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Welcome! PLEASE READ! posted 15 January 2004 in WelcomesWelcome! PLEASE READ! by Wil, Head Moderator

Welcome to The Prince of Nothing Forums. Please take the time to introduce yourself to the rest of the others here. Simply press "New Topic" in this forum, put your Username in the Subject, and tell us a little about yourself (Basically, please just start a new thread). You will be able to edit this "mini-bio" at any time. Thanks! view post


Review from sff.net posted 15 January 2004 in Interviews and ReviewsReview from sff.net by Wil, Head Moderator

Victoria Strauss wrote this review on The Darkness That Comes Before:

[url:2mkqt86y]http://www.sff.net/people/victoriastrauss/ReviewDarknessthatcomes.html[/url:2mkqt86y] view post


Review from sffworld.com posted 15 January 2004 in Interviews and ReviewsReview from sffworld.com by Wil, Head Moderator

Rob H. Bedford writes this:

[url:10nkybpv]http://www.sffworld.com/authors/b/bakker_scott/sffreviews/darknesscomesbefore.html[/url:10nkybpv] view post


Site Opening posted 18 January 2004 in General AnnouncementsSite Opening by Wil, Head Moderator

The site is now open! Yay! view post


Essay by Bakker on sffworld.com posted 19 January 2004 in Interviews and ReviewsEssay by Bakker on sffworld.com by Wil, Head Moderator

This is an essay by Bakker called "Why Fantasy and Why Now?"

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Welcome! Please Read. posted 20 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; AWelcome! Please Read. by Wil, Head Moderator

Welcome to the Q &amp; A forum! Soon after this site was started, I received an e-mail from R. Scott Bakker saying that he was willing to come in and answer some questions that we all may have. Now, I don't know of many authors that are willing to do this, and I know that I am very greatful. So ask your questions here. view post


Warrior Prophet Information posted 20 January 2004 in The Warrior ProphetWarrior Prophet Information by Wil, Head Moderator

This is where I will list all the FACTS that I have on the Warrior Prophet. view post


How did you get here? posted 20 January 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionHow did you get here? by Wil, Head Moderator

I voted "other" because, well, I created this site <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> view post


How did you get here? posted 21 January 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionHow did you get here? by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Same here. view post


Construction posted 24 January 2004 in General AnnouncementsConstruction by Wil, Head Moderator

The site is currently under construction; we are re-designing the color scheme and icons etc... So any odd color things are just us! Continue posting as normal.

Also, we are re-doing all the icons, so that is why they look so tacky! view post


Language posted 25 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

On the cover of TDTCB and TWP there is what appears to be vertical sort of language. It also appears in the appendices of TDTCB. I was wondering if this was created by R. Scott Bakker and is a functional language. I figure it is, because on the jacket it says that the author is a student of languages. Anyway, just wondering if it was a working language. view post


Language posted 26 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

It's a working script (called 'keneic,' the standard script for Sheyic, which is the lingua franca of the Three Seas). David Rankine, the cover artist for the Canadian edition, actually used the script to transcribe one of the epigraphs in the book (in Sheyic), and then added some of his favourite lyrics (from a King Crimson tune, if I recall correctly). He's yet to tell me what he translated for the WP cover, though...

I do love those covers, especially for WP. I just found out that they'll be used for the US hardcover editions as well. view post


Language posted 26 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Wil, Head Moderator

Does it have it's own grammar then, different tenses? Would it be more comparable to a latin based language, or something more like English? or is it all it's own?

Also, does it have it's English letter representation? Like does "Cu'jara Cinmoi" mean somting in Keneic? view post


How did you get here? posted 27 January 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionHow did you get here? by Elfstone4Evenstar, Commoner

I followed Wil's Link!! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> view post


Language posted 27 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Just realized I never fully answered your question, Sovin! No, the languages in the book are hypothetical, without much more than a short lexicon of terms and a distinctive sound pattern. I've studied several languages, which I draw on to try to make the languages of the Three Seas as consistent as possible, but I'm certainly no JRRT! The languages are all what they call 'inflected,' however, which is to say they're more like latin than english... view post


Language posted 27 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Does each character correspond to an english letter? Or is its own alphabet, or like japanese, with a character holding meaning? If it's a literal translation, I think people might enjoy a dictionary for it. view post


How did you get here? posted 27 January 2004 in Off-Topic DiscussionHow did you get here? by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Welcome Elfstone! Which link of Wil's was it? Where did you first hear about TPoN? Also, don't forget to stop by the "Welcome" Forum and introduce yourself. view post


Language posted 27 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

It's an alphabet, though like most foreign alphabets it doesn't correspond perfectly with the english one. Once I finish all three books of PoN I hope to beat some coherent background material out of the knobby mountain of notes I've been accumulating all these years, including the various alphabets and syllabaries. I'm committed to finishing the books first though, since I know first hand how frustrating it can be waiting and waiting for sequels. I've been dying a slow death waiting for A Feast of Crows! view post


Language posted 27 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Damn, I forgot again... 'Cu'jara Cinmoi' is the name of the ancient Nonman King who waged the first wars against the Inchoroi before the coming of Men to Earwa. I know he's mentioned a couple of times in The Warrior-Prophet, but for the life of me I can't remember if he's mentioned in The Darkness... Hmm. view post


Men v. Nonmen posted 27 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; AMen v. Nonmen by Wil, Head Moderator

Alright, this has been eating at my mind for a while.

