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Those flip flopping Nansurs... posted 27 March 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThose flip flopping Nansurs... by wmdragon, Commoner

I was confused by the Nansur army's turn around as they closed in on Shimeh. they were getting ready to squash the Holy War, many were fanatically loyal to Conphas, and most of them were reinforcements who had not yet falllen under the Warrior-Prophet's spell. but Saubon shows up, waves his banner in their faces, and they just turn their backs on their Emperor? I just didnt get it, I was expecting some follow up explanation about Saubon usurping power or some carefully orchestrated betrayal, but nothing was there. view post


Those flip flopping Nansurs... posted 27 March 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThose flip flopping Nansurs... by Jamara, Auditor

I think that the Nansuri were more than willing to follow their Emperor in opposition of what they considered a False Prophet. It was the False Prophet who usurped the Holy War and then placed a Scylvendi dog to be their jailor. I think it's easy to see how they could be led to detest and attack the Holy War after that.

But then their Emperor allies himself with an ancient enemy. The Fanim. Enemies that many of these men had fought, whom their fathers had fought, and on back through their lines. I think the army was probably very disgruntled to learn that their new allies were a people they hated worse than the False Prophet.

And then to top it off, Achamian begins decimating their ranks. I can easily see how the Nansur soldiers thought they were being punished for their crimes. Perhaps the False Prophet wasn't a False Prophet and that they were facing damnation for allying with Heathens against a True Prophet.

I think they rode with Saubon for redemption. view post


Those flip flopping Nansurs... posted 28 March 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThose flip flopping Nansurs... by wmdragon, Commoner

Quote: "Jamara":1begxmrq
I think they rode with Saubon for redemption.[/quote:1begxmrq]

yes, agreed. guess I just had trouble with how fast and abruptly it happened, made it a bit unconvincing, but you make very good points. it does seem to reveal a fundamental flaw in the original Ikurei plans to sabotage the Holy War. view post


Those flip flopping Nansurs... posted 28 March 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThose flip flopping Nansurs... by Harrol, Moderator

Some more points. Cnauir did much to hurt Conphas's reputation. He spread rumors amongest the ranks of Conphas crying at night. On two seperate occasions he beat Conphas one publicly the other privately but everyone knew what he did. He was also raped by Cnauir. The Nansur like the Romans would follow any amount of deprivations with the exception of weakness. Cnauir made Conphas look weak. Along with the points that Jamara made led to his demise. Remeber Conpas's last thoughts about his grandmother telling him he was always being measure and if his value ever dropped too low he was done for? Well his value dropped to low so he had no chance to survive Saubon's attack. view post


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