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Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Mog-Pharau, Peralogue

It occurred to me as I was reading that the Inchoroi might not represent an entire species, but an exiled portion of one. Perhaps their brethren on whatever world they come from were as disgusted with them as the Earwans are. That would suggest an "Ark as colony ship" idea, but the problem with that is that the Ark crashed and killed 99% of the Inchoroi on board, not exactly a desirable design feature in a colony ship. I hope this is an original idea, and not something I gleaned from TTT. I'm too tired right now to flip back through the book and look for myself. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

One thing I don't understand very well is why it is crucial that the Inchoroi kill Men to close the universe. There are at least two planets where life evolved, what about more? Does the conquest of Earwa represent the final stop of an eons-long war against every intelligent species in the cosmos, perhaps starting with their own (those who didn't agree with their philosophy)?

I originally posted this as a reply in the Author Q&amp;A section, and it doesn't really belong here because it's simply rampant speculation, but it also contains what is possibly a TTT spoiler regarding the motivations of the Inchoroi's war against Men. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Kingmanor, Candidate

It is crucial the the Inchoroi seal the world because they understand the sins that they have committed leaves them with no possibility of redemption in the Outside. They will never get to Earwa's version of Heaven. But rather than go to Hell, they try to cut off ALL access completely, so they will not be damned.

And yes I would love to know more about where the Inchoroi originally came from. The Nonmen called it the Ark of the Skies, but it didn't just appear, it came from somewhere, probably another planet. What was it like there? Why did they leave? (Perhaps we could get a book series about that world ending with the Inchoroi leaving) Did most of the casualties happen as a direct result of the crash, or was there perhaps some infighting during the ship's voyage?

So much we have yet to know. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Mog-Pharau, Peralogue

Right, I know why they want to do it, but I don't know what is so special about Men that killing them will seal the universe. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Kingmanor, Candidate

Achamian explained that Men are the gateways thru which the Gods act on this world, which he exemplified by punching holes in a piece of paper to represent the gateways. I'm not sure why only Men tho, it may be Nonmen too (which would be why the Inchoroi started the war with them in the first place), especially because they can use sorcery.

And why do the Inchoroi only need to exterminate "enough" of the population to seal the world? I would think there would still be some connection to the Outside as long as there is one Man left alive. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by zarathustra, Peralogue

Thats a really cool design and signature Mog.

I think you may be getting confused between the void i.e. the universe and the outside which is the spiritual realm. The outside is the one that the Inchori want to seal off by killing a certian number of men (a critical mass?). view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Mog-Pharau, Peralogue

Zarathustra and Kingmanor,

You both touch on my question. Maybe I really should post this in the Author Q&amp;A forum, though I doubt it will get a straight answer <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

The Consult is said to be attempting to seal off "the world" from the Outside, though I think we can safely substitute "the universe" for "the world," because it doesn't seem to make much sense on the surface of it that Earwa is somehow separate from the rest of the universe vis a vis its connection to the Outside. However, I don't discount the possibility that Bakker will make it make sense eventually.

I remember the water/paper scene. The question is, what is it that makes Men so special when it comes to linking the world to the Outside? Maybe nothing, maybe the Inchoroi have destroyed or nearly destroyed every other intelligent species in the universe. Nonmen sure don't seem very numerous. Then again, maybe this is another Tolkien parallel, with the immortal elves being spiritually distinct from the Men, whose ultimate destiny was unknown.

I don't have a very hard time believing in a critical density of humans necessary to maintain some kind of active link between the world and the Outside, sort of like a spiritual Schwarzchild radius. However, at the end of PoN I am not nearly as convinced of the existence of salvation or damnation as Kellhus (and presumably the Consult) are. Maybe that's the idea.

Thanks for the compliment, Z, by the way. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Twayleph, Auditor

The question is, what is it that makes Men so special when it comes to linking the world to the Outside?


