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Kelhus vs ... posted 14 January 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by coobek, Candidate

Kelhus vs Satan

Who would win? Elaborate.

I bet 9-1 for Kelhus since the other one is driven by emotions (kind of).

I know it is a shallow thread. But hey, some things in life need to be. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 17 January 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by TheDarkness, Peralogue

I would go with satan on this one, but would it be one on one or would satan get to use the hosts of hell, because in that case he would def win. A one on one battle would be a little closer, but satan is the post powerful angel and the greatest deceiver greater even than the dunyain. His powers of deception would far outsrip that of hte WP who would surely be lost for what the Truth really is. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 29 January 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Whiskeyjack, Candidate

Cmon on guys. Really... Kellhus vs. Satan? Satan is the most powerful being second to God in all creation (if you believe the mythology). Even if Kellhus could kill him only his earthly avatar would be destroyed and he would still be in hell. Let's not forget the fact that Satan has an army, of demon's at his command as well.

How about Kellhus vs. Elminster, Mordenkainen, or maybe Thoth-Amon? Now these are serious sorceres in there respective world's, and they are all mortal.

Or magic free fight how about against Drizzt?
I await further discussion. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 30 January 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Harrol, Moderator

Kellhus vs Drizzt? Well as Drizzt shows off his fancy sword work Kellhus would show off his inards. Drizzt as a character would not stand a chance. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 31 January 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Whiskeyjack, Candidate

Cmon... You don't think Drizzt, a drow swordmaster, wouldn't stand a chance? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->
I understand that in a literary sense, Bakker is far more mature than Salvatore, and as such his characters and his world, appear much more brutal. But if you transplant either one to the others' world, than I think you get a better picture of just how powerful Drizzt would be in a straight up sword vs. scimitars fight. I mean he has almost a hundred more years of experience. I'm not saying that he would win, but he has a fighting chance. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 31 January 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

I think you must be forgetting Kellhus' fight with Mekeritrig, who has thousands of years of swordfighting experience under his belt and was nearly defeated by Kellhus until he employed his magic so Drizzt wouldn't have much of a chance. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 01 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Whiskeyjack, Candidate

You are right... I did forget.

You guys, <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> can't you remember what it was like reading The Dark Elf Trilogy for the first time, or Icewind Dale, or any of the Drizzt adventures? I know that for most it's been awhile.
I think maybe your passions are inflamed from your current literary adventures. If you guys won't even give Drizzt the slayer of Errtu, the slayer of Iceingdeath and countless others a chance against Kellhus, than who do you think would? view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 01 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

You ask who would stand a chance against Kellhus, Im sure there are more than a few Dunyain who would come close, as well as many many characters from the Dune series such as Duncan Idaho or Muad'Dib or his various children. I know Kellhus isnt invincible Im just saying that from what we have seen of Drizzt he would not be able to handle Kellhus' supreme intellect. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 01 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Whiskeyjack, Candidate

Good call on the Dune characters. I haven't thought of them for awhile. But, no one has tackled the issue of Kellhus' ability as a spell-caster. Obviously he is an excellent swordsman, but that is only one aspect of his power. If anyone reads Steven Erickson, they would obviously pick Quickben as a suitable trial for Kellhus. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 01 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Well we could tackle the issue of Kellhus' ability as a caster but you would have to take into mind that the metaphysics of the sorcery and the metaphysics of other novels are quite different, but if we were to take in to mind both sorcery and magic their would be much less few who could actually defeat or come close to defeating Kellhus. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 02 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Whiskeyjack, Candidate

Ok, lets try and stay away from pointing out the obvious disparities and metaphysical differences between fantasy worlds. We are obviously discussing hypothetical situations, we should just allow ourselves to have a little fun with it. I know it is easy to get bogged down with colliding realities, but please, lets just get down to it and discuss some Kellhus vs.... view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 05 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by TheDarkness, Peralogue

OKoK so what if Satan had both his arms tied behind his back, who would win then! view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 07 February 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Whiskeyjack, Candidate

Satan view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 09 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Gravity Gun, Candidate

Kellhus vs. Satan? Kellhus hands down! I mean think about all the issues Satan must have, what with the teenage rebellion, parental abandonment, insecurity with body-image (those horns, and pitch-fork? That's so 90s!). Put the Prince of Darkness on a couch and give Kellhus 20 minutes to psychoanalyze Him, and Satan will be crying his eyeballs out...

