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R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 30 July 2004 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

Mike, the webmaster over at wotmania and my boss, just posted an interview with R.A. Salvatore this morning. Among a great many things, he had this to say:

How much would you agree or disagree with Scott Bakker's comments on epic fantasy, which we conveniently have quoted directly from our own interview with him here at Wotmania:

"Unfortunately, 'epic fantasy' has even less cache than 'SF' - I would guess it's presently somewhere between 'porn mag' and 'harlequin romance.' Perhaps this will change, and 'epic fantasy' will gain something of the camp cache presently being enjoyed by, for instance, 'space opera' - afterall, the rehabilitation of the marginal and devalued is a very postmodern thing to do. Either way, the thing, it seems to me, is to be wary of the implicit judgments in the terms we use. I find it amusing that the people most likely to complain that SF&F is a 'literary ghetto' are often those most likely to devalue other regions of the barrio, particularly when it's as commercially successful as Jordan's work. It's cool to be an iconoclast, I guess. It makes us feel oh-so individual, when in fact we're simply being aristocratic."

Let me repeat his last two lines: “It's cool to be an iconoclast, I guess. It makes us feel oh-so individual, when in fact we're simply being aristocratic."


Now that’s beautiful. I’ve never met Mr. Baker, nor have I read his work. After reading the entirety of that interview, I’ll have to find some time to remedy that.
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R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 03 August 2004 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Not bad at all. Scott should be tickled. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 11 August 2004 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by JustifiedHeretic, Peralogue

tickled pink? or just plain tickled, cuz we should let his wife handle that hahahah...yah, thats ana amazing thing to ahve said about you, props Scott!! view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 08 March 2005 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Anonymous, Subdidact

I will admit to having read several of Salvatore's books, though it shames me to do so. I have read both of Bakker's books. Salvatore's creations don't hold a candle to Bakker's and they are, in fact, "somewhere between 'porn mag' and 'harlequin romance'" as far as I'm concerned.

Honestly, guys...how does Drizz't Do'Urden compare with any of Bakker's characters? Pretty poorly. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 15 March 2005 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by White Lord, Subdidact

Quote: "amadah":2gcfbejb
I will admit to having read several of Salvatore's books, though it shames me to do so. I have read both of Bakker's books. Salvatore's creations don't hold a candle to Bakker's and they are, in fact, "somewhere between 'porn mag' and 'harlequin romance'" as far as I'm concerned.

Honestly, guys...how does Drizz't Do'Urden compare with any of Bakker's characters? Pretty poorly.[/quote:2gcfbejb]

In complete agreement with you. In fact I only read his books (or any book of that sort) to have a good laugh or two . . . <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 23 March 2005 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Cynadar, Candidate

Funny. My friend refused to start the Prince Of Nothing series because of his new Ice Wind Dale books, and the oh so famous Drizzt (I hope spelled that right...). Now that he's done, I think I can convince him to start the series. Also (from what I've heard by the Bakker fans out here), I'm glad I never read those books. Hope he'll feel like they were crap once he starts The Darkness That Comes Before... view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 23 May 2005 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by SEF, Candidate

I don't even bother with writers of Salvatore's quality, why read the bottom rung when you can read the top rung. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 11 June 2005 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Harrol, Moderator

I agree with everyone who criticizes Salvatore. He can be entertaining yet after reading a couple of his books he becomes predictable and boring. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 01 February 2006 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by RiderOnTheStorm, Candidate

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It's not really fair to compare salvatore's books with bakker's, they work on two different levels-salvatore's books are written (and read) for entertainment, while Bakker's work on a more intellectual level. both of them are doing their jobs and deliver to their fans what they expect.[/quote:1faa937b]
Yes, salvatores readers expect crap and he delivers year after year, book after book. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 03 February 2006 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by xhaldur, Candidate

Heh, I enjoy both authors work. I would say that Salvatore's early work is crap, but each book is better and better. I enjoy the Drizzt books. I'm not ashamed to admit it, they're very entertaining. I do however enjoy Scott's work more. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 04 March 2006 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by arelius19, Commoner

Quote: &quot;RiderOnTheStorm&quot;:20r5cwcl
Quote: &quot;deorigin&quot;:20r5cwcl
It's not really fair to compare salvatore's books with bakker's, they work on two different levels-salvatore's books are written (and read) for entertainment, while Bakker's work on a more intellectual level. both of them are doing their jobs and deliver to their fans what they expect.[/quote:20r5cwcl]
Yes, salvatores readers expect crap and he delivers year after year, book after book.[/quote:20r5cwcl]

im sorry but i'd really have to disagree. Ive read many salvatore books and the bakker books.. theyre two different types of fantasy books.
salvatores books are shallower plot books with a few themes.. but many just action packed stories. bakkers books are much thicker and not as deeply action-ful…

i started reading salvatore in middle school [im 16 now] and i still read them alot..
ive read the bakker books all right after theyve come out and i like them more but they take much more time thought and commitment.

two different authors
two different styles
alot of great stuff

im my opinion of course

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R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 06 September 2006 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Harrol, Moderator

two different authors
two different styles
alot of great stuff

im my opinion of course

remember: to each his own


I agree to each his own. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 07 October 2006 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Moebius, Commoner

Salvatore reads like a poor man's of David Gemmel. The writing itself is mediocre, but what annoys me is how predictable and cliched his characters and plots are.

I am as big a fan of action packed stories as anyone, but I feel like Salvatore never really fully develop his characters (at least in his Drizzt books, the only ones I've read because of word of mouth). When you combine half-baked characters with a sub-standard plot, albeit with a large dose of random action thrown in, what you get is the literary equivalent of a brainless summer action blockbuster.

One thing I will say though, is that his characters ARE likable. I like the archetypes that they represent, despite the fact that they may be camp or cliched. And while I dont intend on BUYING any of his books ever, I would borrow them from the library from time to time. They're easy and fast reading, and for me its like the guilty pleasure of watching shows like, say, the OC. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 10 October 2006 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by Harrol, Moderator

Moebius, Welcome to the board. If I might suggest introducing yourself to everyone in the introduction section. Look forward to hearing more from you later. view post


R.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing posted 29 May 2007 in Interviews and ReviewsR.A. Salvatore mentions Scott in passing by amodman, Commoner

Quote: &quot;xhaldur&quot;:3rkvissi
Heh, I enjoy both authors work. I would say that Salvatore's early work is crap, but each book is better and better. I enjoy the Drizzt books. I'm not ashamed to admit it, they're very entertaining. I do however enjoy Scott's work more.[/quote:3rkvissi]

Actually, in his entire body of Drizzt work, Salvatore's best is The DarkElf Trilogy. You may not agree with that, but the majority of his fans will. Also, his Demon Wars saga is leagues and bounds over his Forgotten Realms stuff. At the level of Bakker? No, but fun books with some interesting characters and storyline. The Highwayman is probably my favorite Salvatore novel. Last I saw he was popping out some garbage &quot;dungeon crawl&quot; FR novel every few months in some series or other. view post


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