I'd say the fact that they have souls. Scott already said "only the rare animal on Eärwa grows a soul". In this case, the implication is that on Eärwa only Men and Nonmen had a soul, therefore only they counted when linking the world to the Outside. For that matter, maybe even the Inchoroi did, although perhaps their souls are too dirty for that <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

As for whether the Consult's business is sealing Eärwa or sealing the universe containing the planet on which Eärwa is located, good question. I think that the Outside's influence is restricted to Eärwa, since it is directly fueled by the number of souls on the world. As you get farther and farther away from the planet, the influence of the Outside would diminish until it becomes irrelevant. Otherwise, any single planet with enough souls would be enough to bathe the entire universe in the Outside's influence, and that doesn't seem right. It would make the Consult's job impossible as long as there is even a single inhabited planet apart from Eärwa. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by unJon, Auditor

I guess my thoughts on this subject were that the Outside agencies were gods and not Gods (if you see what I mean). That they were tied to Earwa and only had power over those who lived on the planet. And that there were other Outside agencies for other planets that could not affect what happens on Earwa. Maybe because the Void between planets is large and uninhabited by souls so that the gods of other planets can't break through. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 17 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Mog-Pharau, Peralogue

That's the heart of my question. I understand the soul issue, and am not suggesting that the lesser animals of Earwa and beyond have any bearing on the world's relationship to the Outside. I was posing the question of whether other intelligent life in the universe--the Inchoroi or their perhaps annihilated brethren included--bears on the issue of Earwa's closure from the Outside. If the universe as a whole was contiguous with the Outside, that doesn't necessarily imply that it would be teeming with intelligent life, as ours doesn't seem to be. If the universe/Outside boundary is confined to Earwa, hwo would the Inchoroi have even known to come to Earwa, or for that matter even known they were damned?

I suppose this is an interesting question in its own right. How does the consult "know" what it knows about its own damnation? Is this simply a groundless belief? What evidence have we seen so far for the reality of damnation? It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that the Consult is just mistaken, as Scott has stated that they are degenerate (not in a moral sense, but in a sense of having once been greater than they are now). Did they come to Earwa "innocent" in a way of their "sins," and get converted by the Tusk? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 18 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Classic, Commoner

Maybe they traveled to Earwa because they felt the Outside from accross the galaxy, felt the pull of damnation. Like a light in another room, they went to turn it off, to blot it out. What happens when the clouds cover enough stars? You can't see the sky. The Inchoroi wouldn't have to blot out every star, just enough, so that they Outside wouldn't shine on them anymore. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 18 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Just a few pointers and observations to toss into the discussion:

1) There is a distinction between the Inchoroi and the Consult. Originally there were more than the two remaining Inchoroi who came to Earwa, but between the Cuno-Inchoroi wars and likely the First Apocalypse there are only the two remaining. The Consult grew out of a Gnostic School wh were led to Golgotterath (where it was sealed) by Mekeretrig. They studied under the remaining Inchoroi, and became the Consult.

2) It is not intelligent life that provided an access point to Earwa by Agencies of the Outside, it is creatures with a Soul. So far there are only three races that all have souls: Men, Non-Men, and Inchoroi (they wouldn't be concerned with damnation and redemption if they were soulless) Wracu, Sranc, etc do not have souls. Only one skin-spy was ever created with a Soul, and thus capable of working Sorcery. It of course infiltrated the Mandate <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

As for the rest, why the Inchoroi came to Earwa, the relationship between the Outside and the rest of the universe, etc... I dunno. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 21 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Inner_visions, Candidate

I enjoy SF as much as the next guy, but the way Bakker was describing it always seemed so otherwordly and spiritual to me. I never even considered it to be how our universe is made, I thought of it as singularity. Like how we thought the world was in the Bible, just there by itself.

Like the way Final Fantasy 9 was, the souls circulating and keeping the planet's 'life' going. Like a natural cycle between ONLY the Outside and Earwa. The only book that I've read with something kind of like the visual images I'm getting is "His Dark Materials" and the fusion on many worlds into one space?

