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The LOTR Films posted 21 Mar 2004, 04:03 by Malarion, Candidate

Ok, just wondered what the views of the people on this forum were towards these films (and Scott's, if he's reading). Personally I was pleasantly surprised. The first film blew me away completely. I felt a lump in my throat by the care I saw put into this film. Fantasy (which means everything to me) was finally getting the respect it deserved. Ok, I can hear the complaints. The story wandered from the book etc. But still...think how it could have been. Iain McKellan was absolutely amazing as Gangalf. I cannot image that character now without his face. It was perfect. Saruman? Lee was immense. So many good actors playing the part, not the actor (aka Stallone etc). My only real anger were this (and it revealed Jackson's abilities - great film maker but victim of poor storytelling - and these weaknesses plagued the book too). It suffered from a lack of a strong villian. The Witch-King was very much underplayed. The scene when he rises from behind the dead Fell Beast was amazing...but too late. We'd not gotten to know this monster, so we never cared about his death. In fact, the entire Wraith thing was pretty badly handled (and in some ways, I blam JRR himself). The search-light Sauron was fuckin annoying. Legolas pissed me off from the start. All his over-the-top scene were off putting. Still, my favourite movies of alll time. Gandalf was awesome. Gollum was mind blowing. The imagery took my breath. etc What did you all think? view post

posted 07 Apr 2004, 16:04 by Elfstone4Evenstar, Commoner

Amazing, Fantastic, Brilliant, Excellent, Exceptional, Glorious, Illustrious, Magnificent, Outstanding, Splendid, Superb .... Need I go on? :wink: view post

posted 07 Apr 2004, 16:04 by Replay, Auditor

I liked the first film, but the other two did nothing for me. Whilst i can see that they did a fairly good job with them, i think the director just overplayed some of the scenes too much. There were just too many cheesy emotional moments in them for my taste. Plus some of his changes were a bit dubious. He would have done better sticking closer to the book in some parts. view post

posted 07 Apr 2004, 17:04 by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

As a standalond cinematic experience, I think they were excellent. For me, they were the first fantasy films which did not feel like fantasy but like medieval history. As they relate to the books, there is no comparison. view post

posted 11 Apr 2004, 12:04 by Edge, Peralogue

Loved the movies. Thought RotK was the best. Was disappointed about Saruman being cut though. Can't understand how Jackson could not have trimmed five minutes from somewhere else so that he could have been included. We will have to wait until the extended edition comes out to see if it was justified. view post

posted 07 Jun 2004, 01:06 by LooseCannon, Peralogue

Well the ROTK is on DVD now and I am enjoying it more now that I have seen it a few times. The last charge of Theoden still puts shivers down my spine. What an amazing scene. Only disappointed that there was no preview for the extended edition. view post

posted 08 Jun 2004, 00:06 by Loof, Peralogue

I liked them alot, and in many ways think they are better then the books *ducks from the horrible flaming* since i dont like the books much mainly because I think tolkiens storytelling is lacking in many parts of the books and the conversion to a movie forced cutting many of the parts that draged in the books. Also the mixing up of the parts of TTT and ROTK so that we alternate between the two parties of the fellowship improved the flow of the story immensly. Other things in the films irritated me since they wheren't from the books and didn't add anything to the story, the two main examples are Aragons mini-Gandalf when he falls of the cliff in TTT and faramirs personality shift so they could show of parts of Gondor already in TTT. view post

posted 08 Jun 2004, 04:06 by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

TTT! The second book of Tolkien and third (in thery) of Bakker. That is interesting... view post

posted 06 Jul 2004, 12:07 by drosdelnoch, Subdidact

I enjoyed the films and found out recently that Daniel Day Lewis was initially intended for he role of Aragorn. Mind you dont know if he'd have pulled it off, what with his age. lol Still have to say Viggo did a damn fine job. Did however get annoyed by Sam, just didnt seem right for the part. Ian Mac did a great job with Gandalf and the scenes with Chris Lee I thought were perhaps some of the best in the films. Other than that I thought that the cast were very well done and would also like to give special mention to the guy who played the dwarf (Rhys Davies as I thought that he was a cracking character with the humour in the dark moments) and Andy Serkis for his wonderful portrayal of Gollum. :) view post

posted 06 Jul 2004, 22:07 by LooseCannon, Peralogue

Well I never heard about Daniel Day Lewis (big fan of his though), but I do know for the first few days of filming they had Stewart Townsend (the guy from Queen of the Damned) cast as Aragorn and they had to get rid of him because he was too young for the role. Ian Mackellan and Chris Lee were both amazing. Ian Mackellan made the entire first movie a classic, rather than just great. Can't wait to see Saruman's deleted scene in the EE later this year! view post

posted 07 Jul 2004, 02:07 by drosdelnoch, Subdidact

Im looking forward to quite a lot of deleted scenes, strange that the Gandalf battle against the Witch King was deleted from the film but stayed in the game and the advert. view post

posted 14 Jul 2004, 16:07 by anor277, Didact

Only vaguely on topic of the LoTR films (which I intensely disliked), did anyone see the episode of “Dead Ringers”, a comedy programme on BBC television, in which actors Saruman and Wormtongue are having a conversation and Wormtongue asks Saruman if he was disappointed that his plans for vengeance were cut out of the end of the film. Saruman says no because all he had planned to do was to “crawl in a hole and die”!. Anyway on the DVD version what additions were made to the film? view post

