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Dont be ashamed (Harry Potter) posted 27 Jul 2004, 14:07 by Kingslayer, Candidate

You know you have a little secret, come on tell us, you like Harry Potter books!!!!! I personally cant wait for Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince!! KS view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 16:07 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

Not ashamed at all. Read and enjoyed all five books. I can think of many worse things for children (and adults) to be reading - like Goodkind ;) view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 17:07 by Grantaire, Moderator

Haha Larry, thanks to you and OF, I've never read Goodkind, so I can't even fully understand why you all hate his books so much :lol: Yes, I like Harry Potter. Not the best books I've ever read, but they're entertaining enough. view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 17:07 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

To be fair, a lot of what I dislike about Goodkind is his bald display of his (to me) odious politics. I'm very much a Democratic Socialist-type of person politically and his right-veering Libertarianism, tainted as it is with Ayn Rand's despicable ideology, is about enough to make me foam at the mouth in rabid anger and disgust. Now you understand why I rarely talk politics at wotmania? view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 17:07 by Grantaire, Moderator

Quite understandable :wink: but it seems that almost no one there likes him, they can't [i:3p3rzu8o]all[/i:3p3rzu8o] be democratic/socialist people like us. Is he just not a very good writer either? view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

If he's anything like his interviews, he's not a very pleasant human being and that matters a lot to readers these days. Somehow, the thought of a site like this existing with Goodkind coming around to discuss philosophy and life and Sabbath is just laughable. view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Grantaire, Moderator

Yeah, seems a large contrast to Scott. Which puts Scott in an even better light :wink: view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Kingslayer, Candidate

This Thread has been offically Highjacked lmao KS view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

Threadjacked - it's easier to type ;) And sorry about that - I did answer saying that I like reading the HP books, so...it's Grantaire's fault! :P view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Orion_metalhead, Auditor

ive read goodkind... his writing isnt bad in my opinion. at times it gets a little repetitive but for the most part his books include alot of great description and are all great stories within themselves. as for Hairy Potter ^_^, i enjoyed all those books. they are fun. view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Grantaire, Moderator

My fault? :roll: I just had to ask about Goodkind :wink: wow...he called 4 or so posts threadjacking, he clearly hasn't seen any of the stuff that happens at wotmania :lol: view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

Let's try not to discuss that. I mean, who really wants to know about the masturbatory posting habits of people there? ;) view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Grantaire, Moderator

Haha. I take it you've all but abandoned the CMB there totally now? Well, OF is a cool enough community of its own :wink: view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 18:07 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

For the most part, yes. As for OF... maybe soon, but more like for a vacation of sorts. I need a week or two of relative quiet to write this blasted paper into a form where I can begin to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I do have high hopes for it, though. Might post some of the ideas I'm exploring in a day or two (once I finish writing the introduction) and see if what people write helps narrow my focus more. But if you want a sneak peek of sorts, read my response in the Karma thread in Q&A. There you can see what I'm wrestling with ;) view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 19:07 by Grantaire, Moderator

Will do..I'd probably give suggestions, if I had any idea what I was talking about :lol: view post


posted 27 Jul 2004, 19:07 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

Sometimes I wonder if I do as well ;) view post


posted 28 Jul 2004, 05:07 by Wil, Head Moderator

Back to the topic :wink: I absoultly love the Harry Potter series. Don't really know why, just good, easy, fun reads. view post


posted 28 Jul 2004, 05:07 by legatus, Auditor

Harry Potter's a guilty pleasure for me too. They're certainly not the type of book that really makes you think, but they are a lot of fun to read nonetheless. Hopefully Harry gets past his whiny, self-important teenerager phase by the next book though ;) Also, the movie adaptations give me an excuse to take my nieces to the theatre now and then. I'm not seeing the movies for myself, of course. It's all for the kids. No really! :P view post


posted 28 Jul 2004, 06:07 by Wil, Head Moderator

Oh, I beleive you! I take my sister, she's only 23... view post


posted 28 Jul 2004, 17:07 by Grantaire, Moderator

Yeah Legatus, I agree. They're not exactly thought-provoking, but they're simply enjoyable enough without that. But the themes and plot on their own are interesting enough. view post


posted 29 Jul 2004, 17:07 by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