In regards to the sealing, I think it's kinda like FF9 again: when the souls stopped circulating the planet died. Untill every is gone there'll still be a trickle of 'water' coming through. If you plug all the holes where's the water going to go? No where, which is what the Inchoroi want. They just don't want to go to hell. They are like scared children, they just don't want to suffer. It's merely the idea of prevention, nothing in particular. Kind of like the madate's fear of the Consult or belief in God, you can't understand it but you can try your damned hardest to do something about it. (Constant recruitment by Mandate and prayer to God?)

It;s not something that I can explain easily as it seems more like something you feel rather than logically analyse.
I don't know if any of this makes sense either but w/e. I should explain what I mean about final fantasy 9 too...:

In FF9 there was a continuous cycle of souls, which was keeping the planet vibrant and alive; when the Gaians?(name check plz) started plugging the 'holes' where souls came through (the lifa tree?) the world started to wither and die. WHen all the souls were stuck dead, the gaians were going to repopulate and regrow the planet by only putting their souls in the mix.(?)

It's been a while since I played FF9 so if i'm wrong please tell me and clarify. Again, I don't know if any of this makes sense either but w/e, I'm trying ... eheheh view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 21 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Well this isn't SF, it's Epic Fantasy that strives to feel real. It is an overtly fantastic world, but it is meant to feel like real history, much in the way Tolkien attempted with the Lord of the Rings... except this is Lord of the Rings on a really twisted and scary trip so to speak <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

The FF9 comparisons are interesting, but I think that the world Bakker has given us is much, much more sophisticated and metaphysically complex. After all Scott is a philosopher as well as an author, and his world is built upon some pretty heavy philosophical ideas. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Kingmanor, Candidate

There are some FF7 similarities as well. Alien being crashes down. Originally it makes friends with pre-Man worldly inhabitants. They fall out, fight war of attrition, Alien goes back to its landing crater. Years later humans resurrect it looking for power.

After that it differs obviously. I wonder if Scott played the FF games? view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by unJon, Auditor

Quote: &quot;Entropic_existence&quot;:1g2kehpw
The FF9 comparisons are interesting, but I think that the world Bakker has given us is much, much more sophisticated and metaphysically complex. After all Scott is a philosopher as well as an author, and his world is built upon some pretty heavy philosophical ideas.[/quote:1g2kehpw]

Actually FF games are also. I don't think that the comparison necessitates an insult.

And to be fair, while PON is epic fantasy, there are SF elements to the story (space ship, void, light weapons, etc.)

Think of Star Wars. It could reasonably be classified as SF, epic fantasy, and space opera. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Quote: &quot;unJon&quot;:9b08tjxs
Quote: &quot;Entropic_existence&quot;:9b08tjxs
The FF9 comparisons are interesting, but I think that the world Bakker has given us is much, much more sophisticated and metaphysically complex. After all Scott is a philosopher as well as an author, and his world is built upon some pretty heavy philosophical ideas.[/quote:9b08tjxs]

Actually FF games are also. I don't think that the comparison necessitates an insult.

And to be fair, while PON is epic fantasy, there are SF elements to the story (space ship, void, light weapons, etc.)

Think of Star Wars. It could reasonably be classified as SF, epic fantasy, and space opera.[/quote:9b08tjxs]

Oh definitly, I completely agree, there is always alot of crossover between alot of series. I just wanted to stress that the symbology/methodology so to speak of Epic Fantasy is more at the forefront of PON as opposed to it's SF elements. And I meant no insult towards the FF comparisons (although FF was never my thing <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> ) just pointing out that they are more hmmm superficial as in, on the outside they are similar but once you delve deeper the differences appearing make them more and more different. Hmm I know that came out weird but I think you know what I mean. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Mithfânion, Didact

EE


Wracu, Sranc, etc do not have souls.


Where was this confirmed? All we know is that they are creations of the Inchoroi. We also know that in earlier days the craft of the Inchoroi was far greater than it was now. Why automatically assume they are soulless, simply because skin spies are? view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by unJon, Auditor

I'm with you EE. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by H, Auditor

Quote: &quot;Mithfânion&quot;:3odbylld
EE


Wracu, Sranc, etc do not have souls.


