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The Heron Spear posted 13 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by RaiTei, Candidate

Theories about it here: In TWP we find out that the Inchiori came from another world through space travel or something of the sort. The No-God is impossibly powerful, and his remains of a sort are in Golgoterrath. The question is, What is the Heron Spear Exactly? How can it be strong enough to kill some being so powerful? Is it not an artifact of Golgoterrath? view post


The Heron Spear posted 13 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by rycanada, Peralogue

It's some kind of Inchoroi energy weapon; it may have been able to cut through the strongest of the nonmen's magical defenses. I think it was described as killing with a beam of searing light. Remember that the Inchoroi developed the Aporos (construction of Chorae / Tears of God) around the same period. view post


The Heron Spear posted 13 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Quote: "rycanada":293khr9g
It's some kind of Inchoroi energy weapon; it may have been able to cut through the strongest of the nonmen's magical defenses. I think it was described as killing with a beam of searing light. Remember that the Inchoroi developed the Aporos (construction of Chorae / Tears of God) around the same period.[/quote:293khr9g]

The Aporos was developed earlier by a group of Non-men Quya, but it was outlawed. Eventually they found the Inchoroi interested in their work and developed the Chorae with/for the Inchoiroi/Consult.

The Heron Spear is most likely a product of the Tekne, all we know is that it is one of their weapons of "light" and appears to be some sort of energy weapon. Scott was a little ambigous wbaout this in the Q&A section and said only that particle weapons of some kind might be possible. But we don't know exactly what it was. view post


The Heron Spear posted 14 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by RaiTei, Candidate

Ah, good insight nevertheless. It was one of the Tekne Light WEapons. HOpefully more such weapons exist ^.^ view post


The Heron Spear posted 14 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by RaiTei, Candidate

From my copy of TFT: Heron Spear - A powerful artifact of the Inchoroi Tekne, so named because of it's unique Shape. The Heron Spear first appears in the Isuphiryas as Suorgil (ihrimsu, "shining Death"), the great "Spear of Light" taken by Cu'jara Cinmoi from the corpse of Sil, the Inchoroi King at the battle of Pir Pahal. FOr millennia the Heron Spear lay in the possession of the Nonmen of Ishoriol until it was stolen by Cet'ingira(Meketering) and delivered to Golgotterath. It was stolen again by Seswatha 1390 years later in 2140 who believed it to be the only weapon capable of destroying the NO-God. For a brief time it twas thought destroyed at the catastrophic Battle of Eleneot Fields, but it reappeared in 2154 in the Possession of Anaxophus V, High King of Kyraneas who used it to slay the NO-God at the Battle of Mengedda. For centuries it resided in Cenei, a treasured possession of the ASpect Emperors, only to be lost again when the Scylvendi sacked Cenei in 3351. It's whereaboiuts are presently unknown.

Hopefully I'm not to be punished for copying that from the glossary but thought it would spark discussion! view post


The Heron Spear posted 14 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by Entropic_existence, Moderator

Yea, I've read the entries <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> I have a feeling it may still be in the possession of the Scylvendi, meaning by the time of the Second Apocalypse it will likely be in the clutches of the Consult once more, as I am sure the Scylvendi will once again follow their god Lokung, the No-God. view post


The Heron Spear posted 21 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by anor277, Didact

As a gigawatt laser, at least we were able to anticipate what the Heron spear was in the earlier books; of course we didn't know that it was actually of Inchoroi manufacture. It is probably safe to assume though that it is irrevocably lost - unless of course the later novels become "standard" fantasy and a quest is made to find an all powerful whatsit when the great evil stalks the Land. view post


The Heron Spear posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by Kingmanor, Candidate

If the Heron Spear is really a light or particle weapon, wouldn't its batteries have run out long ago? view post


The Heron Spear posted 22 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by unJon, Auditor

Well the "batteries" ran out of the other weapons tekne light weapons during the Inchoroi/nonMen war. But the Heron spear worked several (thousand?) years later during the First Apocalypse. So it doesn't seem like the Tekne "batteries" run out by just sitting around, and I don't think that the Heron spear was ever used more than twice as far as we know.

So in short, we don't have any reason to think that it's out of juice. view post


The Heron Spear posted 25 February 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by Darlan Laerdon, Commoner

It always seemed like a pretty straight forward twist on a laser gun to me. Not that that's a bad thing considering the superb execution. view post


The Heron Spear posted 01 March 2006 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Heron Spear by Abyss, Commoner

Consider more broadly... 'tekne' never seems to be as simple as mere technology. The Ark/Golgotterath was suggested at least once to be a 'mothership' in truth, perhaps having given birth to the Inchoroi.

So if the ship is actually a living being, who's to say whether the Heron Spear is 'merely' a gun. Loath as i am to draw the analogy, in the Shanarra books, the Sword was never just a weapon you hit the bad guy with.

So much is left unanswered about the No-God and the Inkies, that I'm not sure the Spear's nature can be taken for granted.

- Abyss, is relatively sure it doesn't rely on truth, justice and the america way for its power source, tho'. view post


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