruin it for me. view post


No-God theory, or another theory posted 19 December 2008 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by Will, Peralogue

I think Cnaiur is dead. Killing Moenghus is the end of his arc. I guess the consult could use him vs. Kellhus, but that's not the sense I got from that last scene. view post


No-God theory, or another theory posted 05 June 2009 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by Ilyich, Commoner

I agree with the first poster. The no-god seems to be a thing of confusion. I think Cnaiur may be alive, but his use in the creation of the no-god will probably involve some use of the Tekne on him.

Then again, if he is still alive, perhaps the consult have him rallying the Scyvlendi to fight for Golgotterath?

I have my own theory though, that perhaps Incariol will be the No-God? Since he is my new favourite character, I am really hoping that this isn't the case.



SPOILER!!!!\/\/\/\/



While he was possessed by the Nonman king, the spirit said a few things regarding a god.

"I dream that I am a God."
"But a hunger... a hunger runs through me... splits me like rotted stone."
"How... could a God hunger?"


However, last we saw of Incariol in the book, he was emerging from Cil-Aujas and he wasn't floating around like something from an exorcism movie anymore. So this, imo, doesn't point at him becoming the No-God (or him being a synthesis with another to create the No-God), but it seems like more of a hint. view post


No-God theory, or another theory posted 12 June 2009 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by Athjeari, Peralogue

I feel that Cnaiur died at the end of TTT.

Even if he didn't die the Cnaiur we knew and loved would be no more. He would be around sixty five years old in the JE. I'm pretty sure that Cnaiur would be feeling the affects of aging.

It appears that the No-God is totally constructed, but constructed out of what? view post


No-God theory, or another theory posted 05 September 2009 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by Callan S., Auditor

I think Cnaiur is probably alive, but his story is ended/dead. The nay(say)er is gone... <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->

With the no god, I'm thinking it's some sort of inverse to the spirit world that Kelhus talks about each soul being an extension of. Taking it as actually existing (Kelhus tends to use the truth as his leverage point) view post


No-God theory, or another theory posted 15 June 2011 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by Ilyich, Commoner

Not sure about Cnaiur being a candidate for the no-god... I always thought it was a combination of the tekne, consult sorcery, and a force from the outside. I had a post on here a long while ago where I noted the similarity between the Nonman wight's words in The Judging Eye and those instances where you get to read what the No-God says.

While he was possessed by the Nonman king, the spirit said a few things regarding a god.

&quot;I dream that I am a God.&quot;
&quot;But a hunger... a hunger runs through me... splits me like rotted stone.&quot;
&quot;How... could a God hunger?&quot;
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No-God theory, or another theory posted 11 September 2011 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]No-God theory, or another theory by Callan S., Auditor

How could a god not hunger with these great meal deals at Mc Donalds!!!1!

Sorry, quiet forum, couldn't resist! view post


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