Now Kellhus vs. Indiana Jones -- that will be a one-sided conflict. Kellhus will be standing there brandishing his sword and pontificating about the frailties of mankind, and Harrison Ford will just pull out a revolver and shoot him dead. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 09 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Jamara, Auditor

Kellhus vs. Greatjon Umber (ASOIAF)

Now I know that Greatjon can't do magic, and he isn't this super-freak. But here's how I think the battle would go down. Greatjon raises his huge axe, Kellhus streaks in and easily disembowels him. Greatjon calls him a whore and smashes Kellhus in the head with the axe, drinks a beer, and dies. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 09 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Gravity Gun, Candidate

Ha! Kellhus in Westeros? With all the psychological baggage everybody there carries, Kellhuss can talk his way onto the Iron Throne in a week, if he wants it.

p.s.: an interesting parallel -- skin-spies and Faceless Men. <!-- s:?: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_question.gif" alt=":?:" title="Question" /><!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:!: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_exclaim.gif" alt=":!:" title="Exclamation" /><!-- s:!: --> view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 09 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Jamara, Auditor

Oh yeah, Kellhus would so walk right through Westeros. I think on ly the Eunuch would stand any chance against his manipulations. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 09 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Pshhh the Eunuch would probably help him. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 10 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Gravity Gun, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Jamara&quot;:3szgb7kc
Oh yeah, Kellhus would so walk right through Westeros. I think on ly the Eunuch would stand any chance against his manipulations.[/quote:3szgb7kc]

I doubt it. His ability is disguise and deception -- neither will work against Kelhuss. Well, to be sure, we don't know if anything can work against Kelhuss. We may need to import some kryptonite to get at this guy. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 13 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by anor277, Didact

Still no contest of course, but how about Kellhus versus Tyrion? The little bugger is certainly smart, and he hasn't got much of a face left for Kellhus to read. If Kellhus turned up in Westeros, in defiance of all probability and copyright, the big thrill would be Kellhus showing just how dangerous those lumpen knights actually were. (We've already had a bit of an example there with Syrio and the Faceless Men.) view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 13 April 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

The only person that could probably defeat Kellhus, is someone from the Dune series, whether it be the Bene Gesserit, a mentat, Paul Muad'Dib, or one of his various descendants, in a universe where manipulation is everyone's game and nearly everyone is a super genius he would be doomed view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 25 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Cohen, Peralogue

Oh I got one .......Khellus vs. Maithanet ? oooohh I get chills. We don't even know what he is yet. I imagine he might be a handfull.

Just throwing that out there, for all we know Maithanet could actually be Satan. <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 25 May 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Cohen, Peralogue

Satan=No-God

I know I've probably missed the point of this thread, but I coudn't resist the connection. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 03 August 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Mulliman, Commoner

Quote: &quot;Gravity Gun&quot;:32lw4mas
Kellhus vs. Satan? Kellhus hands down! I mean think about all the issues Satan must have, what with the teenage rebellion, parental abandonment, insecurity with body-image (those horns, and pitch-fork? That's so 90s!). Put the Prince of Darkness on a couch and give Kellhus 20 minutes to psychoanalyze Him, and Satan will be crying his eyeballs out...
[/quote:32lw4mas]

But which Satan are we talking about? My favourite (if you can call it that) Satan is the intelligent kind from the Lucifer and Sandman comics by Neil Gaiman.