In the "Languages" thread, you said that Cu'jara Cinmoi was a Nonman king. I am still confused as to the difference between Men and Nonmen. Could you shed some light on this issue? view post


Men v. Nonmen posted 28 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; AMen v. Nonmen by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

I could...

I hate to be coy, but I there's some information I want to reveal gradually through the course of the story. Certain crucial facts regarding the Nonmen come to light toward the end of The Warrior-Prophet.

I hope this doesn't sound too cheesey, but I actually look at the story as a kind of striptease that gradually reveals the world - kind of like Gene Wolfe, though not so cryptic (or brilliant).

I can recap and clarify the info that's been given so far: the Nonmen are an ancient race, the 'original people' of Earwa, who are nearly immortal, and who fought both for and against the No-God during the Apocalypse. They are slowly going insane: their minds can only hold roughly four or five human lifetimes of experiences, and as the centuries pass the traumatic experiences they suffer crowd out their other memories, until now, almost all Nonmen remember only the pain and loss in their lives. And some, like the Nonman (Mekertrig) that Kellhus meets in the Prologue, have taken to creating traumatic experiences just so they can have something to remember... view post


Men v. Nonmen posted 29 January 2004 in Author Q &amp; AMen v. Nonmen by Wil, Head Moderator

Thanks for the re-cap, it helped a lot!

I understand perfectly that you don't want to reveal anything too soon. It is the one flaw with this process. Please feel free at anytime to give us a nice RAFO (Read and find out). After all, we're just glad that you stop by. view post


Release Dates posted 01 February 2004 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeRelease Dates by Wil, Head Moderator

The Darkness that Comes Beofre will be released:


In the US: June 1

In the UK: March 1 view post


Release Dates posted 01 February 2004 in The Warrior ProphetRelease Dates by Wil, Head Moderator

The Warrior Prophet will be released:

In Canada: April 21

In the UK: November 1

In the US: June 1, 2005 view post


Question to R.S. regarding release dates. posted 01 February 2004 in Author Q &amp; AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

Greetings one and all!

First, I must say I'm happy to see that this series has it's own forum at last, nice to be here at the beginning since I expect this series to become truly major once the UK and US releases have commenced, possibly even Erikson/Martin/Hobb scale. And tres cool that the author is posting here!

Anyway, I have two or three pressing questions regarding the release dates.

First and foremost, The Warrior Prophet. The April 27th release date that your website mentions, is that still correct? It seems not to be, because both Penguin.ca and amazon.ca now have a Mid-June release date. Some clarification here would be great. Also, I'm very curious about the size of WP. Same size as TDTCB?

secondly, what is the title of the third book and when in 2005 will it be released? Have you seen the cover art for that one yet ( more specifically, what colour is it?)

Thirdly, will the trade paperback of "The Darkness that comes before" go out of print once the small mass market paperback is released in April this year?

I'd really appreciate answers to these questions <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


Language posted 02 February 2004 in Author Q &amp; ALanguage by Mithfânion, Didact

Ah, good taste is always a good sign in an author. Here's another lost soul who's been slowly wasting away waiting for Feast for Crows. As for Tolkien, what he did with languages is just Über-intelligent, I'm so big a fan of his that I've even read The History of Middle-earth series. view post


Question to R.S. regarding release dates. posted 02 February 2004 in Author Q &amp; AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Wil, Head Moderator

Welcome Mith! Glad that you could come to our site! We are ever eager for new members.

I know I am not the author, (Rest assured, he does stop by here almost everday) but if you don't mind, I will answer the questions that I know.

I recently asked Scott as to the release of the Warrior Prophet. He was suprised when he learned that the date had changed on the Penguin website, and he assured me that he would get to the bottom of this hopefully by tomorrow.

As to the title of the third book, I beleive that The Thousandfold Thought, is at the top of the title list.

Again, welcome to the site and I would encourage you to go and introduce yourself in the "Welcome" forum! view post


Fantasy posted 02 February 2004 in Literature DiscussionFantasy by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

I've been a GRRM fan since reading "Sand-Kings" in grade 7. But he's had a special place on my shelf ever since reading aGoT made me realize that complex, demented, and thoroughly unsanitized epic fantasy was possible to publish. Until then, I never even thought of submitting TDTCB.

And I hear you on Tolkien. He may not be the first to have introduced Fantasy to the world, but he's the first, and perhaps the only, to truly have introduced it to Epic. It all comes to the languages. view post


Question to R.S. regarding release dates. posted 02 February 2004 in Author Q &amp; AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Hi Mithfanion. Thanks for the kind words! As far as the release dates go, all I can say is 'you know you're a small fry when...' As far as I know TWP will heft in a little bigger than TDTCB - big enough to be useful in a potentially life-threatening situation. For the title for Bk III, I've been debating between When Sorcerers Sing and, as Wil mentions, The Thousandfold Thought. If I'm tending to TTT rather than WSS it's because of When Dragons Rage.

I'm not sure about the tpbk of TDTCB - I certainly hope they keep it in print. Otherwise, Overlook is using the same cover design for the US release. The colours we've discussed for Bk III are in the orbit of red, but we have no mock ups of it as yet. I think I'd have to be pretty lucky to have it look as cool as TWP.

If any of this changes, I'm sure you'll know before me! view post


Touring posted 02 February 2004 in Author Q &amp; ATouring by Wil, Head Moderator

Are you going to be doing any touring for the WP release? how bout the US or UK release of TDTCB.

If so, is there any chance we could convince you to come to Washington? view post


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