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Miscellaneous Stuff posted 12 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMiscellaneous Stuff by Gravity Gun, Candidate

Just to be sure: Kellhus is immune to Chorae now, right? But why?

Also, on the number of Srancs: how can there be that many? The book speaks of numbers stretching across the horizon, even in the days of the Apocalypse. Yet I have the impression that: 1. they need food no less than human; 2. they are hunter-gatherers. Human populations began to explode only when we adopted agriculture. As hunter-gatherers there simply isn't enough food to feed a big population.

Bashrags: what do they look like? Due to my infatuation with Warcraft back in the days, I can't seem to shake the image of [url=http://www.battle.net/war3/neutral/ogres.shtml:1xplp984]Ogres[/url:1xplp984] of various sorts whenever I read about Bashrags. Except Bashrags probably don't have two heads. Maybe three?

Mama Anasurimbor: where is she? And more importantly, is she hot? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Alternative theory on why Kellhus so desperately wants Gnosis: Mother's Day is coming up, and he has give Ishual a &quot;call.&quot; If he knows what's good for him.

Zeum: By all indication a large and prosperous nation. How can they be just left out of the story of the second Apocalypse? Judging by map, they have a much better route to Golgoterath by sea -- just hug the coast and head north.

Eanna: So the gates were broken. Were they re-sealed? If not, how come there is no more contact with the original homeland? view post


Miscellaneous Stuff posted 12 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMiscellaneous Stuff by anor277, Didact

Quote: &quot;Gravity Gun&quot;:td4pwkt3
Just to be sure: Kellhus is immune to Chorae now, right? But why?[/quote:td4pwkt3]

I don't know where you got that idea. Kellhus is demonstrably not immune to chorae. When he fought the ranking Cishaurim, he conjured a vortex of debris to protect himself from chorae projectiles; his preternatural reflexes enabled him to grasp a chorae bolt (i.e. the pointy end not but not the trinket end) but he (and Moenghus) are clearly susceptible to them. I grant that in 20 years Kellhus may unravel the Aporos but that remains to be seen.


Also, on the number of Srancs: how can there be that many? The book speaks of numbers stretching across the horizon, even in the days of the Apocalypse. Yet I have the impression that: 1. they need food no less than human; 2. they are hunter-gatherers. Human populations began to explode only when we adopted agriculture. As hunter-gatherers there simply isn't enough food to feed a big population.

I think the Srancs were described as able to eat anything organic. We know they infest the north; there probably remains enough resources to sustain a large population, certainly enough to prevent human resettlement.


Bashrags: what do they look like? Due to my infatuation with Warcraft back in the days, I can't seem to shake the image of [url=http&#58;//www&#46;battle&#46;net/war3/neutral/ogres&#46;shtml:td4pwkt3]Ogres[/url:td4pwkt3] of various sorts whenever I read about Bashrags. Except Bashrags probably don't have two heads. Maybe three?

Trolls, ogres? Your guess is as good as mine. Didn't Seswatha describe the fused bones of a Bashrag somewhere?


Mama Anasurimbor: where is she? And more importantly, is she hot? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Alternative theory on why Kellhus so desperately wants Gnosis: Mother's Day is coming up, and he has give Ishual a &quot;call.&quot; If he knows what's good for him.

Presumably, she's back at Ishual. If she has sorcerous ability, she probably didn't survive the culling after Moenghus sending.


Zeum: By all indication a large and prosperous nation. How can they be just left out of the story of the second Apocalypse? Judging by map, they have a much better route to Golgoterath by sea -- just hug the coast and head north.

They probably won't be left out. Bakker said somewhere that the 2nd apocalypse will involve the whole world.

Eanna: So the gates were broken. Were they re-sealed? If not, how come there is no more contact with the original homeland?

Again, no data. Maybe Earwa was a much richer land than Eanna, and all humans migrated. Maybe the relict human population of Eanna is kept beyond the Pale by Sranc or boundary riders. We don't know at this point view post


Miscellaneous Stuff posted 12 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMiscellaneous Stuff by Gravity Gun, Candidate

Quote: &quot;anor277&quot;:c68u4xwx
...his preternatural reflexes enabled him to grasp a chorae bolt (i.e. the pointy end not but not the trinket end) but he (and Moenghus) are clearly susceptible to them. I grant that in 20 years Kellhus may unravel the Aporos but that remains to be seen.[/quote:c68u4xwx]

Oh that's what it is? I feel pretty stupid now. <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: -->

Yet... This is effectively the same thing, isn't it? There are only two ways to deliver a Chorae: either shoot it from a distance, or up close by treachery/ambush (e.g. Geshrunni vis-a-vis Akka). You can't reach him with an arrow. And up close ambush is useless since he can see through your intention right away.

And it probably won't take him 20 years. After all in just a few weeks he has already done what even the Quya couldn't do -- a three string Cant. I mean, seriously, I almost feel sorry for the Consult for having to go up against an enemy like this. By the time the next book opens, he will be all but indistinguishable from a God, at least insofar as sorcery is concerned.

Another misc point I forgot to bring up in the first post: what's the relationship between Kellhus and Maithanet like now? Kellhus, after all, did kill Maithanet's father. view post


Miscellaneous Stuff posted 13 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMiscellaneous Stuff by anor277, Didact

Just regarding the chorae arrows, it is fairly clear that if there is no contact (between sorceror and trinket) there is no effect. I had the idea that chorae were fixed to existing arrows, bolts etc; it is probably as likely that the chorae arrows have not points or heads but the chorae at the business end of the shaft. The chorae is fixed to the end of the arrow, which does not have a pointy, sharp head (shades of Fiddler's crossbow here).

Anyway, a long thread ago I had the idea that Kellhus would have been safer if he had not learned the Gnosis in that it gave an assassin the one opportunity to mark him with a trinket (cf Moenghus again), whereas a regular assassin, no matter how skilled, would have stood no chance mano a mano. As you say he is probably just as safe as a (chorae vulnerable) sorceror. We will see what he makes of the Gnosis. No doubt he has now got access to a chorae hoard after Shimeh; great opportunities for experiment. view post


Miscellaneous Stuff posted 25 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMiscellaneous Stuff by Cohen, Peralogue

Can you elaborate on the Khellus killing Maithanet's Father, granted I only read TTT once and am rereading TDTCB for the third time, but could you reference it for me so I can find that part? view post


Miscellaneous Stuff posted 25 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMiscellaneous Stuff by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Quote: &quot;Cohen&quot;:1e0e4h84
Can you elaborate on the Khellus killing Maithanet's Father, granted I only read TTT once and am rereading TDTCB for the third time, but could you reference it for me so I can find that part?[/quote:1e0e4h84]

You say Maithanet's father as if its not Kellhus' father as well.

Its pg 360 for me, on the part where he speaks of viramsata. view post


Miscellaneous Stuff posted 28 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMiscellaneous Stuff by anor277, Didact

Quote: &quot;Cohen&quot;:hxg7w3to
Can you elaborate on the Khellus killing Maithanet's Father, granted I only read TTT once and am rereading TDTCB for the third time, but could you reference it for me so I can find that part?[/quote:hxg7w3to]

As per WP's reference. Note that Kellhus despatched his father purely by mundane means - he stuck a knife into him - maybe also he (K) did not how to voice a cant capable of killing his father. Because Moenghus did not die immediately, the assumption is that Kellhus mortally wounded him. Even in such a condition, and blind to boot, Moenghus the Dunyain was far too dangerous to approach lightly. It was left to Cnaiur to deliver the coup de grace; of course Cnauir could handle a chorae.

PS Kudos to WP and the other moderators for removing a heap of spam. view post


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