I thoroughly enjoy them. However, aside from my enjoyment, I think the really brilliant thing about them is how many kids are reading them that wouldn't touch a book, let alone fantasy, otherwise. They are spawning a new generation of, hopefully, fantasy enthusiasts. view post


posted 30 Jul 2004, 18:07 by drosdelnoch, Subdidact

To be honest with you Ive never read them, I do own a couple due to picking them up at Carboots for resale value at a later date, I do intend to get round to them at some point I suppose but alas the reading pile doth groweth so theyre on a back burner. view post


posted 08 Aug 2004, 10:08 by DarkMatter, Peralogue

I really love the Potter books. They are just fun to read. I even bought Harry Potter and the Philosophers stone four days ago so I can read it again :) I borrowed them from my brothers girlfriend when I first read them, but they broke up so I can't borrow them again, so now I'll have to buy the books so I can read them over and over again. :) view post


posted 11 Aug 2004, 05:08 by steve, Peralogue

I read the first one in Fifth grade, I was instantly hooked and read them all. But now they are boring, I don't think they compare to GRRM, Erikson, or Bakker who are now my favorite authors. view post


posted 11 Aug 2004, 05:08 by JustifiedHeretic, Peralogue

I goto the movies with my girlfriend, they are good, I read all 5 books all together like last year, well not the 5th, i got half way through and couldnt deal with harry being a whiny pissant, plsu i knew who died, ruined the whole thing..lousy pissants! view post


posted 12 Aug 2004, 08:08 by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

You can't even begin to compare Harry Potter and GRRM. One is for children to young adults (even though its fun to read as an older person), while the other is for a more mature, gritty, hardcore fantasy audience. I think anything exposing kids to fantasy and getting them reading is great. view post


posted 22 Aug 2004, 02:08 by Orion_metalhead, Auditor

[quote="steve":pt1ho98o]I read the first one in Fifth grade, I was instantly hooked and read them all. But now they are boring, I don't think they compare to GRRM, Erikson, or Bakker who are now my favorite authors.[/quote:pt1ho98o] Erikson? didnt he write Gardens of the Moon or something like that.... i was thinking of buying it. It looked really good but as of now i have what is it... 5 books i want to get through first.. so yeah, How is it? view post


posted 10 Sep 2004, 20:09 by eowyn1983, Peralogue

:oops: I LOVE the Harry Potter series! I can't help it....and I play the trivia games too.... :oops: And watch the movies....although the only movie I liked was "The Prisoner of Azkaban". view post


posted 24 Sep 2004, 03:09 by Da-krul, Auditor

I read them becasue everyone kept bugging me to read'em since I read fantasy, and I didn't like'em...I didn't hate'em either but it just didn't do it for me, allthough I enjoyed the last two more so then the rest, I'll no doubt read the rest of the series when they eventualy come out as we'll. view post


posted 04 Aug 2005, 20:08 by *42*, Commoner

I like them a lot. I started with Prisoner of Azkaban, to see what the big deal was. I admit it hooked me. It is great that she is getting kids to actually read! gasp! I also like how she is bringing the kids along, making them just a little more mature,(dont belive me, go back and re-read the first one) yet still makes it enjoyable for kids and adults. *gets off soapbox* :) view post


posted 04 Aug 2005, 21:08 by Rich the Great, Candidate

I used to worship the books in my younger days. Still enjoy them now, good easy light reads, a nice change after reading Erikson and Bakker. view post


posted 04 Aug 2005, 21:08 by target, Auditor

I love 'em. It's just an easy read into a fun, escapist world that i enjoy hearing about. Some of it annoys me though. Particularly Rowling's attempts at writing about the experiences of a teeage boy. I don't know about anyone else, but i didnt experience anything like the rollercoaster of hysterics and general pain-in-the-assness that Harry goes through. As far as i'm aware, neither did anyone else i know. It's probably just the attempts of the opposite sex trying to imagine what it is like to go through puberty. And of course, its different for everyone. I have to admit laughing, a [b:11vfyfvu]lot[/b:11vfyfvu] when Rowling stated that when she started writing the series, she didn't know it was a fantasy work. Pratchett shot her down pretty quickly though, brilliant. Apparantly she said she was trying to subvert the genre.....i want to know which one? Because if it was the fantasy genre, how could she have not known her work was fantasy. I suspect she meant the children's writing however, but i wouldn't call that a genre, and as Pratchett said: what did she think she was writing, populating her world with witches, wizards and the like? My favourite book yet was Prisoner of Azkaban, i really enjoyed that, however i fealt let down by the film, especially the Dementors. When they first appear they are really eerie, but i didn't like the way they were depicted as sucking the happiness out of everything. Otherwise, my next favourite was the Half-Blood Prince. Critics thought it wouldnt hold the attention of children, i would disagree, i think it was one of the best yet. And, so as not to ruin the story for anyone who hasn't read it, but oh yes, '[i:11vfyfvu]he's[/i:11vfyfvu] gone! I predicted that from the go. Sorry, i didn't mean to sound smug :D buti hardly ever get that kind of thing right. Anyway, the next film is looking quite good, and i for one cannot wat for the final installment. Apparantly it won't be for a while yet though. Rowling wants to write something other than Harry Potter to prove she can, and become a 'respected' author, rather than a children's author. She should have thought about that before writing such a god series that is [b:11vfyfvu]7[/b:11vfyfvu] books long if you ask me though.... view post


