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Achamian and the Ciphrang posted 13 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAchamian and the Ciphrang by Sardaukar, Commoner

I'm a bit confused about what happened between Achamian being carried by the Ciphrang and him waking up under the care of the Shimeh woman and her husband.

He is delirious in the clutches of the demon, has a dream where the No-God calls him by name, then wakes up back on solid ground. There is reference to the Ciphrang bleeding naphtha and spiralling downward...Did it come under AA fire from Weepers and drop him? Not clear. view post


Achamian and the Ciphrang posted 13 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAchamian and the Ciphrang by anor277, Didact

Quote: "Sardaukar":22lrfgy5
I'm a bit confused about what happened between Achamian being carried by the Ciphrang and him waking up under the care of the Shimeh woman and her husband.

He is delirious in the clutches of the demon, has a dream where the No-God calls him by name, then wakes up back on solid ground. There is reference to the Ciphrang bleeding naphtha and spiralling downward...Did it come under AA fire from Weepers and drop him? Not clear.[/quote:22lrfgy5]

As far as I know both the demon and Achamian had suffered some damage at the other's hands. Achamian apparently inflicted enough damage on the demon to drive it off (not before it maimed him). We can attach any significance to Achamian's dreams after he fell unconscious but we can save that for another time. view post


Achamian and the Ciphrang posted 03 May 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAchamian and the Ciphrang by skinspysexbot, Commoner

surely the ciphrang carrying achamian meant that it had gotten the upper hand on him though? view post


Achamian and the Ciphrang posted 04 May 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAchamian and the Ciphrang by anor277, Didact

Quote: "skinspysexbot":351k6472
surely the ciphrang carrying achamian meant that it had gotten the upper hand on him though?[/quote:351k6472]

Just saw this question, and I don't have the books available. I recall that Achamian cast a "skin ward" (whatever that is - presumably it's something to prevent further damage) as the last thing he did to save his skin. It was apparently effective, and further damage inflicted by the demon did not occur. view post


Achamian and the Ciphrang posted 05 May 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAchamian and the Ciphrang by Israfel, Peralogue

anor277 has it right, I believe. Possibly the wounds Achamian inflicted got the demon eventually, or it broke free of the orders it'd been given and ran off elsewhere, dropping Akka in the sea. view post


Achamian and the Ciphrang posted 20 May 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAchamian and the Ciphrang by anor277, Didact

Quote: "Israfel":3iki8cpi
anor277 has it right, I believe. Possibly the wounds Achamian inflicted got the demon eventually, or it broke free of the orders it'd been given and ran off elsewhere, dropping Akka in the sea.[/quote:3iki8cpi]

Again my memory is at fault (I think). I had the idea that the demon popped out one of Achamian's eyes (i.e. Iyokus literally sent out the Ciphrang on an "eye for an eye" mission). I may be wrong; I'll have to consult the books again.

Of course, both Iyokus and Achamian targeted the wrong individual for vengeance. The man who gave the order for Achamian's abduction and Xin's horrible death was not Iyokus but Eleazaras (and of course it was Eleazaras that was responsible for the eyeless predicament of the his spymaster, who had in fact tried to dissuade him (E) from this course of action), and there is an excellently written scene in TTT where Esmenet (as the prophet's consort) spells out the new order's realities to that old bugger Eleazaras - no doubt her own desire to punish Eleazaras for Achamian's and Xin's treatment was thwarted by the necessity to use the School against the Cishaurim.

I don't think the Scarlet Spires will wield much influence in the post conquest Three-Seas. The conquest of Shimeh meant the end of both the Scarlet Spires and the Cishaurim; it did not (so far) encompass the end of the Mandate, and of any new School Kellhus developes. view post


Achamian and the Ciphrang posted 08 August 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAchamian and the Ciphrang by Sean Archer, Commoner

Quote: "Sardaukar":1a8rio27
I'm a bit confused about what happened between Achamian being carried by the Ciphrang and him waking up under the care of the Shimeh woman and her husband.

He is delirious in the clutches of the demon, has a dream where the No-God calls him by name, then wakes up back on solid ground. There is reference to the Ciphrang bleeding naphtha and spiralling downward...Did it come under AA fire from Weepers and drop him? Not clear.[/quote:1a8rio27]


Yes i must admit some confusion here as well. Even though i've read the relevent chapters a couple of times.

The Criphrang was flying "dunkenly"(drunk from the battle with Akka, or the defeat of him?) accross the sky, and accross Shimeh(its guard would have been down if it indeed was giddy from the battle), at this point the demon then started spiraling towards the ground. Now, was the demon assulted by someone while it was over Shimeh? thus being forced to the shores of Meneanor sea or did it land from the damage inflicted by akka? If it were a weeper then surely it would have turned to salt and simply plumeted into Shimeh with aka... Or may be Kellhus had a hand in it? while the demon was above Shimeh

So i see three possiblilties

1 - in the end Iyokus release the demon
2 - It lost its corporeal form due to the damage inflicted by akka and had to return back to the hell it came from
3 - Kellhus aided akka by attaking the demon

Well thats my 2 cents for now, time to go home <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> view post


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