Where was this confirmed? All we know is that they are creations of the Inchoroi. We also know that in earlier days the craft of the Inchoroi was far greater than it was now. Why automatically assume they are soulless, simply because skin spies are?[/quote:3odbylld]

Exactly, we don't know this for a fact. And there is not enough evidence to prove one way or another. Hell, we don't even know if Skin Spies are made or born...

The only way we could get some evidence is if we knew if Sranc were born while the No-God was around. If yes, then they can't have souls. But i can't think of any example of proof that there were any born during this time, and only circumstantial evidence that perhaps they weren't... view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Entropic_existence, Moderator

I can't recollect any direct quotes, but it was definitly the impression I was under. Also, if these creations did have Souls, they would need to be killed off as well for the Consult's plan to succeed. Since the removal of souled creations to some sort of critical mass would remove the influence of the Outside.

Sranc, of the three, have always seemed to me to be completely driven by their urges as they were created, much in the same manner of the Skin-Spies, so their qualities lead me to assume that they too are soulless. Bashrag and Wracu I will admit we know too little about.

I think the basic assumption I have made, is that creations of the Tekne are inherently soulless entities. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by White Lord, Subdidact

Let me preface this by saying that I haven't yet read TTT (still waiting for it to be delivered...) but I did proofread the Glossary, so I'm not totally clueless <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> . . .

Anyway, someone asked if Sranc gave birth during the No-God's first manifestation (and I take it that the implication is that if they had souls, even they would have been barren), and I think this is answered in the entry on Sranc in the Glossary. It basically states that pregnant Sranc females were observed fighting alongside the males or something to that effect.

Now, that should answer the question of whether they could procreate or not. I don't think however that this automatically means they don't have souls. Couldn't the No-God's effect on births be selective? And what of the Scylvendi, were they also barren during the Apocalypse, and would it have made sense for them to fight for the No-God under those circumstances? Was this mentioned anywhere in TTT? view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Hmmm no nothing about the Scylvendi was mentioned in that context in TTT. I need to double check something but wasn't it mentioned somewhere that there were no live births during the Apocalypse even among animals or did I misread that? It would seem illogical (no new livestock would mean humanity would have starved after the first years of the Apocalypse) but if true would also negate Sranc giving birth as an argument for or against souls.

I've asked Scott on the Q&amp;A board about souls in regards to creations of the Tekne. I've just been under the impression, from various clues in the books, that these creations are inherently soulless. Of course Wracu do seem to have individual identities (as opposed to Sranc and possible Bashrag which don't seem tp) which could be a whole different thing. Anyway maybe Scott will clear it up a bit <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Twayleph, Auditor

wasn't it mentioned somewhere that there were no live births during the Apocalypse even among animals or did I misread that?


Actually Scott said the opposite, in answer to a query by Cynical Cat.

CC :
I was thinking about Mog-Pheru and the eleven barren years that resulted when he stocked the Earth. This is bad enough for humans, but for shorter lived animals it would have been devestating [...]


Scott :
Since the Nonmen no longer reproduce, it only affected humans. The idea has been that only the rare animal ever 'awakens' enough to develop a soul in Earwa, but that's not something I've ever explored to date.


So the implication is that only beings with souls were affected. Like White Lord said, the No-God might've made an exception on his followers - which would explain why the Scylvendi would rally to him - but somehow that strikes me as implausible. The No-God seems a force of chaos and void, hardly capable and/or willing to make such distinctions in his stillbirth-power. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Entropic_existence, Moderator

I agree Twayleph, and the Scylvendi are human and, to my mind anyway, would apply to them as well. Also, just going by the quote it implies that the creations of the Techne are Soulless, since he specifically only mentions the Non-Men as being another souled species that would have been susceptible if not for the Womb-Plague.

And thanks for finding that quote Twayleph, I think it is one of the ones I was thinking of but I wasn't quite sure in my mind which way it had gone <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> It's also the source of the rare animal awakening on Earwa, which he had not touched upon at all but is sort of the same idea as with the Mandate Skin-Spy. At least for me anyway <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by unJon, Auditor

I agree. And its great to finally have the precise wording of the most quoted Scott blurb on this board.