posted 04 Aug 2005, 21:08 by Tol h'Eddes, Auditor

[quote="target":33ap2jrx]I don't know about anyone else, but i didnt experience anything like the rollercoaster of hysterics and general pain-in-the-assness that Harry goes through. [/quote:33ap2jrx] Yeah, but you weren't chased by a half dead wizard who happens to be your parents murderer ;) As for me, I didn't want to read them. Too much hype, too much commercial, I thought. But, everywhere I went, from my friends to my family, everyone talked about it. "What do you think of this? Did you like what happened when..." I was getting tired of not knowing what they talked about. So, I picked up the books and began reading them. This is a good serie. But I probably would have liked it better when I was a kid or if I was one now. As for the last book, Half-Blood Prince, I liked it but thought that it lacked action. And I was proven wrong about who would die; I had gambled on someone else and for another reason... view post


posted 05 Aug 2005, 20:08 by target, Auditor

[quote:30tk1bwf]Yeah, but you weren't chased by a half dead wizard who happens to be your parents murderer[/quote:30tk1bwf] Granted. :D It's not the action that appealed to me, it was that we finally learnt about Tom Riddle and why he is how he is. It was the background that i liked, it creates a fuller, rounded character for Voldemort, rather than a faceless villain that you often find in 'children's' literature. As for the death, the last two, i feal, were fairly obvious, however the one in Goblet of Fire shocked me, i just wasn't expecting it. That being said, i was a little shocked at the one in Half-Blood Prince, mainly because i jus didn't think Rowling would go through with it, although it had to be done. Also, it was done well this time, as oposed to the awful one in Order of the Phoenix. Or so i think at any rate. view post


posted 08 Aug 2005, 11:08 by Tol h'Eddes, Auditor

[color=yellow:zzsotk0c]Beware ! This post may or may not contains spoiler. Parents discretion is advised. [/color:zzsotk0c] [quote="target":zzsotk0c] ... it was that we finally learnt about Tom Riddle and why he is how he is. It was the background that i liked, it creates a fuller, rounded character for Voldemort, rather than a faceless villain ... [/quote:zzsotk0c] Yeah, that was interesting. But didn't you get the impression that Voldemort was evil just for the sake of it ? I mean, what is his overall goal ? World domination ? Put wizards and sorceress under his heel ? From what I read and understood, he was an arrogant kid who liked to hurt people. Has he become evil because of the orphenarium? Is it in his blood? Maybe someone will light me up :) view post


posted 09 Aug 2005, 11:08 by target, Auditor

[quote="Tol h'Eddes":139t9vpb] From what I read and understood, he was an arrogant kid who liked to hurt people. Has he become evil because of the orphenarium? Is it in his blood? Maybe someone will light me up :)[/quote:139t9vpb] Well, i wouldn't think you could really say it was in his blood, mainly because of what we have seen regarding his mother, Merope, she didn't share any of the nasty tendencies his grandfather or uncle had, and his father was a muggle, and apart from considering Merope below his station was not evil either. As for the orphinarium, i'm not certain that this caused his arrogance either, seen as he was always different and a bit of a bully. Te question i believe is was he an arrogant bully because he was different? I think he would have He could be trying to prove something; by becomming the most powerful and feared wizard ever. Although i cannot really see what this would achieve. From his induction into Slytherin we can see that he is very ambitious and cunning, and from his first yea at Hogwarts he appears to have asserted his position as a leader. This could very well be due to his 'deprived' childhood: with few friends and few possessions etc. When he finally found himself at Hogwarts, surrounded by fellow wizards, he was finally in the company of people who considered him normal. All he did then was strive to prove himself, to become the best. I think to some extent he is still trying to do that, and that is all he ever wanted. In splitting himself up into 7 different horcruxes he was doing something that no wizard had done before, and guarrenteeing himself almost eternal life, something else that no one had achieved (with the possible exception of Nicolas Flamel, but does he count as a wizard or alchemist?). Clearly his next challenge is Harry, 'The Boy Who Lived'. Voldemort failed to kill Harry, therefore not being the best. His motivation now revolves around undoing this and once again becomming the most powerful wizard ever to have existed. If he fails in this, he will have failed himself. Or at least these are my thoughts. view post


