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The metaphysics of Eärwa - some thoughts posted 11 November 2008 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe metaphysics of Eärwa - some thoughts by Curethan, Didact

Quote: "Thorsten":lj8jh4mw
anor277:

Curethan:

Thorsten, can you tell me the greek root for daimos?


That would be another word difficult to translate

δαίμων - god, goddess, the power controlling the destiny of individual, lot, fortune, soul of men of the golden age, departed souls, spiritual or semi-divine being, evil spirit, demon, the Good Genius

Anyway, it denotes some kind of spiritual being. You can have a go using the [url=http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/resolveform:lj8jh4mw]Perseus search engine[/url:lj8jh4mw] - it seems to include all of classical Greek.

The demons are credited with some PoV narrative indicating they are sentient, perhaps ensoulled, i dont know. Thats a much larger result than long distance communication, compulsion, illusion or even destruction in relation to Thorsten's systematic analysis of the four major subsets.


Yes and no. The sorcerer isn't responsible for the sentience. All he does is use what is already there, so summoning and using a demon is conceptually rather a cant of transposition (which in this case is easier than the one used by Kellhus because one end refers to the Outside which is more changeable) and a cant of compulsion. You wouldn't credit sorcery for the fact that Esmenet has a soul while under compulsion either.[/quote:lj8jh4mw]

I feel that bringing an active part of the outside to manifestation (against its will, mind) is indeed a huge exertion of meaning. I realize the sorcerer is probably not the source of the actions, and therefore not the source of the summoned being's power. This isn't really my point. The whole metaphysics of summoning such a being - bringing it almost completely to the real world really does seem akin to your description of what the no-god is... The murky origins of chanv and Elazareus (a user) being the summoner indicate to me that the may be a link between the daimos and the manifestation of the consult's god.

The description of Aurax (i think?) near the end of TTT is pretty damn classic demon and when Aurang rapes Esme too. Initially the Inchoroi were described as very alien - now they appear as humanoid demonic creatures... hmm getting of topic now.

Thanks for looking up the definition and the link btw <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> view post


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