"only the rare animal ever 'awakens' enough to develop a soul in Earwa" view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 23 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Twayleph, Auditor

You're welcome <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> The exact link to the post is this :

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://forum.three-seas.com/viewtopic.php?t=763">http://forum.three-seas.com/viewtopic.php?t=763</a><!-- m -->

One thing EE : yes, Scott only mentioned the Nonmen as another species with a soul, but I'm not sure that's an absolute proof that they are they only other species with a soul. After all, he didn't mention the Inchoroi either, and we're pretty sure that they have souls. Of course, since only Aurang and Aurax are left, the stillbirth wouldn't have much of an effect on them anyway, but then perhaps Wracu and Bashrang can't reproduce outside of the Tekne, either.

I do believe that all creations of the Tekne, apart from that one skin-spy, are ordinarily soulless, I'm just not sure that quote alone can confirm that fact as 100% sure. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 24 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Definitly, I was more refering to it as another peice of the puzzle so to speak.
I have a feeling that Skin-Spies and Wracu can't reproduce naturally, no real proof just a feeling I got from various things in the books. Bashrag not enough info but we know Sranc can. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 28 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Inner_visions, Candidate

Quote: &quot;Entropic_existence&quot;:tvu08wbh
Oh definitly, I completely agree, there is always alot of crossover between alot of series. I just wanted to stress that the symbology/methodology so to speak of Epic Fantasy is more at the forefront of PON as opposed to it's SF elements. And I meant no insult towards the FF comparisons (although FF was never my thing <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> ) just pointing out that they are more hmmm superficial as in, on the outside they are similar but once you delve deeper the differences appearing make them more and more different. Hmm I know that came out weird but I think you know what I mean. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->[/quote:tvu08wbh]
Before I came back to the boards in January, I tried to make everything fit in an only fantasy world so it's not like I'm trying to SF it up. Since I came and have read some Q and A and yours and others posts I see that it has some SF stuff in it; I'm not exactly pleased but it's not my story either.

Anyway, In regards to the Womb-Plague here's a direct quote with link to some pertinent info:
Regarding biological warfare, the suggestion is that the Inchoroi have long ago ceased understanding their own technology. This is a function of their moribund state as well as their immortality. The idea is that they've inherited an arsenal from their past, much of it damaged, and that those genomic weapons they do get off the ground, are the result of centuries of blind tinkering, cannibalizing, and scrounging. The Womb-Plague (see the Cuno-Inchoroi Wars in TTT), for instance, is an example of an ad hoc microbial weapon.

"http://forum.three-seas.com/viewtopic.php?t=1036"
And so, granting immunity to his followers does not seem plausible since at the point when the No-God was created it wasn't a bunch of original Inchoroi scientists it was the Mangaecca who wouldn't know the intricacies(correct me if wrong). Also, how would a biological weapon selectively attack thoses with souls... this is why i dont like fantasy trying to be SF. Anyway, explanation will come forth I'm sure.

What the No-God's power always seemed to me was passive; as soon as he was 'birthed' onto Earwa then the way into Earwa from the 'Outside' was closed off from others, although it seems it was an actually plague.(again correct if wrong) E.g. babies.

And what of the Scylvendi, were they also barren during the Apocalypse, and would it have made sense for them to fight for the No-God under those circumstances? Was this mentioned anywhere in TTT?
I'd think it wouldn't matter to the Scylvendi because they were fighting FOR THEIR GOD. lawl. Anyway, that brings to mind the question of when the Scylvendi actually started to think of Mog-Pharau as their god. I dont remeber hearing anything about timeframe but maybe there was. view post


Inchoroi Origins/Aims posted 28 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by anor277, Didact

@IV, I know the Scylvendi are bad and hard. But it's hard to see them, to see anyone in fact, worshipping a God that denied fertility, that offered an inversion of the very basic human instincts. For this reason it seems likely that the No-God's holocaust was selective, i.e. it didn't effect the Scylvendi - can you imagine Cnaiür's (or equivalent) reaction when presented with a still born son? I don't know how that squares with ending the "great cycle of souls" and the Inchoroi's aims of closing the world. view post


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