posted 09 Aug 2005, 22:08 by Tol h'Eddes, Auditor

[quote="target":24wjg9mg]I think he would have He could be trying to prove something; by becomming the most powerful and feared wizard ever. [/quote:24wjg9mg] Maybe he is just a case for a psychiatrist :) He grew resenting the fact that he didn't have parents. And that gave him low esteem. And he couldn't make friends with anybody at the orphanage because they all thought he was a freak. Maybe, because he had low esteem, he was beated frequently by the bully. So, he became a recluse, hating companionship, fearing everyone would hurt him. Until he discovered his powers. And that he could use them to take revenge for everything they had done him. And, because he had no confidence in what he was, learning that he was a sorcerer, he decided to prove everyone that he didn't need anybody, prove them that he was not a loser. And, thus, he became ambitious. Craving power to take revenge on the one who hurted him and to prove everyone that he would be someone strong, powerful and important. Even if everyone had abandonned him... So, in truth, Voldemort is just a little boy who needed to talk but that no one would ever listen. view post


posted 10 Aug 2005, 00:08 by target, Auditor

Sounds about right, i'm not sure about nobody listening to him however. I'm prety sure Dumbledore would have leant an ear, he did seem to take an interest in young Tom. Dumbledore always seemed friendly towards him too, particularly in that he interviewed him concerning the position of DATDA (interview may not be the best word, they met) even after he had started to murder people. Certainly Voldemort is a special case; an interesting ad complex character. What strikes me is the apparant balance between good and evil that appears to be cropping up in many places: namely embrcing the darker side of your character, but with restraint. For example, Harry's use of the DA when he is particularly angry or emotional. Something which can also be observed in Luke Skywalker when confronting Vader. He embraces his emotions to make him more powerful, but he keeps them in control, never fully submitting to them and ultimately mastering himself, the Force and defeating Vader. Imo of course. view post


posted 10 Aug 2005, 21:08 by Tol h'Eddes, Auditor

[quote="target":1dk2bnn7]Sounds about right, i'm not sure about nobody listening to him however. I'm prety sure Dumbledore would have leant an ear, he did seem to take an interest in young Tom.[/quote:1dk2bnn7] I agree with you. Dumbledore would have taken time to hear what You-Know-Who had to say. But, based on my last message, I assumed, as he could have been beaten and laughed at by others, that he would have shut himself from the rest of the world. Resenting what they did him. Losing trust in everyone. Living only to prove them wrong... Or maybe... Maybe, I should get a life :) view post


posted 10 Aug 2005, 22:08 by target, Auditor

Don't be stupid. I have a life, or a sort of life, and i could ramble on about this for years. My housemates and I frequently do. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, and i will freely admit that i can be a bit of a 'geek' but i dont care. I actually think 'geeks' are becomming 'cool' these days. Goodness this world is an odd place. It's just a little too much to ask to be 'normal' isn't it. But this is not the place for a discussion of 'normality'. view post


posted 03 Oct 2005, 18:10 by Jesh, Candidate

Yes its true, I like them too. I cant believe I have to wait about 2 year for the last book. view post


posted 24 Jan 2006, 13:01 by xhaldur, Candidate

Ahh...I hated Harry Potter for the longest time. I still don't love the series, but I enjoy it....after book 3. Books 4,5,6 are good and each book is getting better. As for the anti-goodkind (sword of truth series) feelings here, I'd have to say that he does in fact, more than anything, suck. After book 2, they stopped being good until Faith of the Fallen, then it went back to sucking again. view post


posted 10 Apr 2006, 06:04 by swazond, Commoner

Like Harry Potter. First series i ever read, though, was Xanth. stopped reading it after about ten volumes, apparently it is never-ending. Ready for Harry to kick some ass. view post


posted 15 Apr 2006, 08:04 by Curethan, Didact

I enjoyed the series too. Started off reading it to my son, now I'm quite hooked too. I'm wondering if Master Potter will start experimenting with drugs in vol7 though, I can just imagine Wizard Frat House... (jokes, just jokes - calm down people) As for why is Voldemort evil? His mommy never loved him obv. (Don't go lookin' for deep philisophical exposition in the Harry Potter books is my advice - leave that to Mr Baker et al) view post


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