Lucifer in that series has domination through intellect as his prime ability. So does Kellhus. Since Lucifer has had multiple man's ages to develop, I would say that Lucifer would win. And obviously Kellhus would become his tool. Too valuable to die. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 04 August 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Curethan, Didact

Kellhus vs Uther Doul. Now that is a match-up that is by no means one-sided. I tend to think that Uther would have the edge, cuz Kellhus has been shown to be occasionally fallible.

@ Kellhus vs Satan -&gt; Kellhus would probly whip out the old Douglas Adams' secret weapon and disprove Satan's existence, causing him to disappear in a puff of logos. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 10 December 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Writer, Candidate

I was going to say Batman, but again Batman has all the insecurities of parental abandonment and the whole dress up as a bat and beat up criminals thing, so Kellhus could work with that pretty easily.
I was also thinking Gandalf could square of against Kellhus pretty easily. I think I read somewhere that he's like an angel or something, so that could make him immune to Kellhus' Dunyain manipulation.
Scary thought, what would Kellhus do with the Ring? <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Would he be ammune to it's evilness or would he go for it and become Supreme Lord of Middle-Earth. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 11 December 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by coobek, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Writer&quot;:3po4sv8e
I was going to say Batman, but again Batman has all the insecurities of parental abandonment and the whole dress up as a bat and beat up criminals thing, so Kellhus could work with that pretty easily.
I was also thinking Gandalf could square of against Kellhus pretty easily. I think I read somewhere that he's like an angel or something, so that could make him immune to Kellhus' Dunyain manipulation.
Scary thought, what would Kellhus do with the Ring? <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Would he be ammune to it's evilness or would he go for it and become Supreme Lord of Middle-Earth.[/quote:3po4sv8e]

Phhhaahh but He would not need a ring. The question is how quickly would he know the words of Valaquenta?


The conditioning would begin within 1 second of him touching the ground. Sauron and 'the darkness which comes before him' would be known in no-time. He would posses the Nazgul with all their weakness. No-one would be spared, no-one save Tom Bombadil of course.


Another interesting dillema is who is unverse greatest swordsman Kelhus or Master Yoda? view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 12 December 2007 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Writer, Candidate

[quote=&quot;coobek
Phhhaahh but He would not need a ring. The question is how quickly would he know the words of Valaquenta?


The conditioning would begin within 1 second of him touching the ground. Sauron and 'the darkness which comes before him' would be known in no-time. He would posses the Nazgul with all their weakness. No-one would be spared, no-one save Tom Bombadil of course.


Another interesting dillema is who is unverse greatest swordsman Kelhus or Master Yoda?



I don't know about Yoda vrs Kellhus, but I have to disagree with you on the Nazgul. I don't think they have souls, so they can be classified as the same thing as Skinspys, just alot more powerful and advanced. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 19 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by theCarrock, Commoner

Took me awhile to think up this one, but when I saw the subject here I just had to come up with my own champion. Refering to Lanik Mueller towards the end of the book 'A Planet Called Treason' by Orson Scott Card. Odds are no one has any idea who or what I'm talking about. So read the freaking book. It's worth it. I think this would be a good match up and it's kind of a toss up on how their various powers and abilities would match up. I would have to pick Lanik. view post


Kelhus vs ... posted 21 January 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKelhus vs ... by Shell, Peralogue

I woke up in the middle of the night and came up with:

Kellhus vs Karsa Orlong (Steven Erikson). He is big, he is a badass, and is pissed off that the Chained God is trying to manipulate him, so maybe he would be immune to Kellhus. Then I remembered that he doesn't have any sorcery, but maybe being Knight in High House of Chains would confer some sorcerous immunity.

Kellhus vs Anomander Rake. Thousands of years old, sorcerous ability, Knight of High House Dark, and has a sword that he knows how to use, and that traps your soul forever. If Kellhus got too close, he could probably use a warren to come out behind him... view post


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