posted 20 Jul 2004, 19:07 by drosdelnoch, Subdidact

Not too sure whats being added although I have heard that Sarumans raising of the shire is going to be added. Yep watch dead ringers quite a lot as I like jon Colshaw (sp?), there was also a sketch with Gandalf getting smited by Saruman and keeps coming back as different colours, saying that he had his dulux colour chart. lol also they had one with there being a love story with gandalf and saruman sort of film skit, was really funny. view post

posted 10 Sep 2004, 20:09 by eowyn1983, Peralogue

Loved the first one, was disappointed with the second one, and of course adored the third one. I didn't know they were going to add the scouring of the Shire to the extended edition. I thought they hadn't filmed it, but if that's the case that's great!!!! I know that they're also going to add the Houses of Healing scene (Eowyn & Faramir) & quite a few others. It's going to be a marathon of an extended edition! :D view post

posted 01 Oct 2004, 01:10 by neongrey, Peralogue

Would it be a sin for me to say I sat through about half of ROTK wishing it would just be over soon? view post

posted 02 Oct 2004, 21:10 by Ssalamanderr, Commoner

I thought the movies were very well done. Not even close to as good as the books of course, but I really didn't expect them to be. There were some things that I hated though: The love story between Aaragorn and Arwin. It was implied in the books, but I feel like it was just added in for the sake of having a love story. Every movie needs a love story right? Legolas... He's just too over the top in the movies. He's like Superman. I mean, he slides down the stairs on a shield while killing several orcs and then flips the shield up to impale another one. I HATED that part. I also disliked the part where he kills the Oliphant, although it was somewhat redeemed by Gimli's comment. (That still only counts as one!). which brings me to my next gripe. Gimli... Gimli was interesting in the books. In the movie he's shoved to the side and used as comedy relief. Most of his jokes are quite funny. But I hate how they took a great character and turned it into the "warrior who's not quite as good as the elf, and is also kind of fat and gets tired easily." The rest of the characters were awesome though. I especially liked Gandalf. One of my favourite scenes is the duel between him and Saruman. I like how instead of flinging fireballs and things they are flinging each other. Magic doesn't have to be flashy. view post

posted 04 Oct 2004, 17:10 by tellner, Peralogue

[quote="drosdelnoch":258z7d86]Not too sure whats being added although I have heard that Sarumans raising of the shire is going to be added..[/quote:258z7d86] I recall several statements from Peter Jackson et al about the fact that they didn't film the scouring of the Shire. He didn't like the double climax. view post

posted 04 Oct 2004, 18:10 by neongrey, Peralogue

I swear, I'd never thought I'd ever support cutting material in a book-based movie, but if ROTK had been any longer, I'd have cried. I felt it [i:4wnheohk]really[/i:4wnheohk] dragged near the end, the last forty-five minutes or so. Was yawning as Frodo and Sam clung to the rock. Saying to myself, 'Okay, you can end it here.' I wonder what I'd think of the books now... haven't read them in years. view post

posted 14 Oct 2004, 10:10 by mulch, Commoner

I thought that the Theatrical versions were good but so far the extended versions have been great. My initial dissapointments in the Treatrical version of the TT was thrown out the window with the extended version. Though I will agree with some of the points raised here and state that the ending of ROTK was slushy, over-extended and felt incomplete. Great films though! :D view post

posted 16 Feb 2005, 14:02 by Echoex, Auditor

In retrospect, my favourite character was Theoden. He was the only supporting character who remained true to his human abilities and instincts. Someone posts that his last charge sends shivers. I agree. Every word that man uttered inspired me to war. "Dark have been my dreams of late." Gandalf was great, too, for reasons too obvious to mention. I'm surprised no one mentioned Treebeard. Rhys Davies (Gimli) supplied his voice. If I was a walking tree, that's exactly how I would sound. Eowyn (Miranda Otto): SMOKIN' hot. Especially in TT during the march to Helm's Deep. Something about her set my loins on fire. Just call me Balrog balls. view post

posted 25 Feb 2005, 15:02 by sukoudo, Commoner

I've just recently bought all three videos (yes, I'm a little under-privileged... :cry: ), and I've been watching them over and over again. I haven't read the books, though I've been trying to. I find myself falling asleep when I try to read the books. But anyways, I love the films for their beauty, and stunning performance by all the actors. Whether or not Gimli was used for comical relief, and Legolas performed stunts that no living person could ever actually do (may I point out the attack on the people of Rohan on their journey to Helms Deep? The way he swung up onto the horse was impossible! If he'd gone around the OTHER way I could believe it....), but I'm straying from my point. Despite the changes and diversions from the books, I think every actor in these films deserves at least a standing ovation for their performances. I could believe that they were the characters they played, and not just a bunch of actors playing their parts. For this, I truly love the films. I also want to draw attention to the soundtrack. It was haunting, uplifting, even depressing at times, but it was the BEST soundtrack I've ever heard! And, I must say, that I really love Pippin's singing voice. I'm a sucker for a Hobbit that can sing. :wink: Well, that's my input! Thanks for listening to my drivel! ~Meg view post

posted 09 Mar 2005, 21:03 by Hellscythe, Auditor

I too enjoyed the soundtrack. I especially like, i believe it was number seven, Ride of the Rohirrim. Thjat song was impressive. It's like, if you close your eyes, you could see the Riders of Rohan charging onto the Pelennor Fields...amazing view post


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