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Akka posted 10 March 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAkka by ceti, Commoner

I agree that Akka is the moral foundation of the books.

Kellhus has become something more, a prophet that cannot heal but can manipulate and destroy, so perhaps the inverse of Inri Sejenus. He may even be the literal harbinger, the No-God himself. This was always my feeling as a final twist for the end, as the entire progress of the Holy War was marked by extreme bloodshed that thinned the ranks of both the Inrithi and Fanim (and thus counterproductive if he was destined to rally humanity against the No-God and the rapidly multiplying Sranc).

Since Akka writes the compendium on the first holy war, we know he survives till the end of the first trilogy, and perhaps like Seswatha, beyond the second apocalypse. However, at the beginning of chapter 14, we see Akka unable to write certain details for fear of summary execution. That indicates he is writing before the apocalypse, perhaps as the Three Seas becomes a police state of sorts under its dictatorial Aspect-Emperor. Echoes of [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_Messiah:11yipir7]Dune Messiah[/url:11yipir7]? view post


Akka posted 17 March 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAkka by hd25, Commoner

I just read the third part to the end. And i must say that i am not happy with this end. There are still so much questions open. to where akka is goning? what he intend to do now? what will happen with all other people?how is it with the second apocalyse going on? will akka find someone better fitting to him than esmi? this is my appeal to the author, please write one book more and answer all quesions and let everything come to an happy end. <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> view post


Akka posted 17 March 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAkka by Nerdanel, Peralogue

hd25, there will be several more books. The next one is called The Shortest Path. It is book one of the Aspect-Emperor. view post


Akka posted 18 March 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAkka by Harrol, Moderator

I doubt those books will have a happy ending though <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> view post


Akka posted 18 March 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAkka by internalogic, Commoner

I agree too that Achamian is the moral (how was it put?) foundation of the series.

I don't see this as the kind of series in which you really judge people as simply good or bad.

The whole concept of The Darkness That Comes Before. That is the source of people's thoughts and motivations. But it's dark. That, in a sense, means that no one is truly responsible for his/her actions. It's very much like being a child.

The 'awakened' become aware of the darkness. But even the awakened have not illuminated the darkness. That's what the Dunyain are trying to do. Completely illuminate the darkness that comes before.

That's not an ending, it's a beginning. One can begin to make conscious choices. Supposedly, anyway.

Most people follow Kellhus not by choice, but because Kellhus places himself firmly in their 'Darkness that Comes Before'.

Ah! I am just seeing another connection that I'd missed. The Sorceric Rite of Compulsion. They keep explaining that it's not that you're actually compelled from the outside, it's that you actually want to do what the sorcerer is compelling you to do. You feel no separation from what you're being manipulated to do or say.

That *too* is using The Darkness that Comes Before. Thus a sorcerer who uses the rite of Compulsion is doing pretty a sorceric version of what Kellhus does.

Anyway, my point is just that Achamian has seen through Kellhus' compulsion. Have you noticed that whenever someone does that (first Cnaiur and then Kellhus) they seem to stop being his pal?

I don't think Akka has gone to the Consult at all. He just wants to live on his own terms, and his world (and therefore his terms) just got a whole lot bigger. He's found himself in new ways. I think he's on his way to becoming an independent player in the game. view post


Akka posted 18 March 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAkka by internalogic, Commoner

I agree too that Achamian is the moral (how was it put?) foundation of the series.

I don't see this as the kind of series in which you really judge people as simply good or bad.

Take the whole concept of The Darkness That Comes Before. That is the source of people's thoughts and motivations. But it's dark. That, in a sense, means that no one is truly responsible for his/her actions. It's very much like being a child. You have desires, thoughts, and intentions but very little insight into their origins. Compared to the more awakened, the less awakened are as children.

The 'awakened' become aware of the darkness. But even the awakened have not illuminated the darkness. That's what the Dunyain are trying to do. Completely illuminate the darkness that comes before. (They're pretty good at it as long as they're in a controlled environment. But now that they're starting to venture out, they might have to revisit a few things.)

So awakeing is not an ending, it's a beginning. One can begin to make conscious choices. Supposedly, anyway.

Most people follow Kellhus not by choice, but because Kellhus places himself firmly in their 'Darkness that Comes Before'.

Ah! I am just seeing another connection that I'd missed. The Sorceric Rite of Compulsion. They keep explaining that it's not that you're compelled from the outside, it's that you actually feel that you want to do what the sorcerer is compelling you to do. You feel no separation from what you're being manipulated to do or say.

That *too* is using The Darkness that Comes Before. Thus a sorcerer who uses the rite of Compulsion is doing pretty a sorceric version of what Kellhus does.

Anyway, my point is just that Achamian has seen through Kellhus' compulsion. Have you noticed that whenever someone does that (first Cnaiur and then Kellhus) they seem to stop being his pal?

I don't think Akka has gone to the Consult at all. He just wants to live on his own terms, and his world (and therefore his terms) just got a whole lot bigger. He's found himself in new ways. I think he's on his way to becoming an independent player in the game.

Sorry for these wordy posts. I'm actually shaving them down mentally. view post


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